First, it is a 1 yr 9 months sx model forte

81.8k - 6.38k = 18k/1.75 so it is RM10,285 or average 12.5 % per year 
so why it is not like what i said depeciate more than 10% per year????
I really value ur 'calculation' but obviously it was very wrong , and u try to be smart enough u just make  foolish of yourself, i  burst into laughter and my jaw literally fell lol

even if count as 2 years for 1 yr 9 months old car...  the depreciation  is like 9k per year  so it still more than 10% ...

The other issue would be the pricing. Imagine how much Toyota will jack up the price if it were to include VSC and other luxury specs.

bermaz knows the 6 wont appeal to the masses. so its going to target those with taste for the design. and squeeze the ringgits out of these ppl. its not hard to be more attractive than camry on paper, so features will be there to entice u, and so its perfectly logical to price it above the camry, and earn more. even that hanokuku dude said he wont mind pay 180+K for the 6.

fantastic car. all the review i read practically worship the car.

and its proven how great it sells by seeing how much there are on the road.

Camry 2.5 6 speed auto la.

He comments on my quest that compare xv50 with a 2L car that cost more.

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Added on July 28, 2012, 7:15 am

You guys said that people who bought camry have a bad mindset. 'If it's from toyota, ...'
But, what about you guys? Anything from the european is good?

Bro, with regards to all the negative comments that you received, please don't feel frustrated, you had bought yourself a very good car and you should enjoy every moment you spent with her. Despite all the praises Mondeo receives, you will still see at the end of the day, only very few buyers will buy one, talking big and loud here is easy, how many actually dares to commit him/herself to buy a Mondeo? Besides, Mondeo's price is not that much higher than Camry 2.5's price, and with all the extra goodies Mondeo offer, it should attract many hardcore fans. Is this happening? I leave it to you to judge.....What you had bought gives you peace of mind, so, relax and happy motoring.

"Real world" is not just the car itself, but, (dang need to repeat again and again), also the availability of SC, cost of service, fuel consumption, NVH, RV, etc.

Actually, I like S40 more. It's within the same range of price with Camry. However, it's smaller and will probably break my pocket after I bought it.

Finally, someone here understand the needs for most people that live in the real world.
Yap, but, S60 is much higher than XV50.

So, I just take the median.

Smaller in what sense? Just cuz a car is shorter doesnt mean its interior space is smaller. And the S40 is about RM5K cheaper than the Camry. Although its design is quite outdated but its dashboard layout is better than the Camry. But comparing between the S40 and the 2.5V Camry only, ill take the Camry. but i gave some serious thought to the S60 before i decided on the Optima.

Did you know that i actually spent alot of time in Kia showrooms just walking around the Optima countless number of times just to allow that initial wow factor to wear off? Like you, i didnt wanna get hooked just cuz of the looks alone. I thought i was the only one but now i know that im not alone. 

But i too looked at the 3 Series and the facelifted A4 but the interior space was a real let down for both cars despite being luxury brands with all the other specs on offer.

I know you have your views on paying off in 5 years and not wanting to take longer loan.

From a financial perspective, since the car loan rate is fairly low and FD rate is higher, would it not make sense to borrow longer? Then you have more time to take advantage of the difference in rates.

I like the F30 also but must wait another 4-5 years also

Isnt that what i said before albeit with different words? 

Btw, are you sure others did as much homework as i did? 

How safe Toyota Car?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx8qNxvAZ6U&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LtyQ6YcMBo&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHlfC3lM7JQ

Yes, i think owner will bring this to court.

But for me, bring it to court or not is small matter, the problem is for a new camry (5 mths old) when accident happen why the airbag doesn't function? Is there any calculation to said that how serious of the impact and then the airbag will come out?

How to test that the airbag is in working condition for any car? What about other so called "safety" devices?
Most of them are controlled electronically by some sort of microchip.

Is there any possibility that those devices will fail when needed. Yes, they worked perfectly in lab or in control environment. But, will it work during the needed time.

My computer and phone also freezed. For example, my computer sometimes works perfectly when it is tested before a presentation, but, freeze during the presentation. And, work again after the presentation.

iPhone and China clone iPhone both work fine as a phone except that the later is cheaper.
Is the cloned one is reliable if the original's reliability is also cannot be fully trusted?

Any car manufacturer can fit many of the so called "safety" devices.
Will they work as intended?
Do you get high quality "safety" devices, or some China cloned one? Especially if the car's price is far cheaper from it's competitors.

We have research a lot for literature to support our "hypothesis" that these "safety" devices are good and needed.
Perhaps, now is the time to review on the contradiction.

Perhaps that's why the VSC is not fitted in XV50.
In the first video, it is said that the steering wheel jammed, just like the K5 video that bumped straight to a petrol station.

I looking forward another 5-7years later in this thread.


Then I know the result when I see who complaint 1st. Now all nonsense  about talking know well about new car.

Any new product sure got mention good and best of their product. But we only the reliability when we use it after sometimes.

Reliability - who masuk bengkel more
Safety - Ratio of accident /total local number
Resell value - after 2 years you will know how is the value.
FC - you all will know after hitting 50k km. you can lie to anyone. But sooner every forumer will mention the FC since not you only who use same type of car.

ok, you are right. lets take 5 years shall we 

include passat also can?