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post Jul 14 2011, 11:11 PM, updated 14y ago

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Hi, this has always been a popular discussion.

I saw nice Hansgrohe taps at the Archidex but price is quite hefty. Do you guys think its worth the value?

I must say Hansa has interesting design, but very little is known about them.

Grohe seems reputable but design seems a bit on 'the rough' side. Does not look as 'refined' as the Hansas and Hansgrohe.




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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 14 2011, 11:11 PM)
Hi, this has always been a popular discussion.

I saw nice Hansgrohe taps at the Archidex but price is quite hefty. Do you guys think its worth the value?

I must say Hansa has interesting design, but very little is known about them.

Grohe seems reputable but design seems a bit on 'the rough' side. Does not look as 'refined' as the Hansas and Hansgrohe.
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why not SORENTO? The design is good, price is affordable and it comes with 5 years warranty for the cartridge.
www.sorento.com.my

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post Jul 14 2011, 11:40 PM

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I like the old Grohe as they were solid and made in Germany. I have one which is so heavy and well built that you know that it will last a lifetime Now a lot of Grohes are made in Thailand and still carry hefty price tag. Hansgrohe looks not bad. However when I shopped for my kitchen taps, I settled for Blanco since I got my Blanco sinks. Moreover, for taps I was looking for design rather than the brand I think Grohe is overpriced and not as sleek.

If you want to pay for expensive faucets, Moen is another choice.
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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 14 2011, 11:40 PM)
I like the old Grohe as they were solid and made in Germany. I have one which is so heavy and well built that you know that it will last a lifetime  Now a lot of Grohes are made in Thailand and still carry hefty price tag. Hansgrohe looks not bad.  However when I shopped for my kitchen taps, I settled for Blanco since I got my Blanco sinks. Moreover, for taps I was looking for design rather than the brand  I think Grohe is overpriced and not as sleek.

If you want to pay for expensive faucets, Moen is another choice.
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exactly my point

the old ones are solidly built and you pay for something that's made in their native country

most manufacturers relocate to china and still charge exorbitant prices



try to go for the ones manufactured in their own country

i'm not saying china / thailand has quality issues, but imagine this: would you want to pay RM3k for a genuine LV handbag that was hand made in china?
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:33 AM

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This is an interesting arguement though. We know iPhone is made in China and people are still buying them like crazy. Sooner or later, made in China may be just as prestigious as made in other developed countries. Some of you may remember that Made in Japan used to be percieved as bad quality and we were looking for Milo label on the Toyota metal body!

For the time being, I still like Porsche made in Germany; Bottega Veneta made in Italy; Patek to be Swiss made and kimchi from Korea! biggrin.gif


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post Jul 15 2011, 08:46 PM

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The main point is which brand gives you better performance (water flow design/pressure) and durability.

If there is a difference then, you judge if it is worth it.

If based on my perception,
Hans Grohe seems to be Classier,
Grohe seems to be clunckier,
Hansa - dunno tongue.gif

If there is a brand with design that gives better feel water "feel" and solid durability, I dont care if it is from india, I also buy. rclxm9.gif

Psst :- when I say "feel", I mean that the shower must give me orgasm drool.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 08:54 PM

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Just make sure that you got the right type of taps for the right part of the house. We don't want to see you having orgasm in the kitchen!
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post Jul 15 2011, 09:13 PM

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Well, their quality drop too.
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post Jul 15 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 15 2011, 09:13 PM)
Well, their quality drop too.
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Whose quality dropped too?
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post Jul 15 2011, 11:15 PM

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have a look at kwc also wink.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 11:38 PM

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With due respect Sorento is not comparable I thought.
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post Jul 16 2011, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 15 2011, 10:46 PM)
Whose quality dropped too?
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Grohes compare to many years back.

The other too, according to my plumber.
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post Jul 17 2011, 09:49 AM

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I went through the same choices when shopping for faucets and tap fittings for my house. The 2 biggest influencers were design and quality.

Design is very individual and quite subjective. All the major Euro brands have a range of designs, some nice and some not so nice. Just depends whether the design you like falls into a higher or lower price range.

As for quality, yeah many people say it's not as good as before. But really how do you tell quality and how much quality is needed for a tap anyway? From my reading it seems the cartridge is the most important part since that is the one with most wear and tear. Most use ceramics nowadays but I think quality can still vary.

The rest like the body and handle are just pieces of cast brass (I think) with the nice shiny chrome plating on it. As long as the pieces are well finished and plating is heavy and durable, I think these parts should last a lifetime.

I was quite fussy about the smoothness of the action. I did try Grohe, Hansgrohe, Hansa and Zucchetti. I felt Grohe and Hansgrohe were the smoothest.

Some of these are still made in the home country. The Hansa I saw were still made in Germany and the Zucchetti made in Italy. As for Grohe, not clearly stated in the box but yes I now about their plant in Thailand. A number of their shower sets are from Germany though. Not sure about Hansgrohe.

Note: retail prices for these are exorbitant in Malaysia. Buy them during the sale. Flowline (which carries Grohe) has 50% sales every year I think.

In case you're wondering in the end I settled on Grohe. Bought most from Flowline during sale. A few other pieces which Flowline didn't have I imported direct from Germany (via ebay.de). The Grohes I got are still heavy and feel very substantial. I don't have any old models to compare to though.

And for the wet kitchen and laundry sinks I got Fiore (made in Italy). These are carried by Bina Warehouse (same fellas who do Hansgrohe).

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Do you'll notice now this brand don't give spare ceramic cartridge anymore. I remember buying one many years back online it give me two spare. Sometime getting the exact replacement will be hard.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 17 2011, 10:12 AM)
Do you'll notice now this brand don't give spare ceramic cartridge anymore. I remember buying one many years back online it give me two spare. Sometime getting the exact replacement will be hard.
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Yeah, I didn't get any spare cartridges. Maybe I should buy a few to keep.
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post Jul 20 2011, 09:18 PM

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In the end, went for Hansgrohe. You are right, Hansgrohe also have Made in China and Germany models. Hence, need to know which models come from where.

As for me, I got the Talis E (guest bath), Metris S(all other bathrooms)and Puravida (master bath). Hopefully, I made the right choice.
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 20 2011, 09:18 PM)
In the end, went for Hansgrohe. You are right, Hansgrohe also have Made in China and Germany models. Hence, need to know which models come from where.

As for me, I got the Talis E (guest bath), Metris S(all other bathrooms)and Puravida (master bath). Hopefully, I made the right choice.
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how much was the overall expenses?
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post Jul 21 2011, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 20 2011, 10:28 PM)
how much was the overall expenses?
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Talis E2 was slightly below RM700

Metris S is around RM900+

Puravida was way more expensive hence I got it from Spore at around RM1.4K
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 21 2011, 11:59 AM)
Talis E2 was slightly below RM700

Metris S is around RM900+

Puravida was way more expensive hence I got it from Spore at around RM1.4K
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Congrats on the purchase. Did they tell you which model was from China and which from Germany?
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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 21 2011, 11:59 AM)
Talis E2 was slightly below RM700

Metris S is around RM900+

Puravida was way more expensive hence I got it from Spore at around RM1.4K
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toffeeman must be multi millionaire who building his own mansion tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jul 22 2011, 11:18 PM)
toffeeman must be multi millionaire who building his own mansion tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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not necessarily

these plumbing fixtures, if bought correctly can spruce up the toilet - u use it every day, why not pamper yourself? it's your own home anyway, and u r gonna stay in it for quite some time

plus, these fixtures may even last for years. and this would save you time / money for replacements, repairs or worse damages caused by leaking faucets

just my 2 sens
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jul 23 2011, 01:12 PM)
not necessarily

these plumbing fixtures, if bought correctly can spruce up the toilet - u use it every day, why not pamper yourself? it's your own home anyway, and u r gonna stay in it for quite some time

plus, these fixtures may even last for years. and this would save you time / money for replacements, repairs or worse damages caused by leaking faucets

just my 2 sens
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Spot on......no need to be multi millionaire to buy these stuffs. Those big shots would be looking for gold plated taps. What I was looking for is something that has a design that can stand the test of time and more importantly durable and reliable......hence Hansgrohe was the final choice.

