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post Jun 28 2011, 01:09 AM, updated 15y ago

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Hi guys..

Im facing a hard time to choose between these 2 devices: SGS II vs Iphone 4

I have both in my hands, and i need to let go one.

I've been using iphone for quite sometime since i changed from DHD, so i knw ip4 quite well.
But the SGS II really tempted me, so i bought it. Been playing around with it, its really nice, but still doubt.


I knw many ppl here hv experience on both devices, so hope u all can share pros n cons to help me or maybe other ppl to decide.

Many thanks.

Edit:
Thanks guys for the replies. I added poll above.

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post Jun 28 2011, 01:19 AM

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pm me if you want to let go SGS II..tq
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iphone 4 for the cool apps !
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post Jun 28 2011, 02:47 AM

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Difficult to tell.. in terms of hardware n OS... i have an idea.. wait for Celcom.Axiata to comment tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pcboy @ Jun 28 2011, 02:47 AM)
Difficult to tell.. in terms of hardware n OS... i have an idea.. wait for Celcom.Axiata to comment tongue.gif
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LOL! i choose sgs2. let go iphone 4 and wait for iphone5. btw, if you are going to sell sgs2 pm me.
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pm me if wanna let go sgs2

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QUOTE(ic3joker @ Jun 28 2011, 02:50 AM)
LOL! i choose sgs2. let go iphone 4 and wait for iphone5. btw, if you are going to sell sgs2 pm me.
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i wuld say this too...let go of ip4... and if you have second though get the ip5 when it is out

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if money is not a problem

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well for cool/quality apps and don mind lack of customization then Iphone 4...
if you want better UI customization and experience SGS2...

both have its advantages... smile.gif

Android more free apps but sometimes u hate the adds, especially on wireless broadband it will load when you are using the apps or games...
Apple more quality apps but need to pay if u wanna use full function ones... pls don tell me about JB... hate it...
i got ipad, JB then load a huge amount of apps... but when u need to upgrade is a fruss... u need to reinstall every single thing... maybe i'm not advance enough but i still prefer android...
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Sell iPhone or get iPhone 4S/5 or iPad 2. I also sell my iPhone and get SGS2 because I alr own an iPad 2. So I can play cool apps and also enjoy the dual core processor. Lol! iPhone have more high second hand value =p
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even though i had answered this many times over.
if the mods are smart here, they shld pin my posts to avoid so many repeat questions.
but if it can help another human out there, why not?

1stly, ask urslf what is the use of smartphone 4 u other than the normal calling and sms?

both phones are expensive and you already have both.
why duncha try each out for one week and then decide?
nobody can really make the right choice.

for example, one of my staff is a android fanatic. started from magic and now sgs2.
she spends most of her life with the phone, doesn't join much with our social gatherings, stays at home other than coming to work.
she enjoys constantly changing themes to make android look different, always look forward to flashing custom ROMs from the internet.
she finds joy by 'discovering' new capabilities of her android each time she flashes it.
however, she needs to use another cheap nokia bcos some of the android phones that she bought are defective and spend time for rma, cannot reach her during rom flashing, etc.

she's a very good staff, knowledgeable and brought in good sales. in fact geeks money is easy to earn bcos of her.

unfortunately her father had died and she went back to Labu just after valentine's day.

now ppl like her can never understd the beauty and power of iphone. she can live with laggy interface, lack of apps, poor quality just bcos she can get the freedom to do all the nerdy stuffs that she want.

all the goodness and premium feel of iphone is meaningless to nerds/geeks.

so ask urslf, who u are...
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post Jun 28 2011, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 01:09 AM)
Hi guys..

Im facing a hard time to choose between these 2 devices: SGS II vs Iphone 4

I have both in my hands, and i need to let go one.

I've been using iphone for quite sometime since i changed from DHD, so i knw ip4 quite well.
But the SGS II really tempted me, so i bought it. Been playing around with it, its really nice, but still doubt.
I knw many ppl here hv experience on both devices, so hope u all can share pros n cons to help me or maybe other ppl to decide.

Many thanks.

Edit:
Thanks guys for the replies. I added poll above.
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Since you have already have SGSII and IP4 on hand, you should know which OS you prefer. If you still don't have a preference, it means you like both equally, then just toss a coin lah, or sell SGSII since it's in demand now.

QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 08:05 AM)
even though i had answered this many times over.
if the mods are smart here, they shld pin my posts to avoid so many repeat questions.
but if it can help another human out there, why not?

1stly, ask urslf what is the use of smartphone 4 u other than the normal calling and sms?

both phones are expensive and you already have both.
why duncha try each out for one week and then decide?
nobody can really make the right choice.

for example, one of my staff is a android fanatic. started from magic and now sgs2.
she spends most of her life with the phone, doesn't join much with our social gatherings, stays at home other than coming to work.
she enjoys constantly changing themes to make android look different, always look forward to flashing custom ROMs from the internet.
she finds joy by 'discovering' new capabilities of her android each time she flashes it.
however, she needs to use another cheap nokia bcos some of the android phones that she bought are defective and spend time for rma, cannot reach her during rom flashing, etc.

she's a very good staff, knowledgeable and brought in good sales. in fact geeks money is easy to earn bcos of her.

unfortunately her father had died and she went back to Labu just after valentine's day.

now ppl like her can never understd the beauty and power of iphone. she can live with laggy interface, lack of apps, poor quality just bcos she can get the freedom to do all the nerdy stuffs that she want.

all the goodness and premium feel of iphone is meaningless to nerds/geeks.

so ask urslf, who u are...
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She doesn't need to understand the 'beauty' and 'power' of iphone, becos she already found what she needs and wants. Same like some iphone users, they don't even know what Android is, they don't need to understand the 'beauty' and 'power' of android, becos iphone can already do what they want.

BTW, Android is not just for geeks, they're for normal people too. I highly doubt the 350,000 new Android phones activation per day are all done by geeks.
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 28 2011, 08:20 AM)
BTW, Android is not just for geeks, they're for normal people too.  I highly doubt the 350,000 new Android phones activation per day are all done by geeks.
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P.S. I voted for sgs2 so u can sell ur iphone. wink.gif


the 350k activations per day (is it arnd the world or just USA?) that u mentioned may be due to these reasons
1) by normal ppl or non-geeks who couldn't afford iphone. android is widely used in low end devices as well.

2) was influenced by geeky frens. ppl usually look for geeks to ask for advice on buying gadgets. unfortunately geeks are mostly fanboys so they couldn't offer a balanced viewpoint or considered that not all ppl are geeks.

3) high number of activation is bcos of many different ROM flashing by the same device?
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 08:32 AM)
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3) high number of activation is bcos of many different ROM flashing by the same device?
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aiyo, like that, iphone lg ramai

everytime update iOS kuar, have to sync to itunes to activate

lg gila babi rmai iphone activated, kah kah kah

its the serial number la bro, the warranty starts when they bought it, or use it --> aka activate it
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Let him said whatever he can... He's like the level of God. He's telling the truth of the world and his stuffs and talks are all flawless and perfect. That's why he's holy and clean like his signature tells you.

