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post Oct 19 2011, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Oct 19 2011, 12:05 PM)
btw. i have called up LG for help. Eventhough i am guided step-to-step in detail, the pc still cant detect the phone. The LG staff say that it might be the port problem, or the firmware problem, or PC prob, or cable prob. So I have to bring it to LG liao...... =(

Atleast now can still charge the batt.

BTW, THX guys!!! Add me on the list, yo.
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I had the same problem earlier, initially when i got the unit (new) everything was fine, until few months later i have the problem where i can charge the phone but cannot detect on the PC (earlier was fine & i've installed the drivers), i walk into LG service center @ PJ (near the swimming pool in Kelana Jaya - for your case, look for the one nearest to you) with the complete set (phone, box and IMPORTANT : proof of purchase - receipt/invoice). Told the staff about the problem and he check the set (they can do on spot but you need to wait - i waited 45min - 1 hrs)

Problem settle, cause is the connection inside the phone (microfilm or whatever its called is faulty) and it was replace and BONUS to that, i've requested them to update the phone (Firmware was 10d --> latest 10e) and it seems to resolve some other issues such as battery drain (well....i would say improve since instead of running out of juice in 1 day, it lasted 2 days, depends on how you use it)

By the way, mine is still under warrranty, so its zero cost to rectify the problem (for those AP or out of warranty, check with them how much they charge before you commit for the repair)

P/S: they will give you two option, come back few days later or wait, i rather wait for it then make another trip

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post Oct 19 2011, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Oct 19 2011, 06:54 PM)
Thx bro, its good news for me that it can be easily fixed. however, this is a second hand phone, the previous owner lost the receipt. only gave me an empty warranty card. The most valid proof i got now is most probably the thorus stickers on the batt and phone. =(


Added on October 19, 2011, 8:16 pmany idea how to backup my msgs, contacts, and apps before sending in to LG?
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Check out sms backup & restore from market. It's free and works perfectly for me (i've been trying out different ROMS and need my sms. As for contact - upload all your contact to your gmail online biggrin.gif, can access from any where as long as you log into gmail. apps - use titanium from market (different between pro and free version - more backup copies & can freeze apps)

Just bring your warranty card and hope that its registered in system, mine wasn't registered by the shop, even i gave them the other half to register, good thing is i have the receipt)
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post Oct 21 2011, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Oct 21 2011, 12:01 AM)
I just got back from the service center this afternoon. They fixed my usb thingy problem in an hour!!! They also say that gingerbread is available in about a month, duno whether it is true.
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Good to hear that you manage to get it fix. Heard that gingerbread is in testing phase (version 20j), no idea when its finalize and LG are pushing to get it out ASAP as there is a lot of complains and they have been pushing their delivery date from time to time. If you're tired of waiting, tryout the custom roms (I'm getting custom rom from modaco & xda developers, so far newer version still have alot of bugs) Its more responsive *and buggy too*

Well, what i can say is problem with current phone would be that Froyo battery utilization is not optimize (major drain) and with the custom rom, it helps [less drain] but how i resolve the common issue on battery drain - get extended battery, (original is 1500mAH, extend battery is 4500 mAH - normal usage = daily charge, extended battery is 3 days if moderate, if light can last longer but its bulky like old motorola phone biggrin.gif)

(P/S : if you want to keep the phone slim, you can try out getting slim higher capacity batteries, but honestly, i find them slightly better then original but not by alot. e.g 1 day use, maybe become 1 1/2 day or 2 days if you really tweak your phone to max. If i do the same thing for the extended battery, biggrin.gif 3 to 5 days on moderate/light usages)

In the meantime, keeping my finger cross hoping that ICS does come for this phone (gingerbread, little too late since ICS has been launch, maybe comes out when next edition is launch again or never at all tongue.gif)