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QUOTE(toffeeman @ Jul 24 2011, 09:17 AM)
Spot on......no need to be multi millionaire to buy these stuffs. Those big shots would be looking for gold plated taps. What I was looking for is something that has a design that can stand the test of time and more importantly durable and reliable......hence Hansgrohe was the final choice.
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My thoughts exactly. biggrin.gif

Planning to get Hans Grohe too later . . . unless there is a proven cheaper brand.. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on July 29, 2011, 9:39 pm
There is a sale going on in Bina Warehouse now. Rain Dance shower heads cost a bomb. Is there any truth to the hype Hansgrohe Raindance shower heads shower "feels" better? blink.gif

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Come to [COLOR=blue]LIVING BATHROOMS, 213, Jalan Maarof, Bangsar Showroom for HANSGROHE (TRUE RAINDANCE SHOWERS) and experience the Air Injection on the showers. We offer very competitive price and good after sales service to all our clients. Showroom opens from 9am-6pm, mon-sat. 03-20939555

see you soon.
Thank you.

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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jul 24 2011, 11:07 AM)
My thoughts exactly.  biggrin.gif

Planning to get Hans Grohe too later . . . unless there is a proven cheaper brand.. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on July 29, 2011, 9:39 pm
There is a sale going on in Bina Warehouse now. Rain Dance shower heads cost a bomb. Is there any truth to the hype Hansgrohe Raindance shower heads shower "feels" better?  blink.gif
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I will be using a mix of Hansgrohe and Grohe for the taps and in-wall shower mixers for my house. Bought these items over the last 1 year as and when sales were on. Hahahahaha... want to get the best price possible.

Based on my friends experience, using cheaper taps after use for 1-2 years, generally experience leaking and it can be quite a hassle. He ended up changing all his taps after one after the other started leaking and his advice to me was... don't try to save so much and end up having headache later. So i went with the brands above, Hansgrohe for my master bedroom toilet and Grohe for the rest.

Hopefully (fingers crossed), that these taps work well for many years to come. smile.gif

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if you into higher end range, u can really ahve a look at kohler, blanco, franke and Kwc
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QUOTE(alphayou @ Nov 21 2011, 11:52 AM)
if you into higher end range, u can really ahve a look at kohler, blanco, franke and Kwc
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Kohler... didn't like their taps design. Love the quality of the Franke kitchen sink and its design.
But have not seen the Blanco and Kwc stuff though so can't really comment on them.

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i highly recommend this website

www.livingbathrooms.com.my

good customer sales and service.

drop by one of their showrooms to experience bathrooms concept like

never before.

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QUOTE(LawrenZza @ Feb 18 2012, 12:22 PM)
i highly recommend this website

www.livingbathrooms.com.my

good customer sales and service.

drop by one of their showrooms to experience bathrooms concept like

never before.
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Dude... Stop spamming here. Hard selling us a company or website obviously shows that you're either affiliated or possibly a salesman from there.


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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 14 2011, 11:40 PM)
I like the old Grohe as they were solid and made in Germany. I have one which is so heavy and well built that you know that it will last a lifetime  Now a lot of Grohes are made in Thailand and still carry hefty price tag. Hansgrohe looks not bad.  However when I shopped for my kitchen taps, I settled for Blanco since I got my Blanco sinks. Moreover, for taps I was looking for design rather than the brand  I think Grohe is overpriced and not as sleek.

If you want to pay for expensive faucets, Moen is another choice.
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Grohe made in Thailand????? Are u sure?????? It is made in Germany bang.
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Kohler is crap. I got one in my powder room. Hardly use and it's getting rusty. Even when it was new the aerator didn't work

Also got hansgrohe which is better than grohe but guess what? I got a kitchen pull out tap from hansgrohe, got one part the chrome flake off already. But still this is the best brand.

As for grohe we bought some toilet stuff like toilet roll holder, towel bar etc.....getting corroded

IMHO all are crap these days and not worth spending a few Ks for branded.
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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Feb 18 2012, 02:01 PM)
Dude... Stop spamming here. Hard selling us a company or website obviously shows that you're either affiliated or possibly a salesman from there.
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Also got hansgrohe which is better than grohe but guess what? I got a kitchen pull out tap from hansgrohe, got one part the chrome flake off already. But still this is the best brand.

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Hmm...your hansgrohe origin from where???

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does anyone know how much price for euphoria hand shower range

http://www.grohe.co.uk/p/25_103399.html#&#...1)),t(t(g(af)))

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Hmm...your hansgrohe origin from where???
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I bought it from bina warehouse. Not sure made in where now

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QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Feb 19 2012, 03:59 AM)
does anyone know how much price for euphoria hand shower range

http://www.grohe.co.uk/p/25_103399.html#&#...1)),t(t(g(af)))

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I got mine at Bina Warehouse during their sale. But I saw another shop at Kepong near Classic Hi Light that carries Hasgrohe too. Haven't had the time to check them out though.
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anyone got experience using Toto?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 19 2012, 11:48 AM)
anyone got experience using Toto?
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If I'm not mistaken, I've seen it used in KLIA and some 5-star hotels.
Proven and established brand.
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anybody can highlight some good Rainshower? Wish to install one to replace my old showerhead, now using a normal one, with a mix hot/cold system attached to a heater tank. The water pressure is a bit low though, so dare not buy new showerhead, in case cannot use.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Feb 19 2012, 11:48 AM)
anyone got experience using Toto?
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I'm using a Toto rain shower head. It's not bad and costs cheaper than some of the brands I surveyed in the past.

But I find their designs pretty normal looking. An interesting brand would be Premtex which is owned by Koon Hoe. Some very interesting designs, and they are the brand and QC owners. Their products are manufactured in China according to their own QC. A potential to check out.
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Nowadays everything is made in china (at the very least around asia). icon_idea.gif
You ask these guys where their product is from, they will say from European countries.
The above are both right if
- the factory in china send them to the european country distribution center before coming here. tongue.gif
the branded product travel very far lor... thumbup.gif

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just trying to share some knowledge with you guys, i'm working in the construction industry.

LOL, some forumers are so sensitive or rude, which in many case could be avoided.

sorry if i've offended anyone.
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QUOTE(LawrenZza @ Feb 20 2012, 12:30 AM)
just trying to share some knowledge with you guys, i'm working in the construction industry.

LOL, some forumers are so sensitive or rude, which in many case could be avoided.

sorry if i've offended anyone.
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Just add more details on why you're recommending them, whats the benefit to forumers and tell us your experience. And if you're working there or have a specific contact for us to get in touch with why not recommend outright, better for forumers to get in touch with that person for discounts and deals, no?

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Heck we all love a good deal. nod.gif
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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 15 2011, 12:40 AM)
I like the old Grohe as they were solid and made in Germany. I have one which is so heavy and well built that you know that it will last a lifetime  Now a lot of Grohes are made in Thailand and still carry hefty price tag. Hansgrohe looks not bad.  However when I shopped for my kitchen taps, I settled for Blanco since I got my Blanco sinks. Moreover, for taps I was looking for design rather than the brand  I think Grohe is overpriced and not as sleek.

If you want to pay for expensive faucets, Moen is another choice.
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My dad says Hansgrohe and grohe is the same (worked for MahSing once upon a time)..The original company is Hansgrohe by a German named Hans Grohe...His son who took over the company sold it to Americans and called it Grohe (cannot use same name)..Same technology but focuses on different market.

Hansgrohe's business focuses on showers while Grohe is in the mixer. The current descendant of the Grohe family sold it again to his own side of the family..(meaning not the original Hans side of the family). Anyway, my uncle (hardware shop owner) said for showers and taps go for hansgrohe.

