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 Are property prices going to up further? V3

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AVFAN
post Nov 3 2011, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Nov 3 2011, 11:29 AM)
Price stagnant means depreciate in price when inflation kicks in. So if price stagnant for over 5 years, you can consider yourself a 30% discount. I always take the gomen figure of CPI x2 to be the real inflation figure.

yes, agree. if stganant for just 2 years, it's >10% discount.
if desperate seller gives 5% off, then it's 15% cheaper than today.
but that's the case only if you buy in 2 yrs time in the example, not buying now.
all about cost of capital.

that's why a good no. of people here say "no crash but stagnant price, maybe 5-10% drop".

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post Nov 15 2011, 06:26 PM

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my condo in mk area, can sell for 400k only getting 1.8k rental.
every 2 yrs, you hv no tenant for 6m. less all costs and tax, net yield abt 4%. fabulous hor?
bravo, lots of rich young people making >10K a mth...lots of expats ready to pay you, be pig-slaughtered...
i can tell you - in the next few yrs, majority of condo-serv apt-soho-sohai units will be in for a rude shock.

ok, except some very smart buggers here (with no soul wan... tongue.gif).

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post Nov 17 2011, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(KLsooner @ Nov 17 2011, 11:02 AM)
Do you know such a thing call 0% BT?

imagine if you have 10 cards with 45k credit each. I know a few expert who use BT to buy prop, it is a superb leverage tool provided you know how to manage the RISK.

If you dunno how to play with fire, stay away as far as you can.
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right... credit cards have a lot to do with prop gorenging - a significant contributor to the gorenging in the last 2 yrs...

many projects need 5 or 10% downpmt, then dibs... pay nothing until completetion. to goreng 5x200k or 2x500k or 1x1mil prop. all you do is swipe 2-4 cards 25k each. some even allow another 5-10% by installment over a yr or so.

some high risk takers use cards to goreng up to half a dozen, sell within 6m, get back 10% which is enough to pay off the cc debt, then roll over to another batch.

cash rich speculators my foot - all on debt wan - cc, overdraft, co. funds, fama bank... all of it!!
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post Nov 17 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 17 2011, 06:58 PM)
You guys new to the credit card sector ah? BT? i have 3 cards 15k each you go try get another new one when all 3 having maximum credit. See you can get it approve or not. Adding on, if you want cards with 15k credit limit you need ot have the earning capability before you even get it in the 1st place. You can try using 1 card swipe it 15k 1 go and next thing try to go apply for a new one. Come and tell me whether they  get approve or otherwise.

P/S: Even if th bank approve you will not be able to get 15k credit limit most likely you will be only getting 5k. Which happens to me previously. Been there done that. If you think it's as simple as that go ahead and do it. BT will be factor in as part of the credit which you have with the bank, and in the end you might not even get your loan being approve if you have high CC debts. You can do it to 1 or 2 unit if you like but having such CC debt you must have a steady income in the 1st place to begin with.


Added on November 17, 2011, 7:03 pm

Haha not too sure 30% or 20% but most ppl who can afford for 3rd home most likely will only need a minimum loan from the bank.
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people tell you facts, done it, yet you insist it's bs.
man, i wish you luck...
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post Nov 17 2011, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 17 2011, 07:14 PM)
FACTs? fact or speculating even on credit card? I've been there done that and i even remembering i pmed airline on personal loan to CLEAR my credit card debts because i need my credit card debts to be free from the 15k credit which i owe the bank. I tried applying and they only approve credit card with 5k credit limit to me, reason being i need to clear off my old credit card debt. I ended up using my companies AMEX credit card for my business travel.

THATS A FACT.
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you keep talking about yrself. you have not idea what others are doing!
it's not my loss if you insist on this. good luck, again.
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post Nov 17 2011, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 17 2011, 07:25 PM)
so do you even know what others are doing in the 1st place? You have not gone through that path and yet you wanted to comment as if you have done that. Those bullshit telling you that it's so easily done, have you TRIED it in the 1st place? Everyone here is talking about other, others and others. You see this guy how he laverage wah 10 credit card buy so many house sell. Another one come you see this guy borrow so much money ah this cover that that cover this. You guys are not only talking without facts, you do not even have such personal experience going through all these pain in the arse proceses. All you do is shooting point blank leading 1 sheep to a brain drain situation and 1 followed by another.

well, i did not say i did it or did not, we'll keep it that way.
forum is such - always some mystery... no one here is going to draw intestines for u.
i'll save my breath now. nice exchanging some pointers. biggrin.gif

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