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post Oct 21 2011, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Oct 21 2011, 11:35 AM)
So, was it a hardware or software problem? It'll be good to know just in case the same problem happens to any of us O2X owners.
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It depends on case by case basis, e.g. if your phone initially can access the usb from comp, suddenly cannot work and you didnt change anything (no flashing rom), then its hardware (microfilm or whatever the connection is called) because i did confirm with service centre and the person who help me out told me he replace the microfilm aka the connection on the board, and if you ask why it can charge but the usb dont work cause the connection for power still ok but the microfilm is broken, that is why you phone can charge but no usb biggrin.gif

How to confirm its hardware / software, check out nvflash tutorial from either modaco / xda developers forum, if can detect, then its software if cannot detect then its hardware. That's how i found out about it and got the phone *fixed* biggrin.gif (WARNING nvflash is actually a method to revert to stock ROMs so you can sent it back for warranty - so make sure you backup all your files to computer because it will wipe the phone from machine level to stock ROM tongue.gif )

P/S: this another thing to remember/try out. Use your usb cable on other's phone and see if it works. If not biggrin.gif change cable and try again (especially those cheap cable)

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post Oct 21 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(brian12988 @ Oct 21 2011, 02:12 PM)
the battery consumption for the v10e, is so far better than the topogigi 1.7 and CM7
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Battery consumption for v10e is acceptable (compare to earlier stocks), topogigi's v1.7 is ok but CM7 is better, problem with CM7 is alot of the functions is not complete (refer to the known list) so if you want a balance functions vs battery, stick with topogigi's (now already v2.0 sp3) but you need to flash your baseband few times to fix the battery drain (if no problem, don't flash). Paul's rom (modaco) isn't bad too but topogigi's is closer to stock rom (means you can use all function and it isn't as broken as the other custom, and of course not as fine tune as theirs too (in term of o/c, performance, battery drain, etc)

Well all these are my personal view after flashing back and forth for testing (its nightmare to keep restoring, so save yourself all the hassle by getting titanium to do all those restores)

One more thing, don't fix what is not broken, if your baseband is ok, don't flash it. I flashed my few times when i keep switching between roms to try out which one i find more stable & ofcouse i switch my card over to my spare phone when i do those flashing.


Summary
Best ROM for
1. Battery - CM7 (so far)
2. Features as close as stock - Topogigi's
3. Tune for balance - Paul's (well there are tons of other you can find in XDA developers, but this is my favourite)

Confirm no problem - LoL stock of course (v10e) - except the battery drain issue

Tips for battery drain
1. Turn off unused apps / widget /GPS
2. Set the screen brightness & timeout
3. This is preference for individual - your apps sync : whatsapps, viber, facebook, etc have alot sync which cause your phone to keep waking up (this really drain your battery alot)
4. Use 2G (LoL kinda of pointless since you want data transfer) but this help alot

By the way, do you know that by switching your phone to airplane mode, your phone can go on 5 days biggrin.gif, tried this when i was calibrating my battery after wipe but this is pointless since you can't use your phone for call (only wifi)

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post Oct 21 2011, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(vialim @ Oct 21 2011, 07:33 PM)
my new battery cover~ XD

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Hmm, the photo fits very well with this digi background biggrin.gif Looks different then stock brown, wonder if they have any alternative

Just wondering, how much you paid for that?
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post Oct 24 2011, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Oct 23 2011, 03:35 PM)
my topogigi ROM 1.9 had a major crash today, during startup when loading all the apps, all of the apps FC and keeps on FC.  Can't even load up the ROM after clear cache.  now downloading topogigi 2.0 and do an update since i was planning to do it even this problem didn't occur.  Anyone knows whether the battery drain problem has been fixed yet on 2.0???
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Did you try out the latest version? I had similar experience too but seem less on the latest version (v20 sp3) battery drain on v20 isn't much better by alot (unless you try HP kernal)


Added on October 24, 2011, 9:25 am
QUOTE(harrykh @ Oct 22 2011, 05:44 PM)
Know any good replacement/backup battery brand name for the optimus 2x? Extended battery is okay too. Right now I'm think Adida or Mugen, but Adida the temp reading doesn't work.