Ignore those geeks/nerds, etc.

Just a normal thing to share here although it's not important for a lot of people(Internet Browser Speed @ iPhone 4 vs SGS II):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dUk2QxMPGI&feature=share
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QUOTE(mogomogo @ Jun 28 2011, 07:43 AM)
Sell iPhone or get iPhone 4S/5 or iPad 2. I also sell my iPhone and get SGS2 because I alr own an iPad 2. So I can play cool apps and also enjoy the dual core processor. Lol! iPhone have more high second hand value =p
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haha... wah so much $$$ to play around with gadgets...

QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 08:05 AM)
even though i had answered this many times over.
if the mods are smart here, they shld pin my posts to avoid so many repeat questions.
but if it can help another human out there, why not?

1stly, ask urslf what is the use of smartphone 4 u other than the normal calling and sms?

both phones are expensive and you already have both.
why duncha try each out for one week and then decide?
nobody can really make the right choice.

for example, one of my staff is a android fanatic. started from magic and now sgs2.
she spends most of her life with the phone, doesn't join much with our social gatherings, stays at home other than coming to work.
she enjoys constantly changing themes to make android look different, always look forward to flashing custom ROMs from the internet.
she finds joy by 'discovering' new capabilities of her android each time she flashes it.
however, she needs to use another cheap nokia bcos some of the android phones that she bought are defective and spend time for rma, cannot reach her during rom flashing, etc.

she's a very good staff, knowledgeable and brought in good sales. in fact geeks money is easy to earn bcos of her.

unfortunately her father had died and she went back to Labu just after valentine's day.

now ppl like her can never understd the beauty and power of iphone. she can live with laggy interface, lack of apps, poor quality just bcos she can get the freedom to do all the nerdy stuffs that she want.

all the goodness and premium feel of iphone is meaningless to nerds/geeks.

so ask urslf, who u are...
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well say... i have Desire Z and Ipad... both have different capabilities...

both phones (or should i say most of the smartphone) did not suit my usage, coz mine is a lil heavy...
worst case i need 2 charge at 1 day for my desire Z, so car charger, battery or even portable charge is a needs... but Ipad just for entertainment and easy reading during home, office or even night "yum cha" session...
is actually very individual preference on gadget choosing...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jun 28 2011, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jun 28 2011, 08:38 AM)
aiyo, like that, iphone lg ramai

everytime update iOS kuar, have to sync to itunes to activate

lg gila babi rmai iphone activated, kah kah kah

its the serial number la bro, the warranty starts when they bought it, or use it --> aka activate it
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thats why it is important to find out how this 350,000 activations per day claim is actually calculated?
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iPong for those who wan a simple premium phone that just do it regardless if it is really good at it or bad ..... and ... wanna be an iFag ... whistling.gif

Android are for those who wanted a phone with a PC like feel ... fully customized for his own personal preferences .... thumbup.gif

In the end both are good ....but it just a matter of personal preferences ....If youre the one that want a phone that just works ... then Ipong
....Android are for those who wan more out of their phone ....

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If you like customation, fully freedom and open source go for android. You can change anything thing as you wish.
simple as that
Iphone no doubt its a good device and it change the world of smartphone. But since after iphone 3g.all I can said is he is just can't on par with android.their so cal new function already provide by android century ago.

A gf who can fullfill and match with you anytime & anywhere (Android)
A gf who you can still force her to fullfill you anytime& anywhere. But only one position no matter how hard you try lolz
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 08:32 AM)
3) high number of activation is bcos of many different ROM flashing by the same device?
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QUOTE(L3nnon @ Jun 28 2011, 08:55 AM)
If you like customation, fully freedom and open source go for android. You can change anything thing as you wish.
simple as that
Iphone no doubt its a good device and it change the world of smartphone. But since after iphone 3g.all I can said is he is just can't on par with android.their so cal new function already provide by android century ago.

A gf who can fullfill and match with you anytime & anywhere (Android)
A gf who you can still force her to fullfill you anytime& anywhere. But only one position no matter how hard you try lolz
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we also copy a lot of stuff from them too... tongue.gif

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post Jun 28 2011, 09:13 AM

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I used to have IP4 twice. Let me say this, android is far better.
Get SGS2, I am buying that as well and I am also using few android now.

If you miss your IP4, just get Ipad 2 later on. Its a good balance of both.
IP4 is too small, too boring and if you buy some good android, most of the customization is already there.


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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 08:05 AM)
even though i had answered this many times over.
if the mods are smart here, they shld pin my posts to avoid so many repeat questions.
but if it can help another human out there, why not?

1stly, ask urslf what is the use of smartphone 4 u other than the normal calling and sms?

both phones are expensive and you already have both.
why duncha try each out for one week and then decide?
nobody can really make the right choice.

for example, one of my staff is a android fanatic. started from magic and now sgs2.
she spends most of her life with the phone, doesn't join much with our social gatherings, stays at home other than coming to work.
she enjoys constantly changing themes to make android look different, always look forward to flashing custom ROMs from the internet.
she finds joy by 'discovering' new capabilities of her android each time she flashes it.
however, she needs to use another cheap nokia bcos some of the android phones that she bought are defective and spend time for rma, cannot reach her during rom flashing, etc.

she's a very good staff, knowledgeable and brought in good sales. in fact geeks money is easy to earn bcos of her.

unfortunately her father had died and she went back to Labu just after valentine's day.

now ppl like her can never understd the beauty and power of iphone. she can live with laggy interface, lack of apps, poor quality just bcos she can get the freedom to do all the nerdy stuffs that she want.

all the goodness and premium feel of iphone is meaningless to nerds/geeks.

so ask urslf, who u are...
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 08:32 AM)
P.S. I voted for sgs2 so u can sell ur iphone.  wink.gif
the 350k activations per day (is it arnd the world or just USA?) that u mentioned may be due to these reasons
1) by normal ppl or non-geeks who couldn't afford iphone. android is widely used in low end devices as well.

2) was influenced by geeky frens. ppl usually look for geeks to ask for advice on buying gadgets. unfortunately geeks are mostly fanboys so they couldn't offer a balanced viewpoint or considered that not all ppl are geeks.

3) high number of activation is bcos of many different ROM flashing by the same device?
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1) Yes, true, many people are turned off by the 2K+ price tag. Imagine there's an iPhone Mini at 1.2k, iPhone sales will at least triple.

2) Android buyers influenced by geeky friends... it's the same as iPhone buyers, also influenced by friends, not to mention marketing, and handphone shop sellers biggrin.gif

Actually, I believe many geeks like iPhone as well. It's a no-fuss phone... like Steve Jobs says, it simply works! Easier for consumers and app development... if Apple doesn't copy your ideas (notification) or screw you (30% cut on publications).
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their marketing strategy is good... slowly push out the stock to make you anxious to wait... !!!
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Post this poll at iPhone thread you will see completely differentvote pattern
I have use all the ipnone series and many other androidsboth has pro n cons
Ask yourself which meet your needs better not your wants . Don't be influenced by diehard androiders or diehard ifags

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good statement... just use as per your individual preference... smile.gif
i try Iphone interface with my droid... really cannot use to it... but Ipad ok ok la... no call mah...