But I'm not getting either Hans Grohe or Grohe...so expensive...I'm just buying from my uncle...similar to hansgrohe..same spec, just not willing to pay for brand sake...just my two cents

On the 'where it is made' there are many brands out there from europe and US but technically made in China/thailand...labour cost is cheaper so profit margin is also higher but uses same technology, the difference is in the quality control in the manufacturing plant (thailand or china)..just like iphone


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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Feb 20 2012, 12:46 PM)
My dad says Hansgrohe and grohe is the same (worked for MahSing once upon a time)..The original company is Hansgrohe by a German named Hans Grohe...His son who took over the company sold it to Americans and called it Grohe (cannot use same name)..Same technology but focuses on different market.

Hansgrohe's business focuses on showers while Grohe is in the mixer. The current descendant of the Grohe family sold it again to his own side of the family..(meaning not the original Hans side of the family). Anyway, my uncle (hardware shop owner) said for showers and taps go for hansgrohe.

But I'm not getting either Hans Grohe or Grohe...so expensive...I'm just buying from my uncle...similar to hansgrohe..same spec, just not willing to pay for brand sake...just my two cents

On the 'where it is made' there are many brands out there from europe and US but technically made in China/thailand...labour cost is cheaper so profit margin is also higher but uses same technology, the difference is in the quality control in the manufacturing plant (thailand or china)..just like iphone
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Yar... Most items these days manufactured in china. But not all I would think are of poor quality.
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QUOTE(adrianjc @ Feb 20 2012, 11:06 AM)
Just add more details on why you're recommending them, whats the benefit to forumers and tell us your experience. And if you're working there or have a specific contact for us to get in touch with why not recommend outright, better for forumers to get in touch with that person for discounts and deals, no?

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Heck we all love a good deal.  nod.gif
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as you all know the rainshower, Hansgrohe was the first one to make them, and they have patent its technology, which makes it best in the market.

You should look for Shelrine/Cecilia at livingbathrooms@gmail.com to get the best deals.
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QUOTE(LawrenZza @ Feb 20 2012, 02:10 PM)
as you all know the rainshower, Hansgrohe was the first one to make them, and they have patent its technology, which makes it best in the market.

You should look for Shelrine/Cecilia at livingbathrooms@gmail.com to get the best deals.
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My friend is using Hansgrohe rain shower and he says it's the best he's used ever. Water drops are gentle and doesn't splash everywhere.
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QUOTE(craftsnknots @ Feb 20 2012, 12:46 PM)
My dad says Hansgrohe and grohe is the same (worked for MahSing once upon a time)..The original company is Hansgrohe by a German named Hans Grohe...His son who took over the company sold it to Americans and called it Grohe (cannot use same name)..Same technology but focuses on different market.

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I have used the father, son and now China/Thailand made taps.
Over the course of 40 years, I learn that no point buying expensive taps. Worse if spare parts is in Germany or they dun have any more spare parts! There goes my RM1XXX water faucet doh.gif

Buy the best durable & functional ones like easy to close with no drips, water saving features or soothing champagne flow.
Brass is the material of choice for good taps.
Before buying good tap, just ask about the availability of replacement value, its cost and difficulty in changing it.
These days most good taps have a limited working life of 10 to 15 yrs depending on how rough or how well you take care of them. Gone are the days when taps last 30 to 50 yrs. sad.gif

Ensure the incoming water to your household is clean and free from lime to reduce calcium or other deposit from building up in the water system.
You can't get 100% lime free water, at least you can minimize the deposits from damaging the valves or clogging the pipes.

BTW some China water faucet manufacturer do have standards & high quality control...just like iPhone laugh.gif
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Yar... Most items these days manufactured in china. But not all I would think are of poor quality.
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True. My kitchen tap cost rm300 made in china never drip before for using more than 12yrs. The most frequent tap use in my home.
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That's why I say, regardless of where it is made, if they use the same technology its fine. China product comes in different grade too..there's high & low too..

Love a good shower! It makes all the difference especially after a hard days work
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My friend is using Hansgrohe rain shower and he says it's the best he's used ever. Water drops are gentle and doesn't splash everywhere.
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It's true, you can come to the showroom and experience it live. feel the effect of rain shower technology (water+air technology) and also the massage mode to believe it.

to be honest, for the normal range which is good enough for many, it isn't that costly less than 1k, which you will utilize it daily, i don't think it's that expensive. only the designer series, where designer comes into play to cater different preferential design that suit specific high end taste. have the perception of long term usage and satisfaction, it's worth while investing in one.

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It's true, you can come to the showroom and experience it live. feel the effect of rain shower technology (water+air technology) and also the massage mode to believe it.

to be honest, for the normal range which is good enough for many, it isn't that costly less than 1k, which you will utilize it daily, i don't think it's that expensive. only the designer series, where designer comes into play to cater different preferential design that suit specific high end taste. have the perception of long term usage and satisfaction, it's worth will investing in one.
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So can I try bath at your showroom to try out the rain shower? But not " live " lah. tongue.gif
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So can I try bath at your showroom to try out the rain shower? But not " live " lah.  tongue.gif
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When I was looking for rainshower, my focus was on Hans Grohe Rainshower but it just cost too darn much. blink.gif
zheilwane advised me to consider alternative.
Settled for Sorento, best decision I ever made . thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
Savings approx 80%
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Went to Hafele in Glennarie today and had a chat with the MD. They actually have a reasonable range of showers.

Didn't ask the price though, was there to discuss something else.
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rainshower no need to buy Hansgrohe cause not much design in it. if you want to buy a nice design tap then get hansgrohe Axor range by Starck. really sui

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When I was looking for rainshower, my focus was on Hans Grohe Rainshower but it just cost too darn much.  blink.gif
zheilwane advised me to consider alternative.
Settled for Sorento, best decision I ever made .  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
Savings approx 80%
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What is the price u got, n which model?
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rainshower no need to buy Hansgrohe cause not much design in it. if you want to buy a nice design tap then get hansgrohe Axor range by Starck. really sui
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Gulp indeed. A couple of thousand ringgit
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Go ask zheilwane lah... tongue.gif
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no need to ask him lar, he'll always tell u go to his shop one tongue.gif

actually i already got the hansgrohe rain shower & enjoy it everyday tongue.gif just want to know if i got potong kao kao by Binx WxxH.... or not doh.gif

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no need to ask him lar, he'll always tell u go to his shop one tongue.gif

actually i already got the hansgrohe rain shower & enjoy it everyday tongue.gif  just want to know if i got potong kao kao by Binx WxxH.... or not doh.gif
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Hi may I know what is the difference of hansgrohe raindance shower head compare to other china made shower head? The quality should be better but how about the 'feeling' of using it? Can u actually feel the difference?

I am currently looking for a shower set, is deciding between hansgrohe, toto, cotto and those china made one.

By the way, is thermostat useful? I am just worry this extra feature will make the shower set more complicate and prone to damage.

Sorry if I ask stupid question. Newbie. Lol.
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Hi may I know what is the difference of hansgrohe raindance shower head compare to other china made shower head? The quality should be better but how about the 'feeling' of using it? Can u actually feel the difference?

I am currently looking for a shower set, is deciding between hansgrohe, toto, cotto and those china made one.

By the way, is thermostat useful? I am just worry this extra feature will make the shower set more complicate and prone to damage.

Sorry if I ask stupid question. Newbie. Lol.
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Yup, the Hansgrohe rain shower feels a great deal softer than other showers I've tried. The water doesn't splash as much either. The water just rolls down your skin, literally.
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Thanks adrianjc, guess I will go ahead with hansgrohe. Hehe

The shop is quoting me SGD1300 for this. Is the price ok? It comes with thermostat.
http://bathroomstudio.co.uk/hansgrohe/show.../prod_6796.html



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Hi may I know what is the difference of hansgrohe raindance shower head compare to other china made shower head? The quality should be better but how about the 'feeling' of using it? Can u actually feel the difference?