Anyone using any extended battery? Preferably people that are already using them for months, does it expire(decrease batt capacity) faster than the OEM? How many hours added compared to OEM?

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Depends on your preference, i'm using mugen extended right now, if i stick to v10e rom, battery can last me 5 days but i moved to custom rom (stock rom have issue with responsiveness, camera tweak, playback tweaks etc) and the battery drain is more (but your get more responsive phone, smoother playback on videos & game too biggrin.gif, well expected more drain when your phone is o/ced but still got 3 days for moderate usage)

Yup adida sensor dont work, mugen's work. So far i've used the mugen for few months don't see decrease yet, maybe need longer time to see it. How many hours added? depends on your usage (if you keep playing videos for hours, stock survive around 4 hours, mugen, haven't push that yet biggrin.gif)

P/S: do you know that you can actually buy original battery & backcover from LG directly? i bought mine from LG s/part center (which opposite the Kelana Jaya's swimming pool both cost around RM 70+ each


Added on October 24, 2011, 9:49 amJust wondering, anyone here manage to play full HD video smoothly on LG 2X? HD is ok, but so far no luck on full HD, its a shame for this Dual core not able to play smoothly FULL HD videos where as samsung galaxy tab, single core able to do it sad.gif

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post Oct 24 2011, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(volcane @ Oct 24 2011, 11:07 AM)
Just my 2 cents. If you get a spare battery, make sure you get a charger for it. Easier to manage. Paid US21 (plus shipping) for this.

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Nice charger, got the OEM desktop charger from ebay when i was trying out 1800mAH cheap battery set before i got my mugen extended battery. Where did you get your charger? ebay?How's the lifespan of your battery charged using the charger?

Not sure if this is due to built in cut off power, if i charged using the phone, somehow the charges is less compare when i charged using the desktop charger, you can try this out. 1st charge your phone to 100% then turn off the phone and press the power button and see if the battery bar is full and you will see it will continue to charge for a while. If i charged using the desktop charger, it show 100% full and no need to charge
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post Oct 24 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Oct 24 2011, 12:32 PM)
tested v20 sp2, no FC yet but got BSOD twice a day, still need some time to test it out and see whether this problem still occurs.  and u r right, battery drain is still immense, from 11pm 100% until 7am left 29%.  any other gingerbread ROMs that are stable to recommend?
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Well, i tried few roms as so far topogigi's one is better (with HP kernel), if your want improved battery, try cm7, just remember to get the gapps if you need market biggrin.gif, or you can try out paul's rom GR4, not bad but battery utilization not as good as cm7
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QUOTE(normal_user @ Oct 24 2011, 02:43 PM)
Just wondering. I checked last month on Celcom website that the O2X was around RM1,300+ (12months contract). Now the price has gone down to RM1,108. The O2X sold by Celcom, does it carries the latest firmware update (10e perhaps)?

Anyone bought the latest O2X offer from Celcom?
No more BSOD, rebooting & usb host problem?

I'm using Optimus One (runs on Void rom), and tired with crashes, reboots and unresponsiveness. Thinking of upgrading to O2X, but the stories told seems to freak me out.
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If you're referring to the phone offer from celcom, it depends on which batch you get, latest batch should comes with 10e, but if you get earlier batch which is 10a/10b/10c/10d you can walk into LG service center with your invoice and request them to update to latest firmware

As for BSOD, reboot & usb host problem, one advice, plug your phone and charge thru usb hub as the original charger seem to cause problem (overvolt which cause the phone to reboot or something which i suspect, burn of microfilm/connection in the phone - this will be replace by LG center as well as long your phone under warranty.)