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Wah! u so rich man! iphone + DHD + SGS2
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well if its SGS vs IP4 you can have two minds there

but if its SGS2 its way too obvious isnt it?

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Iphone 4 i would say its a fancy gadget. Personally, I would prefer SGS 2.
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Every once in a while this kind of topic will appear. Practically speaking in terms of raw power of hardware specifications, everyone knows the clear winner. I'm not going deeper into that, since there are many manufacturers out there using Android as their OS in many of their devices at various range of smart phones, while iPhone, there's only one manufacturer.

This brings up an interesting case, the features. My personal opinion, the latest iOS 5, is barely on par with stock Eclair released in 2009. I'm not blatantly siding with Android, but sorry, every time Apple announces something new, I just smirk while thinking shouldn't they have done this sooner? New iOS features is not so new for someone who uses both phones you know smile.gif

AppStore and Market, I like both. In one place, you can get quality items in controlled market, while in the other free market, you may find shitty apps, but you may also find exceptional apps. Take your pick.

Often enough I hear people say, iPhone equals to simplicity, Android if you want freedom. To me it can be both. Android is simple enough by default, and iPhone is not as simple as most people think to newbie, imagine the hassle of transferring file, hint: iTune. Same goes to Android, the need to create specific folders can be troublesome to new users.

SGS2 vs iP4 hardware specs, I don't need to elaborate further.

So it's like:

Hardware : SGS2 1, iP4 0
OS features : SGS2 1, iP4 0
Apps : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
User friendliness : SGS 2 1, iP4 1

Looks like SGS2 4, iP4 2 to me.

Note that I have Android and iOS phones smile.gif
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SGS vs iP4 = iP4 better

SGS II vs iP4 = SGS II wins becoz DUAL CORE processor, period.

SGS II vs iP5 = haha we will know soon
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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jun 28 2011, 09:58 AM)

This brings up an interesting case, the features. My personal opinion, the latest iOS 5, is barely on par with stock Eclair released in 2009. I'm not blatantly siding with Android, but sorry, every time Apple announces something new, I just smirk while thinking shouldn't they have done this sooner? New iOS features is not so new for someone who uses both phones you know smile.gif


SGS2 vs iP4 hardware specs, I don't need to elaborate further.

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it's one thing to pack every feature but whether the user will get good experience is another different thing.
up til gingerbread with dual proc, all android phones is still laggy and doesn't offer smooth experience.
maybe it needs quad procs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 10:29 AM)
it's one thing to pack every feature but whether the user will get good experience is another different thing.
up til gingerbread with dual proc, all android phones is still laggy and doesn't offer smooth experience.
maybe it needs quad procs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Or maybe, you just need to finally get your hands on SGS2 and try it. wink.gif
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what is this geeky stuff?? no la...android is just far more superior versatile and flexible. even the support forum is wide and big.
iphone 4 is just TRYING TO SELL. lol
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Jun 28 2011, 10:32 AM)
Or maybe, you just need to finally get your hands on SGS2 and try it. wink.gif
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Well I gave up iPhone4 in just one month but my other androids I use averaging 3-6 months. One month on iPhone4 enough to convince me to rest it. This based on my needs. The only androids i use about 1 month or less are sgs n xperia arc, both are just duds I must say
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 10:29 AM)
it's one thing to pack every feature but whether the user will get good experience is another different thing.
up til gingerbread with dual proc, all android phones is still laggy and doesn't offer smooth experience.
maybe it needs quad procs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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This is where one great advantage of Android comes into play, custom ROM smile.gif Most custom ROMs are geared towards eliminating or tremendously reducing slowdowns or jerkiness, while for iPhone users, it's good it's smooth by default. And you know what comes with totally unrestricted development that can be done by anyone? Rapid innovation, that's one of the reasons why Android features far surpass that of iPhone, not by months, but years ahead. For Iphone 4, it's like you have to live in the house given to you, but for Android, you may not have to live in the house, but who says it's a bad thing?

For the same price range, I would get a phone that is tangibly superior in hardware and features since personal values towards a phone is.... personal smile.gif I'm not getting on my high horse, but admit it, Market is at least as good as AppStore, if not more 'interesting' smile.gif
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For me is you want ready to use phone that beauty, funtionality and easy to use. Better phone that IP4? Get Arc as I dont user SGS2 yet. It has it all except for dual core.

I will experience SGS2 soon and hope I wont regret it and go back to Arc again.

Yes, I have use 2 IP4 and 1 3GS, arc, ideos x5 3, x10 2, x8 1, Galaxy I7500 1.


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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 10:29 AM)
it's one thing to pack every feature but whether the user will get good experience is another different thing.
up til gingerbread with dual proc, all android phones is still laggy and doesn't offer smooth experience.
maybe it needs quad procs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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i agree... Iphone is for really simplicity user, the smoothness is really great... android no matter what you will not that smoothness... even on CM7 i also felt a lil lag sometime... maybe as you said u need good amount of processor, RAM and ROM to run it...

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 28 2011, 11:53 AM)
i agree... Iphone is for really simplicity user, the smoothness is really great... android no matter what you will not that smoothness... even on CM7 i also felt a lil lag sometime...
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well... u see how lo... but i really felt the smoothness still need to improve on Android...
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iPhone is still the most smooth touch screen phone in the world. No one can replace it. Lol.

Really depend on yourself. Just get an iPad if u selling ur iPhone 4. if not u sell ur SGS2 and keep the cash for shopping with your girlfriend or your mom. Haha!


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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 28 2011, 08:42 AM)
haha... wah so much $$$ to play around with gadgets...
well say... i have Desire Z and Ipad... both have different capabilities...

both phones (or should i say most of the smartphone) did not suit my usage, coz mine is a lil heavy...
worst case i need 2 charge at 1 day for my desire Z, so car charger, battery or even portable charge is a needs... but Ipad just for entertainment and easy reading during home, office or even night "yum cha" session...
is actually very individual preference on gadget choosing...
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Lol. No different. U also a lot of money to play around with your gadgets. Haha! tongue.gif
Seriously. One phone won't perfectly match you. U can get more than one and try to fulfill what you need.


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for now the question is which OS u preferred? dun even try to compare ip4 and sgs2 specs to justify ur purchase. these 2 models are from different time period. and btw, ip5 is coming out soon this year

in short, do u like simple interface? or do u like to customize everything? if u r lazy and normally go with stock options, take ip4. else take sgs2 for customization. just my 2cents
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 28 2011, 11:06 AM)
well... u see how lo... but i really felt the smoothness still need to improve on Android...
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so far after testing my brother's SGS2 for 2 weeks,
I find that its already pretty silky smooth,
what to be improved on is the transition animation, and overall UI for better user experience.