I am currently looking for a shower set, is deciding between hansgrohe, toto, cotto and those china made one.

By the way, is thermostat useful? I am just worry this extra feature will make the shower set more complicate and prone to damage.

Sorry if I ask stupid question. Newbie. Lol.
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the water flow from hand/rain shower is soft, mine don't have the thermostat function....

QUOTE(lss43 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:52 PM)
Thanks adrianjc, guess I will go ahead with hansgrohe. Hehe

The shop is quoting me SGD1300 for this. Is the price ok? It comes with thermostat.
http://bathroomstudio.co.uk/hansgrohe/show.../prod_6796.html
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the price is about there, my one cheaper but my rain shower only 180mm hmm.gif & no thermostst
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thanks skng03

i am so looking forward to my hansgrohe raindance now...thanks for the review!
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I got Hansgrohe for the whole house. Never regretted! Go to Living Bathroom. They offer the best quotations and good after sales service.


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I got Hansgrohe for the whole house. Never regretted! Go to Living Bathroom. They offer the best quotations and good after sales service.
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Many Thanks. Toffeeman. We really appreciate the support you even to us.
Feel free to ever drop by our showroom if you're around Bangsar or PJ(do note that we are opening a new showroom) for lunch or a lil chat.

Living Bathrooms Sdn Bhd
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or visit us at our website www.livingbathrooms.com.my
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Anyone went for the flowline sale this weekend?
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I did, got some gooooooood price from flowline. ended up my bathroom with Grohe smile.gif
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Would it be cheaper if buy from outside? I means like US. (ebay, amazon, etc)
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QUOTE(LawrenZza @ Mar 10 2012, 04:43 PM)
Many Thanks. Toffeeman. We really appreciate the support you even to us.
Feel free to ever drop by our showroom if you're around Bangsar or PJ(do note that we are opening a new showroom) for lunch or a lil chat.

Living Bathrooms Sdn Bhd
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Would it be cheaper if buy from outside? I means like US. (ebay, amazon, etc)
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These are mechanical stuffs, online supply means you can't inspect the goods before purchasing. Returns will be a hassle if there are defects. My two cents worth.

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no need to ask him lar, he'll always tell u go to his shop one tongue.gif

actually i already got the hansgrohe rain shower & enjoy it everyday tongue.gif  just want to know if i got potong kao kao by Binx WxxH.... or not doh.gif
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I have been to 3 diffrent Binx WxxH in diffrent state, not much diffrence in their prices, just that the PJ and Ipoh branch are kinda snobbish.
When I buy, initially I was attracted to Agrow prices as there was a sale there with mind blowing prices, (rough estimate 10-15% lower than BinX WxxH package price). Then I met zheilwane .. and the rest is history. thumbup.gif
Note: cheapest is online buying but dunno ori and shipping cost make a diffrence or not.
Observation: Hans Grohe overhead rain shower is THE Premium product - RM 2k ++ compared to others which cost only a few hundred ringgit rclxub.gif
Too rich for me tongue.gif
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These are mechanical stuffs, online supply means you can't inspect the goods before purchasing. Returns will be a hassle if there are defects. My two cents worth.
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I have been to 3 diffrent Binx WxxH in diffrent state, not much diffrence in their prices, just that the PJ and Ipoh branch are kinda snobbish.
When I buy, initially I was attracted to Agrow prices as there was a sale there with mind blowing prices, (rough estimate 10-15% lower than BinX WxxH package price). Then I met zheilwane .. and the rest is history.  thumbup.gif
Note: cheapest is online buying but dunno ori and shipping cost make a diffrence or not.
Observation: Hans Grohe overhead rain shower is THE Premium product - RM 2k ++ compared to others which cost only a few hundred ringgit  rclxub.gif
Too rich for me  tongue.gif
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Do you have the exact price and model for this Grohe rain shower here? Want to see ebay what price and worth to buy.
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Do you have the exact price and model for this Grohe rain shower here? Want to see ebay what price and worth to buy.
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Threw away all my research material already. can't help you there. wink.gif
If you wanna buy online, I remember there is a link in a Singapore forum to a website somewhere where the price is really low.
Google lah...


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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jul 18 2012, 09:18 AM)
I have been to 3 diffrent Binx WxxH in diffrent state, not much diffrence in their prices, just that the PJ and Ipoh branch are kinda snobbish.
When I buy, initially I was attracted to Agrow prices as there was a sale there with mind blowing prices, (rough estimate 10-15% lower than BinX WxxH package price). Then I met zheilwane .. and the rest is history.  thumbup.gif
Note: cheapest is online buying but dunno ori and shipping cost make a diffrence or not.
Observation: Hans Grohe overhead rain shower is THE Premium product - RM 2k ++ compared to others which cost only a few hundred ringgit  rclxub.gif
Too rich for me  tongue.gif
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Didn't get the snobbish treatment when i went to Binx WxxH in PJ. Then again my friend when and splurge 20k+ on his bathroom fittings rclxub.gif . Seriously can't imagine spending that much on fittings.

There's one WC that i saw there... really feels like sitting in Biz class airplane seat. drool.gif But at almost 3k it was way-way over my budget. Can see but cannot buy.


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Do you have the exact price and model for this Grohe rain shower here? Want to see ebay what price and worth to buy.
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Go check out Toto rainshower head. Price bout RM900 which is quite decent considering most other stuff i saw was more than RM1k. It's the type that you have to use together with a in-wall hot/cold mixer.

But be warned you'll need excellent water pressure in your house or run a pump. Size is huge but taking a shower in the mornings is just priceless. brows.gif

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Go check out Toto rainshower head. Price bout RM900 which is quite decent considering most other stuff i saw was more than RM1k. It's the type that you have to use together with a in-wall hot/cold mixer.

But be warned you'll need excellent water pressure in your house or run a pump. Size is huge but taking a shower in the mornings is just priceless.  brows.gif
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Thanks for your suggest. Actually I don't need branded rain shower head. Any brand will do as long as it reliable. The toto 11" rain shower cost rm1800 at ebay. sweat.gif

If the branded can be get with a good price from oversea, than it is better than the normal 1.
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Thanks for your suggest. Actually I don't need branded rain shower head. Any brand will do as long as it reliable. The toto 11" rain shower cost rm1800 at ebay. sweat.gif 

If the branded can be get with a good price from oversea, than it is better than the normal 1.
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There is some difference between the good quality rain shower heads compared to the normal ones. Don't laugh but besides being copper or whatever the diff. in quality is in the nipple.

Good brands tend not to get clogged as often for some reason and all it takes is a touch of your finger to get the water flowing again.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 18 2012, 10:25 PM)
Thanks for your suggest. Actually I don't need branded rain shower head. Any brand will do as long as it reliable. The toto 11" rain shower cost rm1800 at ebay. sweat.gif 

If the branded can be get with a good price from oversea, than it is better than the normal 1.
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Ever considered Sorento? I know from my previous visit to zheilwane shop, he has one unit "grohe" in-wall mixer in stock (dunno still have but its original), combine that with a "sorento" rain shower head, can consider ah?
Can nego, nego with him.
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Ever considered Sorento? I know from my previous visit to zheilwane shop, he has one unit "grohe" in-wall mixer in stock (dunno still have but its original), combine that with a "sorento" rain shower head, can consider ah?
Can nego, nego with him.
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There is some difference between the good quality rain shower heads compared to the normal ones. Don't laugh but besides being copper or whatever the diff. in quality is in the nipple.

Good brands tend not to get clogged as often for some reason and all it takes is a touch of your finger to get the water flowing again.
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And easy leak. My two sorento leaking a bit, still waiting for instruction to dismantle and check the ceramic valve.

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And easy leak. My two sorento leaking a bit, still waiting for instruction to dismantle and check the ceramic valve.
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How about this one?