Why i say suspect, its because when i bought the phone earlier, everything is fine until one day it stop detecting the usb but can charge. All this time i charge using the original charger, after i change from LG service center, i no longer use the original charger to charge & this problem goes away biggrin.gif

If you check other forums, the common complain & solution for reboot/bsod is charge thru usb hub/computer or like me now, desktop charger biggrin.gif

LG 2X is nice & affordable phone but it need a good software/ROM to make it a wonderful phone (not now, LG ROM is not good enough & SLOW) So if you got yourself new 2X and not satisfy with the performance, you can try out custom ROM. Just make sure you do nandroid backup before flashing so you can revert to stock rom later for warranty biggrin.gif

P/S: v10e performace is decent until you tried the custom rom, when you revert you will complain its not responsive enough (but v10e (froyo) battery is better then custom ROM which currently is based on gingerbread)
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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Oct 24 2011, 04:11 PM)
did your BSOD problem happens during charging or after unplug the phone from the charger?  Mine happens NOT during charging but in between sleep modes when I wasn't using the phone at all for a long period of time (around 30min to 1 hour), the phone was just sitting on the desk and I press power button it was off, need to remove battery to on back again
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Hmm, for my case was, when the phone is new no issue earlier until BSOD started to happened (initially when charging then gotten worst to inactivity) or reboot while charging. Then it gotten worst to usb port not working & that when i sent the phone in for warranty. The LG service center took the phone in and give me to option, wait or come back later. Since i'm stuck without spare phone, i waited and he went in to replace some parts.

Went he came back with my phone, i asked him what he did to the phone for the problems i reported earlier especially the NOT working usb but can charge, and he told me about replacement of few parts & microfilm connection for usb.

That is why i stated earlier that i suspect the original charger is overvolt and started to screw the phone up. Good
things is they fix the phone in the same day. Since then i DON't charge using the original charger directly and no more problem to this day (well except waiting for more decent rom to replace v10e or keep trying out other roms which i find best to fully make use of this phone)


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post Oct 24 2011, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(dk999 @ Oct 24 2011, 04:51 PM)
Hey wondering about you guys owning 2x

How serious are these issues affect Current batch of the 2x?

up to date there is number of bugs with the software and hardware

Software
- Auto Reboot
- Hangs
- slowness
- unresponsive

this will be fix with future lg update . if u cant wait just flash custom rom biggrin.gif

Hardware
- IPS yellow bleed screen

edit: read post above

seems like this phone need to use usb charger + custom rom to even perform normally.. Not really suitable if just want to buy and use it vanilla?
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@dk999,
If you set your expectation right, (affordable smartphone which can do most of your stuff on normal phone + play game + online stuff : fb,tweet, browse, etc & battery require daily recharge (what do you expect, big nice screen will drain major of the juice from your 1500mAH battery), then this phone fits the bill.

Phone is good to use as vanilla (v10e), just try either other charger or charge using usb.

If you want more tweaks/features (try custom roms) but if you want all well out of the box, you can try either HTC / Samsung (SGII is quite good, tried if on my friends phone and love it, but it have one problem biggrin.gif battery doesn't last, he got ext battery biggrin.gif)

Well i got this phone when it just launch, that time its value for money and now the price keep dropping (expected since there is more competition)

Just don't expect your phone to last like older generation like few days or a week (i miss the time my old handy phone, last 1 week per charge)


Added on October 24, 2011, 5:37 pm
QUOTE(normal_user @ Oct 24 2011, 05:20 PM)
Some O2X users on xda forum have the same problem, even when they already mod their rom with the latest CM rom. It can be a hardware problem, depends on where the batch of the O2X is manufactured. Some batches may be ok, and some not.

My LG Optimus one often freezes and reboots (not during charging).. even with the best custom rom installed (Void).

