The CVT that Proton installed in Saga FLX is made by Punch Powertrain.. A German company.. Punch VT2 model to be exact. The same model used in Kias (I assume the Forte).

I thank u for ur praises..

Ur dilemma here is, since u're such a big fan of Persona, why bother waiting? I'm sure u love the Persona not only the name, but the car in general. The only problem is, when the Persona R comes out, will u still like it? Maybe the shape doesnt appeal that much to u. But at the same time u should think whether u'll regret buying the Persona now, because if the Persona R is released in the future there'll be a high possibility of it being turbocharged with CVT.

What I suggest to u is, take ur time, sit down & think. Try to think of other alternatives as well. When the Persona R is released, go & be the first to look at it. If u dun like it, u can always still buy PE (ask for remaining stock), and who knows u probably will be able to get a huge discount for it. Just like how when I was buying PE I was considering Waja as well, but because there was a rumour that Waja will be replaced by Inspira, I held back. Then suddenly news came in that the Inspira will be priced at 80k or so. Then I gave up & went for PE instead, because it's slightly cheaper than Waja. After the Inspira came out, Waja price dropped due to Proton clearing their stock from their warehouse, the Waja CPS 1.6 price went as low as RM 44k for a new one.

The choice is up to u, but if I were u I'd wait & see. Who knows, Proton might come out with a final facelift for the PE with CVT before launching the Persona R.


@Zeng,

Today few weird shits (some of them quite good) happened to me.

1. Woke up in the morning, went outside my house, saw that there's a film shooting outside. None of the actors/actresses were appealing to me, so I just went on & continued my day.

2. Teaching a student today, he was my last student. He did almost the entire exercise wrongly, so I had to ask him to do corrections to see how much he understand the question. He did the correction once, & did it wrong again. Then when I was about to teach him how to do it, angin tarak ribut tarak suddenly he just started crying. Sit there, wouldnt say a thing, wouldnt do anything I said. So I had to let him go back.

3. Came back just now, the film shooting is still going on, but this time because it's dark, they used those big spotlights to illuminate the entire area near the guardhouse. At first I thought there's nothing interesting to see, then as I drove past the guardhouse slowly (there was a roadbump), I saw one of the NL actress behind the guardhouse. Bloody pretty, hot & cute wei!!! In that baju kurung.. Omg..

Ok sekian terima kasih.

This post has been edited by xandras: Jul 28 2011, 11:22 PM

You see, now you should understand why Honda NHC switch from CVT to Auto tranny although CVT is technically superior vs the current NHC auto tranny. Targetted young ppl market.

If wanted to take family all the time, is Persona R suitable? It might be tuned to be more sporty, suitable for family?

Well.. Just because it's coming with a turbocharged engine doesnt mean it wouldn't be suitable for family rite? I think almost any 4 door sedan would be a good family car. I still think the Persona R will be a family oriented car.. I think. Persona is a good value for money for small families. If Proton is stupid enough to not see this, I wont be surprised if they go bankrupt by 2013. But then, there's always the G-factor, no?

KNS!!! just now on the way back home there's this f**k up saga. mod his lights and stuff with rim wanna come mess with me. out of no where keep sudden break. maleh. i tl straight horn him kaw kaw then lap him. nowdays penang driver getting more and more f**k up dy.

I can honestly tell u I bullied many penang drivers over the 4 days I stayed there. Damn beh tahan them. On the way there before Juru toll I already can sense the 'Penangness' in the drivers on the highway. Drive at 80 hog the fast lane. Then 1 stupid bus drive at 70 hog fast lane. A Cayenne tak boleh tahan potong using inside lane, I also follow

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Added on July 28, 2011, 11:43 pmBut what I don't understand is, why would they give the CVT to such a small car? I think the Accord would benefit more from it though.

This post has been edited by xandras: Jul 28 2011, 11:43 PM

damn man. i feel ashamed to be a penangites because of their idiotic attitude which they love to do silly stuff on the road. that bloody saga want me to bang him meh? make me sudden emergency brake wasting my brake pad and tyre rubber. o0o. thank god my abs and ebd kick in just in time if not GG already my car and by now i should be there fighting with that guy.

missed out lotsa things.... what care are u drivingg now xan?

dog bitten iswara. lol

Chillax.. I finally had a conclusion as to why Penang drivers drive that way.. It's because of where they learned how to drive & where they took their driving license..

My uncle's PE

A reputation of being the first to offer leading technologies for very affordable car beating out previous record owner...Honda City at least in Malaysia.

Probably also wanted Saga to be the leading FC saving car...since they don't have mass market hybrid yet. So this is the best it can do. If they are truly using a time-tested CVT that was used by Forte (I doubt so, might be a lower scale version), I guess, it might work after all. Now only see if they can smoothly mate it reliably with campro iafm...

haha. want to chill also cannot. think back also i feel like throwing stone at him already. not all of the penangites lor. only certain one that paid to get a pass without really passing the result. dang. not you iswara meh? xP

Is a belgium company... germans are more towards DCT ... (judging from VW)

I tot forte uses the normal 6 speed AT only?

Nah, it's the VT2 for both Saga & Forte. VT3 is for cars with higher power, VT4 is for 4WD cars.. Punch's product lineup only consist of these 3 models..

But after viewing the chart, Saga FC & PE not much difference also at 120 KM/h.. Compared to my PE, that is.. Mine still doing roughly 7.8L/100 KMs.. Saga doing 7.9..

No lah.. Now it's either the PE or M3.. Iswara never start for 2 weeks d xD

haha. aiseh. upgrade back to PE already. so can TT with a real PE now.

Eh? Belgian ka? Whatever la.. Belgian & German they both sounds the same to me xD Ok lah, EUROPEAN country..

Forte 2.0 uses 6-speed auto. Forte 1.6 is available in 5 speed manual, 4 speed auto and CVT.

Mmm...come to think abt it...ya lor..forte using AT.

Wondering tho abt the reliability even after initial review by Paul Tan. Seems ok but did you notice, there's a whole lot of cheongster in Sagas and Myvis. The smaller the cars, the more they like to cheong to make up for the size difference...in real life, CVT tranny does not like these type of abuse......can the ppl who buy Sagas appreciate these tranny. I do know those uncle and aunties drivers sure do but the cheongster might kill the gear box within a year or 2...

dog bitten iswara apa tu

ask him to explain to you. xD

Iswara that has been bitten by a dog...honest..

lol why must dog... xan mind explain to a newbie = me?