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Not that one
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For Bathroom Accessories like Paper Holder, Towel Bear, do you think I should go for branded like Toto?

Brand like Toto may cost more than RM100 and even up to RM600 for a single Towel bar.

Do you think it is worth it?

Between, do you guys know any major sales (when and where) for Toto Fittings such as the above?

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hi, PB is now having a promo with a few dealers to offer 40% on Hansgrohe products (till end of this year). The dealers participating are Agrow, Bathroom Centre, Living Portal, Prestige Bathroom etc.

But I only know of Bina Warehouse and Living Bathrooms as listed in Hansgrohe web and from reading this thread, can also confirm these two are confirmed HG dealers/distributors. Does anyone know if those in the PB list above are also bona-fide HG dealers?

btw anyone know when Bina Warehouse normally have their sales?

thanks.
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Rainshower head comparison

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Left: Grohe Cosmopolitan, Right: hansgrohe Raindance S 150 AIR 1-Jet

I've been using the Grohe for the last 3+ years. It's a large 160mm diameter head with 4 spray patterns, but I really just use the Rain function. Being such a large head the spray pattern is quite wide. The water spray is medium thickness and has a fine touch.

I've been intrigued by the hansgrohe AIR system for some time but never got one since I was quite happy with the Grohe. Anyway, with the recent Bina Warehouse sale I decided to pick up one to try. I bought the S 150 since that was the largest size. You would think with a name like S 150 the head is 150mm diameter, but in reality it is only 137mm. As you can see from the pic it is noticeably smaller than the Grohe.

Using the hansgrohe the first thing you notice is it is louder. Must be the air injection thing. The water spray is definitely thicker and has a more pulsing feel (very light massaging sensation), probably due to the air injection. The perception is that there is more water. The marketing material says it creates a "more voluminous feeling" and that is certainly true. Later I did test the actual flow rate by filling a bucket and timing it - the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe. Aside from that when washing the head and face, yes it does have a slightly softer feel than the Grohe.

So I'm happy switching over to the hansgrohe AIR shower head. Note: to really make full use of these large showerheads you need high water pressure.

BTW both heads are made in Germany.

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Good brands tend not to get clogged as often for some reason and all it takes is a touch of your finger to get the water flowing again.
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One the nozzle is slightly larger and less chance for limescale to accumulate, and secondly because the nozzle is soft rubbing/touching it dislodges the limescale easily.
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QUOTE(bhtan @ Jul 14 2011, 11:40 PM)
I like the old Grohe as they were solid and made in Germany. I have one which is so heavy and well built that you know that it will last a lifetime  Now a lot of Grohes are made in Thailand and still carry hefty price tag.
Was checking both manufacturer's websites. For Grohe, 60% are made in Germany. Hansgrohe 80% are made in Germany. The trick is finding out which are the items which are not made in Germany.

At least this site indicates which is from Germany and which from Thailand: http://sanihome-penang.blogspot.com/search/label/Grohe
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 31 2012, 12:19 PM)
So I'm happy switching over to the hansgrohe AIR shower head. Note: to really make full use of these large showerheads you need high water pressure.
Any recommendation on shower pump for a double-storey house?

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Any recommendation on shower pump for a double-storey house?
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Rainshower head comparison

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Left: Grohe Cosmopolitan, Right: hansgrohe Raindance S 150 AIR 1-Jet

I've been using the Grohe for the last 3+ years. It's a large 160mm diameter head with 4 spray patterns, but I really just use the Rain function. Being such a large head the spray pattern is quite wide. The water spray is medium thickness and has a fine touch.

I've been intrigued by the hansgrohe AIR system for some time but never got one since I was quite happy with the Grohe. Anyway, with the recent Bina Warehouse sale I decided to pick up one to try. I bought the S 150 since that was the largest size. You would think with a name like S 150 the head is 150mm diameter, but in reality it is only 137mm. As you can see from the pic it is noticeably smaller than the Grohe.

Using the hansgrohe the first thing you notice is it is louder. Must be the air injection thing. The water spray is definitely thicker and has a more pulsing feel (very light massaging sensation), probably due to the air injection. The perception is that there is more water. The marketing material says it creates a "more voluminous feeling" and that is certainly true. Later I did test the actual flow rate by filling a bucket and timing it - the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe. Aside from that when washing the head and face, yes it does have a slightly softer feel than the Grohe.

So I'm happy switching over to the hansgrohe AIR shower head. Note: to really make full use of these large showerheads you need high water pressure.

BTW both heads are made in Germany.
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You mentioned "the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe." does this mean that hansgrohe do not save water? hmm.gif
Just Curious, to me water savings is secondary to "feel". biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Sep 3 2012, 06:47 PM)
You mentioned "the hansgrohe does in fact output 20% more water than the Grohe." does this mean that hansgrohe do not save water? hmm.gif
Just Curious, to me water savings is secondary to "feel". biggrin.gif
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Correct this model of the hansgrohe does not save water.

Actually most rainshowers are not the water saving type.
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If is approved by Singapore government mean it have some standard. They have some rating and only approved standard can be legally sell in Sg. Standard as in not above certain flow rate.
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Yeah for Singapore, the standard is <9 liters/min flow rate for shower mixers and heads.
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Actually most rainshowers are not the water saving type.
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Yeah for Singapore, the standard is <9 liters/min flow rate for shower mixers and heads.
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If i remember correctly, my hansgrohe rain shower r ECO smart certified, with output of 9L/min smile.gif

I did post some photo in previous page
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If i remember correctly, my hansgrohe rain shower r ECO smart certified, with output of 9L/min smile.gif

I did post some photo in previous page
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The ECO smart is built into the mixer, so that when you turn the handle it will restrict the output to 9l/min. The rainshower head itself can output more if you feed it more water (and if you have sufficient pressure). Edit: in your case the flow rate might be controlled by a filter insert since your set doesn't come with a mixer.

It's the same with my Grohe mixer, when you turn the handle there is a place where it will stop (and this is the Eco limit). But there is a button you can press to override the Eco limit and allows you to turn the handle to the max (if you want).

Anyway, the point is that there are several places where the flow rate can be controlled. Frankly though, to get the best feel out of a rainshower you need good pressure and high flow rate. Keeping it eco friendly won't give the best feel.

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My friend is using Hansgrohe rain shower and he says it's the best he's used ever. Water drops are gentle and doesn't splash everywhere.
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Second that.

Initially we had bought 2 Hansgrohe handshowers. The water jet (pressure, direction) was so much better than the other brands we'd used. So we did a comparison test and found that the Hansgrohe, despite having much stronger water pressure, was using a lot less water than 2 other brands.


My husband loved the Hansgrohe so much that he went out and bought 3 more to keep as spares.


Using the Hansgrohe handshower has been such a pleasure.





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Has anyone tried ordering Hansgrohe from Amazon Germany? It's quite a lot cheaper even after including delivery. But scared cannot reach or kena tax kow kow la
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Has anyone tried ordering Hansgrohe from Amazon Germany? It's quite a lot cheaper even after including delivery. But scared cannot reach or kena tax kow kow la
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How about Amazon US?
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It's cheaper from Amazon Germany
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If Amazon US is about the same price, I can get it probably without tax.
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Looking for a 3 way faucet, i so far found only in SpringKing, Blanco and Culino anyone else know where else sell this type of faucet?

Done some research on the below brands already:

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Hey hijack this tread abit.. Anyone looking for Hansgrohe Metris S Bath Mixer 31460?

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Brand new. was told the retail price is RM1,821. Am willing to let go at a discount. anyone interested?

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I able to get Hansgrohe Croma 160 Showerpipe for less than 1k online.

Grohe is also having promotion its Bauflow for 1.7k shower set + mixer + tap. In Malaysia showroom

Which I should I go for? Need sifu advice.