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for me ... our corporate plan for rm85/mth (2 years), android phones need to pay rm800-rm1200, but iphone4 comes free. literally 95% of the desks you will see got 1 or more iP4's.
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in this thread just like android vs iOS ~
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QUOTE(Frostlord @ Jun 28 2011, 11:16 AM)
for now the question is which OS u preferred? dun even try to compare ip4 and sgs2 specs to justify ur purchase. these 2 models are from different time period. and btw, ip5 is coming out soon this year

in short, do u like simple interface? or do u like to customize everything? if u r lazy and normally go with stock options, take ip4. else take sgs2 for customization. just my 2cents
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Personal Opinion :-

Hardware : SGS2 1, iP4 1
OS features : SGS2 1, iP4 1
Apps : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
User friendliness : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
Build Up unit :SGS 2 0, iP4 1

Except the Build Up unit (outlook) = Ip4 Win both hands smile.gif
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 28 2011, 10:53 AM)
i agree... Iphone is for really simplicity user, the smoothness is really great... android no matter what you will not that smoothness... even on CM7 i also felt a lil lag sometime... maybe as you said u need good amount of processor, RAM and ROM to run it...
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QUOTE(weileong @ Jun 28 2011, 12:43 PM)
Personal Opinion :-

Hardware : SGS2 1, iP4 1
OS features : SGS2 1, iP4 1
Apps : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
User friendliness : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
Build Up unit :SGS 2 0, iP4 1

Except the Build Up unit (outlook) = Ip4 Win both hands  smile.gif
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Hardware SGS1 IP4 1?
Screen size difference and with dual core, and also 8MP camera?
I can easily disagree in that.
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QUOTE(weileong @ Jun 28 2011, 11:43 AM)
Personal Opinion :-

Hardware : SGS2 1, iP4 1
OS features : SGS2 1, iP4 1
Apps : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
User friendliness : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
Build Up unit :SGS 2 0, iP4 1

Except the Build Up unit (outlook) = Ip4 Win both hands  smile.gif
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thanks guys for the replies. notworthy.gif

well, i just bought the SGS II and playing around with it. while my iphone 4 sit in my desk. i used ip4 for several months, so in my opinion: ip4 serves me well, adequate in everything, not to mention smoothness that just ease my minds everytime. biggrin.gif

but im not really into "simplicity".. i like customizations.. i used android for couple years before, since HTC HD1, till DHD.. experimenting on ROMs was fun.. even when using ip4, i tried to customize it the way i like, by using custom themes at least, and some tweaks (opppss accidentally mentioned a bit about JB which is prohibited in LYN.. tongue.gif sorry mods )

but, WIDGETS. this is what we will never have on iphone! i really like the idea of having widget on the phone screen. its tiring sometimes if we need to launch each of the applications in order just want to view a bit infos on it. but with widget, we can just quickly peep on the apps contents. especially, Emails, Social Networks, News and etc.. Personal Organizer especially! i want an organizer that is always on screen which i can always simply tap on, view and edit.

here, im not intended to compare merely on raw power of these devices, neither to compare between Android and iOS at the fundamental basis. coz i know they are different physically. what bugs me is the features and capability of these phones.

My current notes and experience on my SGS II are:
- adequately smooth, but i feel a very bit "weight" sometime somehow.. very hard to justify this. no obvious lag, but i just feels it. knowing its a dual core device, hmmm...
- Market.... i left Android for quite sometime.. so im not sure for now. but i really hope i can find my needs in Market.
- web browsing experience: honestly speaking, the stock browser let me down. so i downloaded Opera, seems good. but then, i realized retina display stands out than this Super Amoled plus. when i tried to browse web in full desktop view, the small characters and fonts seems to be distorted, unless i zoom in a bit. but i never see that on ip4, everything seems clear. but Super Amoled plus seems rich in colours, very bright, and at a glance, its a very beautiful display.
- i love Live wallpaper! and i love realtime news and weather update on my screen, email widget, organizer, photo frame. thumbup.gif

i'm still exploring the SGS II. but 1 very strong advantage for the SGS II now is:

PRICE. Compare to the price of my Iphone 4 32gb............ sweat.gif sweat.gif huge different. my initial suggestion especially for those with budget limitation- get an SGS II, its good enough, and valuable for yr pocket. thumbup.gif (and i managed to found a 16gb microsd from within my desk, thus now i have 32gb storage too for my SGS II.. hehe.. honestly, 16gb is tight)

but for me, im still rclxub.gif to choose for now... i wish i can keep both, but... not worth to have 2 phones at a time.. 1 is enough.. if i can combine them, than thats good. LOL

well guys, keep on giving your opinions. thanks

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 12:27 PM)
but, WIDGETS.  this is what we will never have on iphone! i really like the idea of having widget on the phone screen. its tiring sometimes if we need to launch each of the applications in order just want to view a bit infos on it. but with widget, we can just quickly peep on the apps contents. especially, Emails, Social Networks, News and etc.. Personal Organizer especially! i want an organizer that is always on screen which i can always simply tap on, view and edit.
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Behold, the next 'breakthrough' that will revolutionize the mobile world by Apple! laugh.gif

I'm only impressed by the smoothness in iPhone, other factors, they are more or less the same in Android generally. Gaming, surfing and multimedia wise, SGS2 beats iP4 hands down.
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In SGS, there's a Voodoo sharpness fix that will make text crisper in the web browser. I'm not sure about SGS II custom kernels but you can request for this feature.

However, I'm not sure how it will compare with IP4's retina display. Probably someone that have both devices can comment on it.

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Android has the better OS and freedom of customization; iPhone has the better apps/UI consistency.

You decide.

P/S: Still can't believe people are responding to celcom.axiata. The guy's a one-minded troll.


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P/S: Still can't believe people are responding to celcom.axiata. The guy's a one-minded troll.
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It gets the message across, be it a troll so future viewers who view this thread get the details.
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Hi there.

For me, I will choose SG2. Why? I love to 'upgrade' 'downgrade' my phone. I love to tweak this and that. So, yes Sg2 seems to be a good choice for me.

Iphone 4. All my relatives are using it. Honestly, it is one hell of a phone. Iphone 4 will always be great. Hands down.

At time point, I will say iPhone 4 is better than SG2.

So, choose which ever you felt most comfortable with. End of the day, you must be happy with the phone.

Summary:
SG2: Modify phone (like modifying cars)
iPhone 4: The phone is already great by itself. No need any changes smile.gif
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QUOTE(nicregi @ Jun 28 2011, 12:54 PM)
Hi there.

For me, I will choose SG2. Why? I love to 'upgrade' 'downgrade' my phone. I love to tweak this and that. So, yes Sg2 seems to be a good choice for me.

Iphone 4. All my relatives are using it. Honestly, it is one hell of a phone. Iphone 4 will always be great. Hands down.

At time point, I will say iPhone 4 is better than SG2.

So, choose which ever you felt most comfortable with. End of the day, you must be happy with the phone.

