For most new cars, using Fully Synthetic Oil is much recommended. Anyway this schedule refers to only SERVICING. Part replacement due to wear & tear is not shown here. So as in most cases, the first year or so, will closely follow this chart but after that the cost starts increasing. And Toyota's parts arent cheap once u add on the labor and service charges as well.

Yes a figure of 8.xkm/L seems quite logical for a 2.4L car in 100% city driving. I dont really see how you can get better than that. The advantage of the extra gear on the 6 speed auto wont really matter since you wouldnt get into 6th gear that often in normal city driving conditions.

This is a good read and the basis of most of our critisms of the new Toyota Camry:

http://paultan.org/2012/06/27/esp-stabilit...-in-their-cars/

There is always an off button for ESP especially for CBU cars cuz in foreign countries, when the car is stuck in snow, the ESP actually hampers movement as it misinterprets it as loss of control.

Yes its supposed to provide better FC but even the best systems would mean little vs the gear systems. You need to look at the percentage of savings. Even the Optima is equiped with dual exhaust and intake valves.

Btw, i asked you earlier about your latest fuel consumption readings. So far uve only quoted the first outstation trip as reference. How about 100% city driving?

So its 11.3km/L in 100% city driving right? That adds up to approx 700+km per full tank. So its basically the same as the 2.0L Optima K5 consumption in city driving which makes sense for most D segment cars.

But have you actually done an actual test of your range using the fill up-measure-fill up again method?

New Camry in American got 10 airbags, VSC, TRAC, SST, ABS, EBD, BA, WIL, ELR, TPMS, BSM, Energy absorbing collapsible steering. Most importantly it sold less than RM100K. UMW sell at >RM180 just with ABS, EBD and BA??? i couldn't figure out why this stupic FxxKer new Camry in Asia is so Fxxk Up by stepping backward. WATER FISH HERE IS BIG!!!!       

Bro, i think u need to check your facts before mentioning it. Go do some research on why u think the Stability Control & Traction Control cannot work on wet condition. Then come here and share. Dont just pass information like a postman.


Swedish National Road Administration

ESP (Electronic Stability Program) has recently been introduced onto the market in an effort to reduce the number and severity of loss-of-control automobile accidents. This reduction is expected to be particularly evident for accidents on roads with low friction (e.g., wet or icy conditions). This study aimed to evaluate the statistical effectiveness of ESP using data from accidents that occurred in Sweden during 2000 to 2002. To control for exposure, induced exposure methods were used, where ESP-sensitive to ESP-insensitive accidents and road conditions were matched in relation to cars equipped with and without ESP. Cars of similar, or in some cases identical, make and model were used to isolate the role of ESP. As predicted, the study showed a positive effect of ESP in circumstances where road surfaces have low friction. The overall effectiveness was 22.1 (+/-21) percent, while for accidents on wet roads, the effectiveness increased to 31.5 (+/-23.4) percent. On roads covered with ice and snow, the corresponding effectiveness was 38.2 (+/-26.1) percent.

There's nothing to reject friend, the results are pretty conclusive. Having ESC is definitely better than no ESC.

http://www.mynrma.com.au/images/Motoring-P...l_factsheet.pdf

But the findings did conclude for normal everyday driving and bumper to bumper traffic, you won't use this feature. But it is definitely something I'd rather have than not.

From my personal experience, I've actually activated this feature about 4 time for my Corolla throughout the 4 years of ownership and every time it is because the system thought I was entering a curve too quickly. What happens is the steering wheel will vibrate and a beeping sound will ring and the car will slow down faster. On 3 occasions, it happened on a bright sunny day and the finjust curioual was actually on a rainy day.

Accident on Friday to 2012 Camry reason (drift), incident in the capital of Saudi Arabia is Riyadh, the speed of the car during the incident (200 km).

Bro, why dont u do some research of your own and understand the meaning of the results before talking about rejecting the results? Just cuz u dont understand something doesnt mean its wrong. These surveys were not done by some Malaysian crony agency for u to even doubt its accuracy.

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So what's the purpose in posting this? Are you trying to say something?

Anyway, im quite sure this model did not have the ESP package. But without seatbelts, its pointless to have even airbags. They deserved this trying to do drifting on a busy highway.

In such extreme cases I doubt if even ESP can save them.
It would be quite simple for you to check by going to Toyota Saudi Arabia's website: http://www.toyota.com.sa/en/specs.asp?model_id=4

Top 50 models in May 2012

except for Toyota, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, MINI and  Lexus.

by brands Market Report for May 2012 (Brands).

similar with technology. like develop countries always get experience on hand with lastest tech. while most of 3rd world country actually using up the old tech such for the part exist. This is business afterall.  Unless you buy from oversea and import it yourself. CKD is the behind of all this.

check BMW F30 320d instead. 1st import batch inclusive Navi. CKD is without navi.
Merc C200 similar.
You all can fight all you want for the Camry. Did you review others cars?
Accord equip with Navi in oversea. here? none
VW passat oversea for park assist
K5 oversea got navi and also most of the engine were 2.0 GDI turbo.

summary,
you all feel ripe off? yes.
180k lack of 1 safety features but hell is still 180k car you can afford. Which oversea conversion = 60k which you can buy S class with income 1/3 of oversea    should be proud of yourself.
PS: for those will say Navi no important. try to check oversea demand of navi car. Is like regular must have features same like safety. If your car don't have navi, then they will said your car was in the 90's

just my 2cent. please don't hate me. I sense alot endless arguement here.

lets boikot for toyota for a period ...seems that toyota dun care of our consumer needs compare to Korean cars.

Btw, u only got the 2.5L because u knew the 2.0L was much worse off with its 10 year old gearbox and engine. You know darn well u dont need a 2.5L car but u still went ahead probably to add on the status factor. So let's not talk about pricing or affordability here.

I have a question for u. Whats all those cars mentioned at the bottom? Did you own all of them?