Those purchase online, will they have problem with Malaysia pipping thread?
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I went to showroom to have a look on the Grohe stuff at showroom. The 1.7k set are from Thailand. There are few series, i cant remember the name exactly. But the from thailand stuff are smaller in term of size. Thanks.
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The piping sizes are quite standard so even if you buy online it should fit.
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My German Shipment end up in Myammar  vmad.gif  They Put MY as country.. DHL tot is Myammar cry.gif
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My German Shipment end up in Myammar  vmad.gif  They Put MY as country.. DHL tot is Myammar cry.gif
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Myanmar is MM
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Guys,

what is the tax for this shower system? Does anybody have experienced buying this stuff online?



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According to Custom Website, shower pipe has no tax.. I duno lar.. praying now..
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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 4 2012, 08:00 AM)
The ECO smart is built into the mixer, so that when you turn the handle it will restrict the output to 9l/min. The rainshower head itself can output more if you feed it more water (and if you have sufficient pressure). Edit: in your case the flow rate might be controlled by a filter insert since your set doesn't come with a mixer.

It's the same with my Grohe mixer, when you turn the handle there is a place where it will stop (and this is the Eco limit). But there is a button you can press to override the Eco limit and allows you to turn the handle to the max (if you want).

Anyway, the point is that there are several places where the flow rate can be controlled. Frankly though, to get the best feel out of a rainshower you need good pressure and high flow rate. Keeping it eco friendly won't give the best feel.
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Actually, it will be great if one of the exhibition organizer, e.g. Homedec or Perfect Livin can organize a friendly match.
Let all the famous brands from Germany and Italy also for the not so famous oem brands from China, to send their rain showers, hand showers and basin taps for a friendly competitions. The juries are comprises of 5 professional bodies and 5 from the publics. Let them give the points and feedbacks. And at the same time, all the sifus from LY's forum can gather and 'feel' for themselves. Everyone have a different taste. An at the same time also, there are comparison between the high flow system Vs Eco smart system, both feed with good water pressure (min.3bars).

Then for the first time in my life (maybe not yours), can see, feel and make the right choice for our bathroom.
German, Italian or Chinese..? Taste Vs Design Vs performance Vs durability Vs value for $$$.

Just wondering, when you have visited Germany, Italy and China. You will realize that each country have a different culture and strength. Also weakness too.
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QUOTE(kktong83 @ Apr 26 2013, 06:33 PM)
According to Custom Website, shower pipe has no tax.. I duno lar.. praying now..
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Any sales around Bina Warehouse, Flowline, or any good brands rain shower, can you all just share here(if any la...)
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Any sales around Bina Warehouse, Flowline, or any good brands rain shower, can you all just share here(if any la...)
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Flowline 40% off now. I am looking for a place to view Hansgrohe that open on Saturday. Where can I go other than Bina?
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do you think they have markup the price then discount 40%?

QUOTE(praetorion @ Sep 19 2013, 12:04 PM)
Flowline 40% off now. I am looking for a place to view Hansgrohe that open on Saturday. Where can I go other than Bina?
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do you think they have markup the price then discount 40%?
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What do you think? Btw the 40% is off the RRP.

I have Hansa and Grohe now and want to add Hansgrohe to my list. So far only Hansa doesnt give you ridiculous discount. The rest like Gessi I dont bother to ask since their RRP is way higher than what I can find somewhere else.
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If Grohe have 40% discount maybe can consider. BTW any different between Grohe, Hansa & Hansgrohe?

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What do you think?  Btw the 40% is off the RRP.

I have Hansa and Grohe now and want to add Hansgrohe to my list. So far only Hansa doesnt give you ridiculous discount. The rest like Gessi I dont bother to ask since their RRP is way higher than what I can find somewhere else.
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If Grohe have 40% discount maybe can consider. BTW any different between Grohe, Hansa & Hansgrohe?
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The question is why set high RRP then give massive discount. If the product is good then price it right ppl will buy.

Hansa warranty 5 yrs. Direct from Germany.
Grohe is 10 yrs. Almost all of them made in China/Thai. only those exclusive model comes from Germany.
Hansgrohe not sure. The showroom i went close on Sat.

If you looking for rain shower system with thermostat, go with Hansa. I find them better build compare to Grohe.


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May i know where can get? How about the price? What you means rain shower with thermostat?

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The question is why set high RRP then give massive discount. If the product is good then price it right ppl will buy.

Hansa warranty 5 yrs. Direct from Germany.
Grohe is 10 yrs. Almost all of them made in China/Thai. only those exclusive model comes from Germany.
Hansgrohe not sure. The showroom i went close on Sat.

If you looking for rain shower system with thermostat, go with Hansa. I find them better build compare to Grohe.
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May i know where can get? How about the price? What you means rain shower with thermostat?
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PMed you the details.

Price is around Grohe range. Rain shower with thermostat is basically shower with mixer that you can set the water temperature instead of you adjust yourself. Only applicable if you using solar water heater.
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Flowline 40% off now. I am looking for a place to view Hansgrohe that open on Saturday. Where can I go other than Bina?
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I guess Hansgrohe SS6 showroom has to be open on Sat, no?
40percent? Now? Can you share more details? I don't see the promo leh...
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Btw, I compared Hansgrohe and Grohe. I somehow think Hansgrohe water pressure is lower leh(with same water input la). Meaning the water saving, Eco thingy, raindancey thing is controlling the amount of water.
I like lotsa water pressure etc leh, I honestly don't wanna be too Eco saving or whatever. Just want confort n enjoy bathing.
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I guess Hansgrohe SS6 showroom has to be open on Sat, no?
40percent? Now? Can you share more details? I don't see the promo leh...
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No they don't. They are the main distri i think. Another option is Jalan Maarof Bangsar but that was a pain to get to.

40% and price increase when they bring is new stock according to the lady. You need to walk in and ask. I must say they are not the type of outlet that smile to you when you walk in. It has been like that since day 1 so if you don't expect anything like that.

As for Hansgrohe water pressure I have no idea but i think you can swap out the aerator to non water saving type.
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Fyi, a Japanese company, Lixil, has agreed to takeover Grohe for about 4 billion USD. Biggest takeoer of a German company by a Japanese firm. Apparently Lixil is a "bathroom equipment maker". Together, they'll be the largest makers of bathroom and kitchen accessories in the world. Not sure what this'll mean for Grohe in terms of quality, etc.
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Came across one showroom called Wasser Werkz whose selling Grohe. Heard my fren who is a developer's buyer says that they are one of the dist too and price is quite competitive. Anyone paying a visit before?? Service good, price good??? hmm.gif
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where can i get the Italy fiore single lever in malaysia??

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Hi hi,

Since this is a grohe related thread, would anybody here be able to recommend a contractor that is familiar with installing tap & shower fixtures?
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Am looking to get my shower head replaced. Currently, using Johnson Suisse Pacific (paired with a Grundfos pump). Served me well and frankly, it can still be used. However, since I am getting some plumbing work done (pipe leak), considering to get a new shower head and have the plumber swap it for me.

For those of you using this expensive rain shower heads, is it really worth the money? It's easily 4 to 6 times more than a local brand.

Are the showers more enjoyable? From what I have read, these shower heads are more about getting the best results with good water conservation. Not too concerned with water conservation.. just want a shower that feels like heavy rain.


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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Apr 26 2018, 12:09 AM)
Am looking to get my shower head replaced. Currently, using Johnson Suisse Pacific (paired with a Grundfos pump). Served me well and frankly, it can still be used. However, since I am getting some plumbing work done (pipe leak), considering to get a new shower head and have the plumber swap it for me.

For those of you using this expensive rain shower heads, is it really worth the money? It's easily 4 to 6 times more than a local brand.