Summary:
SG2: Modify phone (like modifying cars)
iPhone 4: The phone is already great by itself. No need any changes smile.gif
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get ur drift. for car enthusiasts,

ip4 - mercedes S-Class
sgs 2 - satria GTi
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QUOTE(weileong @ Jun 28 2011, 11:43 AM)
Personal Opinion :-

Hardware : SGS2 1, iP4 1
OS features : SGS2 1, iP4 1
Apps : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
User friendliness : SGS 2 1, iP4 1
Build Up unit :SGS 2 0, iP4 1

Except the Build Up unit (outlook) = Ip4 Win both hands  smile.gif
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dude, people are comparing SGS2 against iP4, not your SGS.

if you're basing your verdict on SGS vs iP4, then its agreeable.
but SGS2 vs iP4, if that's your verdict, then doh.gif
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Jun 28 2011, 01:10 PM)
dude, people are comparing SGS2 against iP4, not your SGS.

if you're basing your verdict on SGS vs iP4, then its agreeable.
but SGS2 vs iP4, if that's your verdict, then doh.gif
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this is others judgement and feelings.
each person is unique and special.

why u need to judge? are u supposed to? are you god?

instead of posting like that, give ur own opinions-ler.

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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 01:13 PM)
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this is others judgement and feelings.
each person is unique and special.

why u need to judge? are u supposed to? are you god?

instead of posting like that, give ur own opinions-ler.

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read what you post, and apply it to yourself. wink.gif
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 28 2011, 12:12 PM)
Ya that is my main reason buying ip4, smooth, friendly and stable, when i need a hand phone ro make call ip4 serve better. . . . .
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Err.....aren't these things supposed to do one basic thing well? Like strong signal reception, clear voice etc when near fringe area? I have a friend with IP4 and he does say it's a bit weak in this area.

But one thing for sure, IP4 sure look more sexy.

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apparently Iphone users always stand up (or should say stand down) that iphone uses their own OS, rather than others use android (not their own) ahahaha what a lame reasoning.

like others,
iphone is just a fancy, overrated and overpriced phone.

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Dear TS, here's my opinion:

1) firstly, iP4 hardware cannot compare with SGS2. SGS2 will gun down iP4 like how a 12 ton lorry crash a Kancil. SGS2 is more or less similar to iP5.

2) 2ndly, iP4 software cannot compare with iOS because iOS is 2 simple with nothing but icons unlike Android where we can have 4D app drawers, sexy widgets and all that.

3) 3rdly, iP4 retails at RM2030 cheapest where as SGS2 retails at RM1990 cheapest. (refer to 1st point)

4) with SGS2, virtually anything can be done vs ip4 which lags to sh1t when u play around with Dreamboard.

5) if you dun understand what I written above plz stick with your iPhone because it matches your simple mind. icon_idea.gif

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do you guys really use widgets ?
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sell the sgs2
coz no matter how much you customize .. still you cant show other beside taking screen shot and post it in lowyat to show the geeks ..

dont step in lowyat android section .. its heavy poison here
ur life will be much different if u never visit here and brain wash by the geek

dont post this poll in android section .. you should try post in both android and iphone to get an fair and equal answer
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 01:09 PM)
get ur drift. for car enthusiasts,

ip4 - mercedes S-Class
sgs 2 - satria GTi
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ip4 = mercedes S-Class with 3000cc

sgs 2 = satria GTI with 6000cc

dual core vs single core = unfair!


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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 02:10 PM)
Dear TS, here's my opinion:

1) firstly, iP4 hardware cannot compare with SGS2. SGS2 will gun down iP4 like how a 12 ton lorry crash a Kancil. SGS2 is more or less similar to iP5.

2) 2ndly, iP4 software cannot compare with iOS because iOS is 2 simple with nothing but icons unlike Android where we can have 4D app drawers, sexy widgets and all that.

3) 3rdly, iP4 retails at RM2030 cheapest where as SGS2 retails at RM1990 cheapest. (refer to 1st point)

4) with SGS2, virtually anything can be done vs ip4 which lags to sh1t when u play around with Dreamboard.

5) if you dun understand what I written above plz stick with your iPhone because it matches your simple mind. icon_idea.gif
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in my last post:

QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 12:27 PM)
thanks guys for the replies.  notworthy.gif

well, i just bought the SGS II and playing around with it. while my iphone 4 sit in my desk. i used ip4 for several months, so in my opinion: ip4 serves me well, adequate in everything, not to mention smoothness that just ease my minds everytime.  biggrin.gif 

but im not really into "simplicity".. i like customizations.. i used android for couple years before, since HTC HD1, till DHD.. experimenting on ROMs was fun.. even when using ip4, i tried to customize it the way i like, by using custom themes at least, and some tweaks (opppss accidentally  mentioned a bit about JB which is prohibited in LYN..  tongue.gif sorry mods )

but, WIDGETS.  this is what we will never have on iphone! i really like the idea of having widget on the phone screen. its tiring sometimes if we need to launch each of the applications in order just want to view a bit infos on it. but with widget, we can just quickly peep on the apps contents. especially, Emails, Social Networks, News and etc.. Personal Organizer especially! i want an organizer that is always on screen which i can always simply tap on, view and edit.

here, im not intended to compare merely on raw power of these devices, neither to compare between Android and iOS at the fundamental basis. coz i know they are different physically. what bugs me is the features and capability of these phones.

My current notes and experience on my SGS II are:
- adequately smooth, but i feel a very bit "weight" sometime somehow.. very hard to justify this. no obvious lag, but i just feels it. knowing its a dual core device, hmmm...
- Market.... i left Android for quite sometime.. so im not sure for now. but i really hope i can find my needs in Market.
- web browsing experience: honestly speaking, the stock browser let me down. so i downloaded Opera, seems good. but then, i realized retina display stands out than this Super Amoled plus. when i tried to browse web in full desktop view, the small characters and fonts seems to be distorted, unless i zoom in a bit. but i never see that on ip4, everything seems clear. but Super Amoled plus seems rich in colours, very bright, and at a glance, its a very beautiful display.
- i love Live wallpaper! and i love realtime news and weather update on my screen, email widget, organizer, photo frame.  thumbup.gif

i'm still exploring the SGS II. but 1 very strong advantage for the SGS II now is:

PRICE. Compare to the price of my Iphone 4 32gb............   sweat.gif  sweat.gif  huge different. my initial suggestion especially for those with budget limitation- get an SGS II, its good enough, and valuable for yr pocket.  thumbup.gif  (and i managed to found a 16gb microsd from within my desk, thus now i have 32gb storage too for my SGS II.. hehe.. honestly, 16gb is tight)

but for me, im still  rclxub.gif  to choose for now... i wish i can keep both, but... not worth to have 2 phones at a time.. 1 is enough.. if i can combine them, than thats good. LOL 

well guys, keep on giving your opinions. thanks
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QUOTE(stevenX @ Jun 28 2011, 02:27 PM)
sell the sgs2
coz no matter how much you customize .. still you cant show other beside taking screen shot and post it in lowyat to show the geeks ..

dont step in lowyat android section .. its heavy poison here
ur life will be much different if u never visit here and brain wash by the geek

dont post this poll in android section .. you should try post in both android and iphone to get an fair and equal answer
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can i cross-post between 2 sections meh? i dun think mods allowed that.

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My opinion..
Since you already use the IP4, why don't you let go the IP4?
Save the money and later get IP5, if it's released this September (hope so)..
Explore the Android OS..
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80% voted for SGS II.