That's why I'm afraid to upgrade to this O2X.. The potential risks doesn't seem to justify its cheaper price. LG must to something to repair its image.. rclxub.gif
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Agree, sometimes it still depends on your luck to get one phone without problem, so far LG's impression for me, nice spec on phone for that price but they REALLY need to fix up their software & Quality Control, especially on the charger. Imagine if everyone got GOOD working charger from the start, we wont be facing all those hassle when it screw up the phone or a decent rom like current v10e from start biggrin.gif



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post Oct 25 2011, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(fool1988 @ Oct 24 2011, 11:18 PM)
Any new baseband match topogigi 1.9 prefectly? I found that my phone signal is not that good and sometime people is hardly to call me
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bb 725 works well but you must also make sure you have a matching ril (download getril from market and it will tell if it matches it)


Added on October 25, 2011, 1:00 am
QUOTE(matyrze @ Oct 24 2011, 07:34 PM)
Hey guys, wanna ask. Do apps like CPU tuner help to increase battery life?
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Depends on how you use it, if you set it to downclock, means it uses less battery, then yes it help increase bettery life, if you use to overclock, then nope, it drain more battery but you have better performance phone biggrin.gif


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post Nov 2 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(kento @ Nov 2 2011, 12:00 AM)
looks a bit complicated... sweat.gif  wait until got official release update lah...
now still:   shakehead.gif
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This one is simpler using clockworkmod

Paul's
Link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1328656

or

Official Italian/Europe

Link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327949

For those not using 725 GB baseband, pls flash the baseband 1st

Get the baseband and instructions from the first post of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1181407

Reminder : Please backup all your data,apps before proceed, it wipes everything.

All credits to XDA

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QUOTE(kento @ Nov 2 2011, 12:22 PM)
waiting for official...oso thinking to letgo my O2X... rolleyes.gif
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Well its a waste to let go the phone as the spec is quite good, only the ROM is outdated. Will try it out before i make any jump to other phone.

One thing for sure is, i'll really put LG in my bottom list of manufacturer for any purchase i'm going to make in future, until they proof themselves. So far i tried samsung and they are quite ok, but don't expect long life for the items you buy from them (not the item dont last, but they phase out really quick and replace with other models) but at least not as crappy that they launch the product with outdated ROM
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post Nov 2 2011, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(kento @ Nov 2 2011, 04:49 PM)
actually am satisfied with the hardware n performance lah bro...but the speaker n sound quality is bit low level lah...like broken speaker sometime..how bout u a?
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Sound is ok for me, well i'm using custom rom with voodoo sound. Check out this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161490

The part i dont like is the battery drain, i'm using ext battery & yes i like the ext battery but i prefer the phone with original battery which last LONGER!, tried CM7 = battery is GOOD, and this suppose to be the experience that users get. This show that the phone's battery suppose to last! Oh well, now trying the v20l and hope battery last, so i can switch back to original battery instead of rely on ext battery, well not that im ditching the ext battery, just keep it as backup when i go around places without charger biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(mosesmao @ Nov 2 2011, 07:01 PM)
anyone updated their o2x to GB?
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No official for malaysia, but i'm using the europe 20l right now, still trying out see how long it last with single charge under v20l.

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QUOTE(kento @ Nov 2 2011, 07:46 PM)
same here...the custom update one very time consuming n too techhie lah...haha  sweat.gif
wait for officiallah
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Well, if i were to simplified the steps,

1. Make sure you're running on baseband 725, make sure your backup before flashing (try titanium)
2. If running official froyo, skip step 3 go to step 4 (original froyo is ext3 but most of custom rom out there is ext4)
3. If running custom rom, make sure you're on ext3, if not sure, just run Paul's return to ext3
4. Factory reset, clear cache, wipe Dalvik cache's
5. Flash the rom v20l and reboot after everything is done
6. Boot in and restore

That's it,

Normally people have bootloop, this is due to reason they straight install on ext4, which suppose to be installed on ext3 and for those have problem with line drop - try baseband 725, it work for me.