Are the showers more enjoyable? From what I have read, these shower heads are more about getting the best results with good water conservation. Not too concerned with water conservation.. just want a shower that feels like heavy rain.
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if u get grohe or hansgrohe, they are designed to save water, hence u feel less water compared an ordinary shower without water saving. Go test it out in showrooms. u can test sorento in my shop/ i dont sell grohe and hansgrohe

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QUOTE(Par@dox @ Apr 26 2018, 12:09 AM)
Am looking to get my shower head replaced. Currently, using Johnson Suisse Pacific (paired with a Grundfos pump). Served me well and frankly, it can still be used. However, since I am getting some plumbing work done (pipe leak), considering to get a new shower head and have the plumber swap it for me.

For those of you using this expensive rain shower heads, is it really worth the money? It's easily 4 to 6 times more than a local brand.

Are the showers more enjoyable? From what I have read, these shower heads are more about getting the best results with good water conservation. Not too concerned with water conservation.. just want a shower that feels like heavy rain.
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I find rain shower head a bit troublesome when you do not intend to wash your hair when you are taking bath.
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Hi guys, sorry for bumping up old thread. Cant find other threads that discuss rain shower specifically. I’m in the lookout for concealed mixer shower and came across below packages from Grohe. RM2888 for the eurosmart series and RM3088 for the eurostyle series. Are these price reasonable? Or is there other places online which I can source them cheaper? I tried amazon.de but got lost in translation lol. I searched for the parts individually end up more or less same price as over here.

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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Mar 23 2021, 10:20 AM)
Hi guys, sorry for bumping up old thread. Cant find other threads that discuss rain shower specifically. I’m in the lookout for concealed mixer shower and came across below packages from Grohe. RM2888 for the eurosmart series and RM3088 for the eurostyle series. Are these price reasonable? Or is there other places online which I can source them cheaper? I tried amazon.de but got lost in translation lol. I searched for the parts individually end up more or less same price as over here.

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RM2,888 sounds expensive for a normal shower mixer.

I bought my thermostatic shower mixer, Grohe Euphoria 260 for around RM1.8k inclusive of shipping & tax deposit from Amazon.de.

For RM3k you can get Grohe Grotherm Smartcontrol set already.

Lost in translation? Just change the default language to English.
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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Mar 23 2021, 10:20 AM)
Hi guys, sorry for bumping up old thread. Cant find other threads that discuss rain shower specifically. I’m in the lookout for concealed mixer shower and came across below packages from Grohe. RM2888 for the eurosmart series and RM3088 for the eurostyle series. Are these price reasonable? Or is there other places online which I can source them cheaper? I tried amazon.de but got lost in translation lol. I searched for the parts individually end up more or less same price as over here.

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Like blanket84 mentioned, cheapest shud b from amazon de. But do remember to add the basin mixer into ur comparison as the package u showed includes a basin mixer......

so reasonable anot sometimes is subjective to each.... for ur case, from amazon de, price shud b around 2.3k (after tax) to get all the grohe items above (for the eurostyle set).... difference is 700~800.... this u nid to ask urself, how is this price difference weigh to u, u willing to pay or u wanna save it for sth else?

To think this way, the price difference can account for:
1) Mainly warranty for the items (if item faulty or problem in the future)
2) service from the shop when u looking for these items, do they serve u well? do they assist u if u nid help in installing?
3) after service from the shop (if anything happens, will they service u?)
** i know no2 & 3 might not be important.... juz saying.... sweat.gif **

grohe warranty if not mistaken is 5 yrs.... so touch wood if anything happens, is 800 able to get u a new grohe? dun think so.... but sorento mayb..... sweat.gif

And if u r not rushing, may u can survey few more shops tat r carrying grohe.... mayb there will b some shop willing to give u a few hundreds more discount since now difficult times...seller mau sales... brows.gif

If without the things mentioned above doesnt cause too much issue to u, amazon de is the cheapest....

Just my 2 cents.... good luck in ur shopping..... smile.gif
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 23 2021, 02:09 PM)
RM2,888 sounds expensive for a normal shower mixer.

I bought my thermostatic shower mixer, Grohe Euphoria 260 for around RM1.8k inclusive of shipping & tax deposit from Amazon.de.

For RM3k you can get Grohe Grotherm Smartcontrol set already.

Lost in translation? Just change the default language to English.
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Thats cheap but I’m not interested with the exposed set. Change to English already but not everything got translated especially the description part. Anyway i’ve looked at the grotherm smartcontrol before. After shipping it cost about 870euro roughly about RM4.2k. Mind sharing where you found it for RM3k? Maybe I didnt have the right keyword to search the RM3k set

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B075QNGDZB/re...AKR8XB7XF&psc=1
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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Mar 23 2021, 04:50 PM)
Thats cheap but I’m not interested with the exposed set. Change to English already but not everything got translated especially the description part. Anyway i’ve looked at the grotherm smartcontrol before. After shipping it cost about 870euro roughly about RM4.2k. Mind sharing where you found it for RM3k? Maybe I didnt have the right keyword to search the RM3k set

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B075QNGDZB/re...AKR8XB7XF&psc=1
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One thing about buying in Amazon.de, you have to monitor the price before buying. And the more you buy, the cheaper the price (the savings is mostly at the shipping & tax deposit).

Like this one below, can easily become 3k++ when they slash the price, and the price fluctuate almost everyday. Like mine, normal price is around 2.5k, after 2-3 months monitoring, I found that the lowest it could go is RM1.8k. So I bought them when the price become the price I targeted again. And I bought plenty of items in the purchase too, so the savings in shipping and taxes becoming more.

Grohe Geotherm Smart Control
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QUOTE(YH820 @ Mar 23 2021, 04:34 PM)
Like blanket84 mentioned, cheapest shud b from amazon de. But do remember to add the basin mixer into ur comparison as the package u showed includes a basin mixer......

so reasonable anot sometimes is subjective to each.... for ur case, from amazon de, price shud b around 2.3k (after tax) to get all the grohe items above (for the eurostyle set).... difference is 700~800.... this u nid to ask urself, how is this price difference weigh to u, u willing to pay or u wanna save it for sth else?

To think this way, the price difference can account for:
1) Mainly warranty for the items (if item faulty or problem in the future)
2) service from the shop when u looking for these items, do they serve u well? do they assist u if u nid help in installing?
3) after service from the shop (if anything happens, will they service u?)
** i know no2 & 3 might not be important.... juz saying.... sweat.gif **

grohe warranty if not mistaken is 5 yrs.... so touch wood if anything happens, is 800 able to get u a new grohe? dun think so.... but sorento mayb..... sweat.gif

And if u r not rushing, may u can survey few more shops tat r carrying grohe.... mayb there will b some shop willing to give u a few hundreds more discount since now difficult times...seller mau sales...  brows.gif

If without the things mentioned above doesnt cause too much issue to u, amazon de is the cheapest....

Just my 2 cents.... good luck in ur shopping..... smile.gif
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You're right. If one wants to buy cheap, it means that one also need to forgo the warranty. Like in my case, the "sale" price here in Malaysia is RM3,688. I bought for RM1.8k++, so after I did my calculation, I could easily buy another unit as spare parts and not to mentioned, I bought 2 units. So the savings of approx RM3,600 for is good enough to forgo the warranty.

So one need to do the calculation before deciding.
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QUOTE(YH820 @ Mar 23 2021, 04:34 PM)
Like blanket84 mentioned, cheapest shud b from amazon de. But do remember to add the basin mixer into ur comparison as the package u showed includes a basin mixer......

so reasonable anot sometimes is subjective to each.... for ur case, from amazon de, price shud b around 2.3k (after tax) to get all the grohe items above (for the eurostyle set).... difference is 700~800.... this u nid to ask urself, how is this price difference weigh to u, u willing to pay or u wanna save it for sth else?

To think this way, the price difference can account for:
1) Mainly warranty for the items (if item faulty or problem in the future)
2) service from the shop when u looking for these items, do they serve u well? do they assist u if u nid help in installing?
3) after service from the shop (if anything happens, will they service u?)
** i know no2 & 3 might not be important.... juz saying.... sweat.gif **

grohe warranty if not mistaken is 5 yrs.... so touch wood if anything happens, is 800 able to get u a new grohe? dun think so.... but sorento mayb..... sweat.gif

And if u r not rushing, may u can survey few more shops tat r carrying grohe.... mayb there will b some shop willing to give u a few hundreds more discount since now difficult times...seller mau sales...  brows.gif

If without the things mentioned above doesnt cause too much issue to u, amazon de is the cheapest....