Biased? due to this thread is in Android section?

but i believe most ppl here have tried both devices.

rclxub.gif rclxub.gif i still need time to decide. for now, i still dun have strong factors to keep my SGS II. maybe i expected a bit too much from the dual-core SGS II?

before i got this phone, i was really hope SGS II will be a winner for me, and beat ip4 like i dun have to think twice. haha.. but apparently, not that easy.. well, explore.. explore.. explore.. experiment.... cool2.gif

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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Jun 28 2011, 02:24 PM)
do you guys really use widgets ?
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 02:45 PM)
80% voted for SGS II.

Biased? due to this thread is in Android section?

but i believe most ppl here have tried both devices.

rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  i still need time to decide. for now, i still dun have strong factors to keep my SGS II. maybe i expected a bit too much from the dual-core SGS II?

before i got this phone, i was really hope SGS II will be a winner for me, and beat ip4 like i dun have to think twice. haha.. but apparently, not that easy.. well, explore.. explore.. explore.. experiment....  cool2.gif
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plis do that. this is no cheap stuff we're talking about laugh.gif


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QUOTE(iceman31 @ Jun 28 2011, 02:24 PM)
do you guys really use widgets ?
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do you know what is a widget? hmm.gif


QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 02:28 PM)
in my last post:
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 02:45 PM)
before i got this phone, i was really hope SGS II will be a winner for me, and beat ip4 like i dun have to think twice. haha.. but apparently, not that easy.. well, explore.. explore.. explore.. experiment....  cool2.gif
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if you understand all that you will know SGS2 is the clear choice hands down becuz u can make it simple and lag free with customizations. You can also make it super sexy especially when some friends see how fast you can open up a camera app without browsing through a wall of icons or some fancy weather animations when you unlock your phone. There's also this LWP which are basically background bubbles on your normal wallpaper which serves as a 2ndary notification.

With ip4 you are stuck with what you get and yet have to pay extra for it. laugh.gif
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iceman31 don't know widget..KESIANNNN rclxub.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(devilish_yin @ Jun 28 2011, 08:54 AM)
iPong for those who wan a simple premium phone that just do it regardless if it is really good at it or bad ..... and ... wanna be an iFag ... whistling.gif

Android are for those who wanted a phone with a PC like feel ... fully customized for his own personal preferences .... thumbup.gif

In the end both are good ....but it just a matter of personal preferences ....If youre the one that want a phone that just works ... then Ipong
....Android are for those who wan more out of their phone ....
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Android are for people who want more out of the phone but actually achieve less. They spend more time customising their phone and less time actually using it for productive purpose.

Any hardware is only as good as the software that runs on it. If you want to experience great software, iPong's iTune store is the only place you will not be disappointed and that Android fanboys are jealous of and never admit it.

In the end Apple iPong is a simple devices and "It just Works".


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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 03:13 PM)
do you know what is a widget? hmm.gif
if you understand all that you will know SGS2 is the clear choice hands down becuz u can make it simple and lag free with customizations. You can also make it super sexy especially when some friends see how fast you can open up a camera app without browsing through a wall of icons or some fancy weather animations when you unlock your phone. There's also this LWP which are basically background bubbles on your normal wallpaper which serves as a 2ndary notification.

With ip4 you are stuck with what you get and yet have to pay extra for it. laugh.gif
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All Android user can say is how cool their phones customisation look. Now that is not a bad thing, but when it comes to actual apps, they kind of quiet down.

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My dear friend..please do the right thing and let go the iphone 4.. hehe.. if ur planning to keep for good. keep the SGS2..if ur planning to sell off the hp u want to keep later in the future..keep the iphone..

Performance wise..SGS2 hands down.
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 04:13 PM)
do you know what is a widget? hmm.gif
if you understand all that you will know SGS2 is the clear choice hands down becuz u can make it simple and lag free with customizations. You can also make it super sexy especially when some friends see how fast you can open up a camera app without browsing through a wall of icons or some fancy weather animations when you unlock your phone. There's also this LWP which are basically background bubbles on your normal wallpaper which serves as a 2ndary notification.

With ip4 you are stuck with what you get and yet have to pay extra for it. laugh.gif
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It's not fair to compare the tech specs of the iPhone 4 to the SGS2 because it's pretty irrelevant. Tech specs don't mean a thing to user experience. It's how the software is utilising the hardware that is important. It's simply feeding firepower for iPhone 4 to win against non-SGS2 phones because frankly the iPhone browser has smoother scrolling than the HTC Sensation (or any non-SGS2 phone out there), period.

In the end of the day, all disputes whether a certain Android phone is better than the all mighty holy iPhone comes down to whether one prefers the Android ecosystem, or the iOS. It almost always never deviates from it.


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my friend who use ios sure will support ios said that , ios very fast , android lag ,bla bla bla. : )

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It's quite a sad thing to know that when an iPhone4 user tries to "How Lian" the stuff against a Galaxy S.

First of all, one needs to understand that the Galaxy S (not even S2 - which is so much more powerful) in terms of hardware, is superior than the iPhone4.
Galaxy S, running on an ARM A8-Cortex 1Ghz CPU and a PowerVR SGX540 GPU [bundled as the Hummingbird SoC] vs. the iPhone4, which has the same CPU but an older GPU (PowerVR SGX535 - used in the 3GS) [bundled as the Apple A4 SoC].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...5&idPhone2=3115

Secondly, you gotta understand Samsung manufactured these chipsets, so their not gonna be fools to release an inferior model for their own products.

Retina display is fancy - In Plane Switching display with a high resolution display over a 3.5" screen that eventually ends up being more of a white elephant as higher res applications end up consuming more memory and processing; is it necessary for a device of this class?)

In terms of application dev and support - iOS has a bigger base and comes out with their apps ahead of their Android counterparts. This is caused by the open source of Android development ~ allowing other devs to come out with "similar" games with a slight twist in naming. Due to this, development is primarily focused over iOS than Android, since revenue security is assured.
Nevertheless, Android is catching up on this as most popular apps have been ported within a few months of release.

Personally, I would opt for Android since is a fast-maturing OS that offers flexibility; unlike iOS which is a GtG, out-of-the-box solution, which doesn't promise any big improvements in smart phone advancements as it has likely reached it's peak of development.

PS:- Many wonder why iPhone is more "smoother" than Android. Some may have realized the "Illusions" put up from Transition Effects (thus masking load and response times). No one really knows that, the actual load time taken may, infact, be longer than Galaxy S or similar phones.
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haha quiet true... android apps now is not as strong as apple... but in the future who knows...
BTW not all ppl like to tweak and turn their home screen daily... that is geek or some one really rubbish that nothing to do...

a lot ppl in the whole world is bias to their believe so take it lightly...
just trust your own sense and choose which ever you prefer...

i thought of sell off the Ipad 1 also.... hmmm duno can sell or not... don like the part where you need to buy apps to get full version... don tell me JB... as i hate it... just you you are developing something and ppl steal it from you... furthermore i prefer stock, really hope tat i can get nice offer, then i make a decision to sell or not...
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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Jun 28 2011, 03:34 PM)
It's quite a sad thing to know that when an iPhone4 user tries to "How Lian" the stuff against a Galaxy S.

