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 New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!

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IluvProton
post Jun 14 2012, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Jun 14 2012, 03:56 PM)
Even airbags won't helped at this speed.

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ouch....... pancake anyone? laugh.gif
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post Jun 14 2012, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(sleepy @ Jun 14 2012, 05:14 PM)
Fantastic. So means you would've chosen the Jazz over the Q7 biggrin.gif. Nice choice thumbup.gif

Btw I hope you realise that NCAP requirement changes from year to year. A Peugeot 407 obtained 5 stars in 2009, but by today's standards it would've gotten probably 4 stars or less if they were to re-evaluate it today. So stars varying from year to year is still "scientifically proven safer"?
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Well, I would like to comment.

NCAP is just a technique test of accident occur very directive.

which they never test speed exceed certain level.

eg. 40miles or 60 miles knock on wall. in real life. you might be facing some diff situation.

of course better safety features is better. you nvr know when you will need it. that why it call accident laugh.gif

we can't expect when it will happen
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post Jun 15 2012, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(vey99 @ Jun 15 2012, 04:49 PM)
To the buyers, its the passion of being practical laugh.gif
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post Jun 15 2012, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 15 2012, 05:02 PM)
That works too, so long as you happy can already. biggrin.gif
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true also. for me, even those price, comment, and etc. also depend individual look as well.

buy a car = looking for your love 1. laugh.gif

nvm buy a car you dont like, even it might be practical or so. you might end up changing it. 90% user does.
but at the end, do you ever love your ex-car brows.gif
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post Jun 16 2012, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Jun 16 2012, 05:14 AM)
cannot bro.. my mom ask me to keep her vios coz i just continue her monthly installment.. i dunno izzit good or bad for me  doh.gif
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bro dun worry, wait till your mom change other car then that time you can enjoice camry 2.5v liao.


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post Jun 17 2012, 01:51 PM

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just a camry and alot making fuzz about it.

wait till you see Honda Civic next month biggrin.gif
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post Jun 17 2012, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 17 2012, 12:32 PM)
Our petrol is so cheap? What are u comparing against? Our fuel is AMONG THE MOST EXPENSIVE IN THE WORLD if u compare dollar to dollar. We export our good quality fuel while we use the crap quality locally polluting our environment and endangering our lives more.

In Germany for instance, i was shocked to see diesel costing about E$1.40 while petrol (Euro 5) costs about E$1.60. If ure living there and earning in euros, thats quite cheap.
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if not mistaken, euro standard diesel is B5 or B10 hmm.gif
true also if compare car price.......instead comparing fuel price laugh.gif

our junior Engineer salary 3k ringgit = camry car price 182k = fuel 1.9 ringgit / liter

Euro junior engineer salary 3k euro = camry car price 28k euro = fuel 2.30 euro / gallon

brows.gif Amazing Local ppl buy alot car more than 100k

how long can we use extra 80k for fuel if without subsidise and also car without tax hmm.gif

let say we use 1k per month - 50% we current paying even subsidize = 160 months sweat.gif

hahahahaha......... the laugh still goes to government

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post Jun 17 2012, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo @ Jun 17 2012, 03:02 PM)
My neighbour bought the new Camry, and honestly, I like the design. And btw I'm not uncle
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your neighbour is uncle?
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post Jun 17 2012, 11:55 PM

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basically UWM trying to dispose all old engine from previous model hmm.gif
perhaps need to wait for replacement similar with Altis?

see the 1st batch the lastest altis was previous model engine as well hmm.gif

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post Jun 18 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 18 2012, 06:04 AM)
Fuel prices per litre as per 18/6/2012 around the APAC region

Singapore

95UL - 2SGD (RM5.00)
98UL - 2.1SGD (RM5.25)

Malaysia

95UL - RM1.90
97UL - RM2.80

Thailand

91UL - 34.78Baht (RM3.47)
95UL - 36.53Baht (RM3.65)

Indonesia

"Premium subsidized" 88 - 4500Rupiah (RM1.50) <- Bulk of the Indonesia population uses this grade from Pertamina
92UL - 8950Rupiah (RM3.00)
95UL - 9500Rupiah (RM3.20)

Philippines
95UL -55.00 Peso (RM12)

Taking Ron95 as the fuel standard, our fuels are still cheaper than the rest of the region.
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glad to be in malaysia laugh.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 18 2012, 04:26 PM

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FUIYO, from camry go to safety tok then now petrol tok.

why so serious?

no matter how high malaysia fuel price or how expensive the car.
still got ppl buy it.



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post Jun 18 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 18 2012, 11:45 AM)
I went for a test drive at VW earlier for the new Passat.

Comparatively speaking, the Passat interior is nicer. I love how the brush aluminium look compared to the faux wood panels. NVH is quite good also. The downside is the semi-electric seats compared to the fully electric seats found in the camry.

Another downside is the rear seats as well, the huge bump in the middle vs the flat panel floor of the Camry. The middle passenger will suffer. Materials and finishing is very good. Definitely feels more premium compared to the Japanese.