Just my 2 cents.... good luck in ur shopping..... smile.gif
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Ya search for the parts individually but end up just a few hundreds savings have to think twice due to your reasons 1 and 3 lol. If 50% savings then it will be a no brainer to buy from amazon. I try to get my bathroom done before raya if possible so still about 1 month to source for them. Will try to check other shops like you mentioned. Hopefully can get some good deals around

QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 23 2021, 05:14 PM)
You're right. If one wants to buy cheap, it means that one also need to forgo the warranty. Like in my case, the "sale" price here in Malaysia is RM3,688. I bought for RM1.8k++, so after I did my calculation, I could easily buy another unit as spare parts and not to mentioned, I bought 2 units. So the savings of approx RM3,600 for is good enough to forgo the warranty.

So one need to do the calculation before deciding.
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Thanks bro for the tips, I will monitor them to see if the price will go down 👍

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 23 2021, 05:14 PM)
You're right. If one wants to buy cheap, it means that one also need to forgo the warranty. Like in my case, the "sale" price here in Malaysia is RM3,688. I bought for RM1.8k++, so after I did my calculation, I could easily buy another unit as spare parts and not to mentioned, I bought 2 units. So the savings of approx RM3,600 for is good enough to forgo the warranty.

So one need to do the calculation before deciding.
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yea, 50% cheaper, amazon de for sure..... haha.... with the same price u can even get a grotherm extra.... thumbup.gif but the time to monitor the price.... tat is a lot of patience u hav there..... notworthy.gif pro~~



QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Mar 23 2021, 05:29 PM)
Ya search for the parts individually but end up just a few hundreds savings have to think twice due to your reasons 1 and 3 lol. If 50% savings then it will be a no brainer to buy from amazon. I try to get my bathroom done before raya if possible so still about 1 month to source for them. Will try to check other shops like you mentioned. Hopefully can get some good deals around
Thanks bro for the tips, I will monitor them to see if the price will go down 👍
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yea.. if u buy more, mayb grohe they cant discount, but can discount other item.... brows.gif nego nego.....

n a friendly reminder, do estimate the delivery time if u get from amazon de.... hmm.gif custom clearance here is an uncertainty...... summore now mco no mco cmco rmco mcm mcm co..... doh.gif


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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Mar 23 2021, 05:14 PM)
You're right. If one wants to buy cheap, it means that one also need to forgo the warranty. Like in my case, the "sale" price here in Malaysia is RM3,688. I bought for RM1.8k++, so after I did my calculation, I could easily buy another unit as spare parts and not to mentioned, I bought 2 units. So the savings of approx RM3,600 for is good enough to forgo the warranty.

So one need to do the calculation before deciding.
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Plan to get buy some toilet fittings like rain shower, sink faucet from Amazon.de, anyone got experience whether customs will charge extra duties when arrive at Malaysia? I know Amazon side already budgetted around 6% for import duty.
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QUOTE(mysticxin @ May 31 2021, 03:41 PM)
Plan to get buy some toilet fittings like rain shower, sink faucet from Amazon.de, anyone got experience whether customs will charge extra duties when arrive at Malaysia? I know Amazon side already budgetted around 6% for import duty.
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If Amazon already collected import fees deposit for you, then you don't have to pay anything if custom charge import tax on the items that you purchased even the tax exceeded the fees collected. If no import fees collected, then the courier would collect the tax from you. So, to be safe, make sure that you buy items that import fees deposit are collected upfront.
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For those who purchased grohe from amazon de previously, mind to share how long for amazon to dispatch your order?
Just bought few items from there but most of them has no dispatch date. Not sure how long need to wait. sweat.gif
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I bought all my grohe sanitaryware and kitchen faucet from LTL Corp.. so much more convenient and at least u can see and feel the actual item. The price is very reasonable too.
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I bought all my grohe sanitaryware and kitchen faucet from LTL Corp.. so much more convenient and at least u can see and feel the actual item. The price is very reasonable too.
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Too bad I never had the chance to visit them due to the mco. I already got mine from amazon de just not sure when will they dispatch and deliver my order. hmm.gif
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Hi, plan to buy Grohe shower for 2 bathrooms, where do u guys get yrs in Klang Valley? There's LTL Corp and Top Idea, any where else?
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Hi, plan to buy Grohe shower for 2 bathrooms, where do u guys get yrs in Klang Valley? There's  LTL Corp and Top Idea, any where else?
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I got all mine from amazon.de.
Btw I have an extra set of Hansgrohe Crometta S240 Thermostat Showerhead to sell, not sure would you be keen biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tony_mw @ Nov 19 2021, 10:27 AM)
I got all mine from amazon.de.
Btw I have an extra set of Hansgrohe Crometta S240 Thermostat Showerhead to sell, not sure would you be keen biggrin.gif
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Why selling bro?

I almost bought this one as well last time since it was much cheaper than Grohe, but end up with Grohe instead.
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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Nov 20 2021, 08:11 AM)
Why selling bro?

I almost bought this one as well last time since it was much cheaper than Grohe, but end up with Grohe instead.
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Because my initial plan was to build 3 bathrooms but end up decided to build 2 instead now. sweat.gif

At first was thought to return the additional one back to Amazon but the shipping fees cost 1.8k due the volumetric calculation. Although amazon willing to cover the return shipping charges but it's kinda hassle to dealt with them based on my previous return experience. I manage to get my full refund in the end but it takes tons of follow up and conversation with different cs where I felt very troublesome) rclxub.gif

So I just think that might as well keep it or sell it locally. tongue.gif
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hi guys...
Beside Grohe and Hansgrohe... what are other good brand?

Sorento seems mid range
Johnson Suisse is slightly higher than Sorento?

how about Kohler.... just another generic designer brand?

btw... if anyone come across any good outlet sales for Grohe and Hansgrohe do let me know.

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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Mar 30 2022, 08:22 AM)
hi guys...
Beside Grohe and Hansgrohe... what are other good brand?

Sorento seems mid range
Johnson Suisse is slightly higher than Sorento?

how about Kohler.... just another generic designer brand?

btw... if anyone come across any good outlet sales for Grohe and Hansgrohe do let me know.
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Sorento is a local brand.... if not mistaken.

Johnson suisse is also a long history Malaysia brand but acquired by Roca (spain) in 2006 (wiki). Quite decent.... not sure now, but last time quite a lot developer using them.

Kohler is a US brand.... but our region's stock i guess mainly from kohler foshan china? still under kohler qc la....

correct me if im wrong.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Mar 30 2022, 08:22 AM)
hi guys...
Beside Grohe and Hansgrohe... what are other good brand?

Sorento seems mid range
Johnson Suisse is slightly higher than Sorento?

how about Kohler.... just another generic designer brand?

btw... if anyone come across any good outlet sales for Grohe and Hansgrohe do let me know.
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For Kohler, buying from Taobao and shipping here seems to be the best value. Some items can be 1/3 the price.
But problem with Taobao is need to be wary of fakes. So only buy from certified sellers.
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hi there- thanks for the tips
yeah- pretty concern about getting fake so will just get from local reseller.


btw... heard that Grohe is bought over by a Japanese brand? so is American Standards.
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QUOTE(Clueless07 @ Apr 6 2022, 09:00 AM)
hi there- thanks for the tips
yeah- pretty concern about getting fake so will just get from local reseller.
btw... heard that Grohe is bought over by a Japanese brand? so is American Standards.
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Yeap.... Grohe and American standard now are under Japanese group called LIXIL....

but under their own management (not merging) ....so i guess the qc and standard r still there.... brows.gif

 

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