First of all, one needs to understand that the Galaxy S (not even S2 - which is so much more powerful) in terms of hardware, is superior than the iPhone4.
Galaxy S, running on an ARM A8-Cortex 1Ghz CPU and a PowerVR SGX540 GPU [bundled as the Hummingbird SoC] vs. the iPhone4, which has the same CPU but an older GPU (PowerVR SGX535 - used in the 3GS) [bundled as the Apple A4 SoC].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...5&idPhone2=3115

Secondly, you gotta understand Samsung manufactured these chipsets, so their not gonna be fools to release an inferior model for their own products.

Retina display is fancy - In Plane Switching display with a high resolution display over a 3.5" screen that eventually ends up being more of a white elephant as higher res applications end up consuming more memory and processing; is it necessary for a device of this class?)

In terms of application dev and support - iOS has a bigger base and comes out with their apps ahead of their Android counterparts. This is caused by the open source of Android development ~ allowing other devs to come out with "similar" games with a slight twist in naming. Due to this, development is primarily focused over iOS than Android, since revenue security is assured.
Nevertheless, Android is catching up on this as most popular apps have been ported within a few months of release.

Personally, I would opt for Android since is a fast-maturing OS that offers flexibility; unlike iOS which is a GtG, out-of-the-box solution, which doesn't promise any big improvements in smart phone advancements as it has likely reached it's peak of development.

PS:- Many wonder why iPhone is more "smoother" than Android. Some may have realized the "Illusions" put up from Transition Effects (thus masking load and response times). No one really knows that, the actual load time taken may, infact, be longer than Galaxy S or similar phones.
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I have the SGS and out of the box it lag like hell. GPS not working, blah blah blah Better hardware? So what if the software is poor.

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jun 28 2011, 03:32 PM)
It's not fair to compare the tech specs of the iPhone 4 to the SGS2 because it's pretty irrelevant. Tech specs don't mean a thing to user experience. It's how the software is utilising the hardware that is important. It's simply feeding firepower for iPhone 4 to win against non-SGS2 phones because frankly the iPhone browser has smoother scrolling than the HTC Sensation (or any non-SGS2 phone out there), period.

In the end of the day, all disputes whether a certain Android phone is better than the all mighty holy iPhone comes down to whether one prefers the Android ecosystem, or the iOS. It almost always never deviates from it.
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very true bro..

i'm more concerns to user experience, not to compare specs. coz its physically unfair..

for its quite amazing tho, ip4 smoothness is comparable (if not better) than the dual-core SGS II. not obvious, but if u feeeellllsss it, u will kinda notice. blush.gif but yeah, maybe due to the widgets and animations on SGS II.

and guys, i'm considering between SGS II and iphone 4 only, not between Android family and iPongs iOS. what matters to me is user experience/capability/reliability of both phones regardless the physical specs. (dunno if i said these right.. biggrin.gif )... well... yeah.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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no matter how you tell them now... it is between the Android vs IOS war already... better close this thread...
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 03:22 PM)
Android are for people who want more out of the phone but actually achieve less.  They spend more time customising their phone and less time actually using it for productive purpose. 

Any hardware is only as good as the software that runs on it.  If you want to experience great software, iPong's iTune store is the only place you will not be disappointed and that Android fanboys are jealous of and never admit it.

In the end Apple iPong is a simple devices and "It just Works".


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All Android user can say is how cool their phones customisation look.  Now that is not a bad thing, but when it comes to actual apps, they kind of quiet down.
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I have a few questions for you:

1) what do you mean by achieve less?

2) iTunes? Really? Sorry dude, I never got a hang of it. Care to explain?

3) Works? Any phone works but you are claiming iPhone works better?

4) What do you mean by actual apps? iBeer? or any other of those similar useless junk apps?
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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Jun 28 2011, 03:34 PM)
It's quite a sad thing to know that when an iPhone4 user tries to "How Lian" the stuff against a Galaxy S.

First of all, one needs to understand that the Galaxy S (not even S2 - which is so much more powerful) in terms of hardware, is superior than the iPhone4.
Galaxy S, running on an ARM A8-Cortex 1Ghz CPU and a PowerVR SGX540 GPU [bundled as the Hummingbird SoC] vs. the iPhone4, which has the same CPU but an older GPU (PowerVR SGX535 - used in the 3GS) [bundled as the Apple A4 SoC].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...5&idPhone2=3115

Secondly, you gotta understand Samsung manufactured these chipsets, so their not gonna be fools to release an inferior model for their own products.

Retina display is fancy - In Plane Switching display with a high resolution display over a 3.5" screen that eventually ends up being more of a white elephant as higher res applications end up consuming more memory and processing; is it necessary for a device of this class?)

In terms of application dev and support - iOS has a bigger base and comes out with their apps ahead of their Android counterparts. This is caused by the open source of Android development ~ allowing other devs to come out with "similar" games with a slight twist in naming. Due to this, development is primarily focused over iOS than Android, since revenue security is assured.
Nevertheless, Android is catching up on this as most popular apps have been ported within a few months of release.

Personally, I would opt for Android since is a fast-maturing OS that offers flexibility; unlike iOS which is a GtG, out-of-the-box solution, which doesn't promise any big improvements in smart phone advancements as it has likely reached it's peak of development.

PS:- Many wonder why iPhone is more "smoother" than Android. Some may have realized the "Illusions" put up from Transition Effects (thus masking load and response times). No one really knows that, the actual load time taken may, infact, be longer than Galaxy S or similar phones.
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android geeks forever fail to realize the importance of user experience.
to them, everything is specs and benchmarks or showing off to their friends what a cool lockscreen they have.
these group of ppl spend a lot of time and effort to change into different icons, fonts, etc.

for example, android geeks will rather choose to buy a cheap satria gti, change the engine, brakes, steering wheel, rims, exhaust to achieve more horsepower.

iphone users will never understand this type of undying love. they will rather drive or sit in the comfortable, smooth engine and luxurious interior of the S-class.
they can't even hear the rumble of the modified satria gti bcos it's so peace and quiet in the cabin.

...


android phones use their hardware power to achieve things like higher megahertz, dual-core, etc and these are the thgs that makes android geeks reach orgasm.



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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 03:41 PM)
and guys, i'm considering between SGS II and iphone 4 only, not between Android family and iPongs iOS. what matters to me is user experience/capability/reliability of both phones regardless the physical specs. (dunno if i said these right..  biggrin.gif  )... well... yeah..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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1st of all you need to elaborate what do you mean by user experience? wall of icons vs widgets can be considered 1 of them. For calling + SMS + typical FB/online I don't think there's any significant difference. Since you have both in hand, why not judge yourself? hmm.gif

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Those who used Iphone and never use android on a day to day basis please do baseless comment.