Now trying out the official v20l and see if the battery problem is still around or they're gone, like topogigi's but too bad battery drain is a hassle

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QUOTE(mkariff @ Nov 3 2011, 07:33 PM)
1 question,

what firmware can I use?is it Asia?or hongkong?or euro open? and compatible with LG Malaysia?

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Are you referring to official release from LG or the one posted in forum like XDA? If official, its not out yet for malaysia but if you can still use the one from XDA posted by Euro/Italian ROM. Difference is the ntp & other setting is custom for that region and you can change them after you flash. Just get apps like fasterfix to set the ntp region & gpsfix for setting gps fix and you're good to go.

Other than that, ofcourse the bloatware on region differs and you will be getting those from Euro/Italian

Hope this answer your question
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QUOTE(wenhui100 @ Nov 4 2011, 09:12 AM)
hi, new to flashing, i have got tonnes of questions , please help

i am on froyo original malaysia O2X, b4 i can flash to custom rom topogigi, do i need to flash to the stock rom GB first then topogigi rom??

and what is v10d rom ?? V20l ?? baseband 725 ??

how to check ext3 or ext4 ??

I have already rooted my phone titanium backup installed , rom manager installed, flashed CWM from rom manager...  what is the recommended next step to flash safe fast good effecient batt saving gingerbread with custom roms?

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To answer your questions,

[OS] Froyo version is 2.2 & firmware revision that was shipped out was v10a and there has been updates from v10a to v10b,v10c,v10d & v10e (latest in froyo)

[OS] Gingerbread is 2.3 & firmware revision starts with v20l (official) excludes the beta (v20a to v20j)

Baseband quote from wiki "baseband is an adjective that describes signals and systems whose range of frequencies"

Ok, simplified what does baseband got to do is froyo uses different range from up to 725 & when gingerbread was introduce it is recommended to use 725

Hmm as for how to check ext3 & ext4 (refer to XDA forum, there has been alot of thread asking the samething) but what is can say is if you are using offical froyo and has not play around any custom rom, you're on ext3 and if you has install custom rom before, most likely you are on ext 4 (especially those try out CM7, it auto convert to ext4)

What are the steps? read earlier pages (not far just 1 or 2 pages before this, posted by me)

Important stuffs before flashing
Check for baseband
Click settings -> about phone -> baseband version -> if the last 3 digit is 725, then your ok to go for gingerbread, if not look up for instruction here "http://android.modaco.com/topic/335494-12-aug-smartflash-stock-baseband-release-103521-20110725/"

Just convert back to ext3 if you're not sure you on ext3 or ext4
refer to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...254359&page=414 @ #4139, there is link to the file via dropbox (especially for those in malaysia who cant access megaupload biggrin.gif )

Important stuffs after flashing
[B]Download [cool.gif
1. fasterfix - this to fix your region ntp
2. gpsfix - this to help you fix your gps then your gps locking time will be ok
3. getril - this to make sure your baseband is compatible/ok

As for battery efficiency on gingerbread, still testing out the charges on official before can share with you here

P/S: Simplest way to update for those who bought original phone & not AP is wait for official release in malaysia & walk into LG center and ask them to do it for you. Remember to back up 1st because this update will wipe everything
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QUOTE(mkariff @ Nov 3 2011, 10:22 PM)
yeahhh...thanks for your answer..

1 more question...i already flash V10d for India, Singapore, Viet, Thai firmware. When i try to update using LG smart tool, it mentioned i have the latest SW which is V20C...little bit confuse...in phone it stated V10d...why ah?
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This happens because you're flashing from different region rom, when your LG updater try to detect, it read from the phone, it read the hidden value and compare to their database on that region

I had this issue too, what i do is restore from my backup & if you don't have backup, you can walk into LG center and ask them to update the phone to latest.

After this your phone will be detected as MY region, if run the update via LG updater, it should tell you the correct one OR you can flash straight and play with the latest gingerbread.

When its launch in malaysia, then you walk into center & ask them to update to gingerbread (not sure when its coming out)


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