Interior space is definitely 1up for the Camry, the Passat still feels smaller in comparison. Even my wife says the same thing, the overall spaciousness is better in the Camry compared to the Passat.

Likes:

- Brake assist feature
- Hill hold feature
- Airbags, lots of them
- Premium feel
- Power. The engine feels very lively
- NVH feels good, certainly sounds quiet while on the go.

Dislikes:

- The CKD unit feels a bit creaky, there was some sound coming from the dashboard. I don't know if its because the car is a demo unit or something else
- The rear passenger middle bump. Although common in RWD, I really wish it was a little lower
- Rear luggage space is good, but I wish it had more depth instead of being more lengthy.

Definitely will take the new Camry later this week for a test drive and then decide where I plan to go from then
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I said already. I will 100% go for passat no time. brows.gif

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post Jun 18 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jun 18 2012, 06:27 PM)
You could (almost) just as well pay off a Passat. Resale value... maybe not 100% as good as the Camry, but I thought VW is picking up steam. I see more and more Tourans on the road, lots of Polo, Jetta and a few Passat. I think for a Conti it is doing quite well.
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ipoh got lots of passat coming. my house along the Goh motors road. today seeing 8 passats on delivery to their happy owner drool.gif


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post Jun 18 2012, 11:53 PM

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passat is cheaper than camry 10k wor?


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post Jun 19 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 19 2012, 05:38 AM)
No la, I was focused on the 2.0G spec version because the difference between that and the Passat about 20k. I decide on the car based on what I'm comfortable paying each month and the length of loan. For all intents and purposes, I consider the 2.0G version is great as a stop-gap measure because the loan is only 3 years and once the warranty is over, I can just move on to something better rather than take a lengthy 7 year loan if I were to buy say an Audi A4 or 3 series F10.

The 2.5V spec was never under my consideration because I simply do not think it's worth taking a 5 year loan for an overpriced under-specced car like that. And now I just realized, the 2.5V spec is only about 5k or so more expensive compared to the Passat.

In any case, I want to avoid taking a 5 year loan and instead keep it to 3 or 4. With the Passat or Camry 2.5V, I have to still stick to a 5 year loan if I don't want to top up my down payment.
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I was thinking the other way around. maybe add 20k more for current prius / k5 to get the passat hmm.gif

instead getting regret in 3-5 years time. brows.gif

4 years need repayment about 3.2k month hmm.gif quite tight for my income. kenot spend like before sad.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 01:46 PM

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i got altis 2006. but the quality is better built. just see the door side.
although i admit very unker design but last time built was better.
now altis more plastics inside sad.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Jun 19 2012, 08:58 AM)
My maximum is RM2200 per month. Not a penny more. I'm comfortable paying up to 4 years, ideally 3 and I don't want to go 5 if I can help it.

I went for a 2nd test drive with the Passat at Cergaz, my first drive was at FA Wagen. That dashboard creaking sound is still there ;(

Build quality issue or is it something else?
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hmm.gif test drove in ipoh. didn't notice. izzit loud?

QUOTE(kevin23 @ Jun 19 2012, 09:06 AM)
Get the new camry, saw it on the road and it looks awesome. The passat is a good car but in terms of uncle-ness, its worst than the camry and it has a very boring design.
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inside no uncle liao. laugh.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 05:54 PM

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I brainwash you now. take passat or u will regret
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post Jun 21 2012, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(NissanTeana @ Jun 21 2012, 02:05 PM)
Dude, don't ever buy something that you don't like or hate it so much, if you like Passat, just get it, don't care about the GB, like I like the Teana, and first scare the GB as well, but after getting the car, totally love it, no regret. Just go for it dude.
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cant agree more.

since the car are 100k. you will careless about resell value. others might in your consideration else.
if you like, just buy it.
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post Jun 22 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 22 2012, 03:30 AM)
Buy a car and sell within 3 years?  rclxub.gif Dont mean to rude bro, ure either very rich or you really have poor financial planning. Nobody sells cars <5 years as the drop in resale value is really high even for Toyota. And mind you these are D segment cars which do not enjoy good resale value compared to B & C segments.

But never try and convince yourself about a car. If you gut feel says this car isnt for you then dont buy it. But you gotta make sure your criteria is right first. Not everybody will have the same criteria but generally there are alot of similarities. For me safety, value for money, design and comfort are important. Then comes warranties and after sales service.

For me the Kia Optima K5 satifies most (if not all) the factors above. I spend alot of time researching cars long before a particular model is launched and after that i spent extensive time test driving. For your info, i test drove the Optima 9 times before buying.

You may have a different opinion but this is what i think anyway. Cheers!
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i also buy car and sell around 2-3 years. if car i like then i keep. dun like then i sell.

12 years i working been change 7 car liao sad.gif my marney gone but I r happy cause I like to drove new car biggrin.gif

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