Android apps are useless?
I dont want to start a war, please close thread.
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There's no illusion to iOS. Hardware acceleration is the name of the game. SGS2 is the first Android to have done it beautifully.
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android geeks forever fail to realize the importance of user experience.
to them, everything is specs and benchmarks or showing off to their friends what a cool lockscreen they have.
these group of ppl spend a lot of time and effort to change into different icons, fonts, etc.

for example, android geeks will rather choose to buy a cheap satria gti, change the engine, brakes, steering wheel, rims, exhaust to achieve more horsepower.

iphone users will never understand this type of undying love. they will rather drive or sit in the comfortable, smooth engine and luxurious interior of the S-class.
they can't even hear the rumble of the modified satria gti bcos it's so peace and quiet in the cabin.

...
android phones use their hardware power to achieve things like higher megahertz, dual-core, etc and these are the thgs that makes android geeks reach orgasm.
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this makes me LOL. biggrin.gif

i had a quote from somewhere i can't remember "dun think u r safe when u feels safe"

since ancient times, the best works/art ever made is by the creator own-self-touch. just very instantly, go buy a premade roti canai from Tesco and toast it in yr oven, then compare it with a home made mamak roti canai, which is better? (i dunno if this is a good example but i hope u get what i mean.. lollll)

just for example, if 1 day if Apple screwed, all iPhone users will cry, but if Android shut down, maybe the so called "geek" will made their own OS? cool2.gif cool2.gif Edit: my point is, Android users will survive better due to their experience in OS.

well.. cheers. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 03:53 PM)
this makes me LOL.  biggrin.gif

i had i quote from somewhere i can't remember "dun think u r safe when u feels safe"

since ancient times, the best works/art ever made is by the creator own-self-touch. just very instantly, go buy and premade roti canai from Tesco and toast it in yr oven, then compare it with a home made mamak roti canai, which is better? (i dunno if this is a good example but i hope u get what i mean.. lollll)

just for example, if 1 day if Apple screwed, all iPhone users will cry, but if Android shut down, maybe the so called "geek" will made their own OS?  cool2.gif  cool2.gif

well.. cheers.  biggrin.gif
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i tot android already have their own os like those cynogenmod , modaco , miui etc whistling.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 03:47 PM)
android geeks forever fail to realize the importance of user experience.
to them, everything is specs and benchmarks or showing off to their friends what a cool lockscreen they have.
these group of ppl spend a lot of time and effort to change into different icons, fonts, etc.

for example, android geeks will rather choose to buy a cheap satria gti, change the engine, brakes, steering wheel, rims, exhaust to achieve more horsepower.

iphone users will never understand this type of undying love. they will rather drive or sit in the comfortable, smooth engine and luxurious interior of the S-class.
they can't even hear the rumble of the modified satria gti bcos it's so peace and quiet in the cabin.

...
android phones use their hardware power to achieve things like higher megahertz, dual-core, etc and these are the thgs that makes android geeks reach orgasm.
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YOU fail to understand what is a "smartphone".

If specs mean nothing, why Apple delay their iP5 launch to revise their hardware spec?

You think only Android users customize their phones? You phailed. What the heck is jailbreak again? Do you need that for "user experience"? rolleyes.gif




Android phone hardware power? explain HTC Wildfire, Samsung Galaxy 5 or any other <RM900 phones... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 03:40 PM)
I have the SGS and out of the box it lag like hell. GPS not working, blah blah blah  Better hardware?  So what if the software is poor.
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SGS is a fail product out of the box, everyone should know this already,
even if it can be good if you applied tweaks to it, but that is not the point here.

We are comparing SGS 2 with iP4, in terms of smoothness, SGS 2 is pretty silky smooth
what it lacks is a good UI on top of Android.
it lacks all the transition animations that make iP4 look so good (e.g when rotating the screen)

all that matters is whether TS likes iOS or Android more, even if TS kept saying to keep the comparison to device only,
but its pointless if you do so, in terms of hardware, SGS 2 is one generation ahead of iP4, so there's no argument here.
so what matters here is the OS.
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 03:55 PM)
YOU fail to understand what is a "smartphone".

If specs mean nothing, why Apple delay their iP5 launch to revise their hardware spec?

You think only Android users customize their phones? You phailed. What the heck is jailbreak again? Do you need that for "user experience"? rolleyes.gif

Android phone hardware power? explain HTC Wildfire, Samsung Galaxy 5 or any other <RM900 phones... hmm.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif i jailbreaked my iphone to get better user experience. blush.gif
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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jun 28 2011, 03:51 PM)
There's no illusion to iOS. Hardware acceleration is the name of the game. SGS2 is the first Android to have done it beautifully.
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even though its much improved and the best i've tried so far, but some lag still remains and somehow it still lacks the smoothness and natural feel of even the original iPhone.

that's why the magic of iOS and apple is earning a lot from this piece of magic that they innovated.

based on android's architecture, maybe we need sgs 4 with quad-proc and gigahertz nvidia graphics processor before it can finally and truly match the iphone.

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it's really nothing to do with harware only.
even windows phone can achieve that level of fluidity.


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i suggest everyone here stop feeding the trolls laugh.gif
there's a troll here regretted for buying a broken android phone and whining "Y I DIDN'T BUY IPHONE AT THE 1ST POINT" laugh.gif

back to topic, like what djfoo mentioned, SGSII has hardware acceleration, thats what is lacking in previous android phones, if thats been included, things would be much different
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 04:57 PM)
even though its much improved and the best i've tried so far, but some lag still remains and somehow it still lacks the smoothness and natural feel of even the original iPhone.

that's why the magic of iOS and apple is earning a lot from this piece of magic that they innovated.

based on android's architecture, maybe we need sgs 4 with quad-proc and gigahertz nvidia graphics processor before it can finally and truly match the iphone.

...

it's really nothing to do with harware only.
even windows phone can achieve that level of fluidity.


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Are you sure? My china brand X5 is as smooth as Iphone4. laugh.gif
Which phone are you referring that lags? doh.gif
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QUOTE(darude87 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:58 PM)
i suggest everyone here stop feeding the trolls laugh.gif
there's a troll here regretted for buying a broken android phone and whining "Y I DIDN'T BUY IPHONE AT THE 1ST POINT" laugh.gif

back to topic, like what djfoo mentioned, SGSII has hardware acceleration, thats what is lacking in previous android phones, if thats been included, things would be much different
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 03:57 PM)
even though its much improved and the best i've tried so far, but some lag still remains and somehow it still lacks the smoothness and natural feel of even the original iPhone.

that's why the magic of iOS and apple is earning a lot from this piece of magic that they innovated.

based on android's architecture, maybe we need sgs 4 with quad-proc and gigahertz nvidia graphics processor before it can finally and truly match the iphone.

...

it's really nothing to do with harware only.
even windows phone can achieve that level of fluidity.


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try come scroll my phone , ios also dun have that kind of menu ......... my phone spec is just like sgs 1 brows.gif

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 03:57 PM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  i jailbreaked my iphone to get better user experience.  blush.gif
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in what term? hmm.gif

BTW, I still don't get what you mean by user experience. Maybe this video can help you:


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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 04:03 PM)
in what term? hmm.gif

BTW, I still don't get what you mean by user experience. Maybe this video can help you:


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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 28 2011, 04:01 PM)
Are you sure? My china brand X5 is as smooth as Iphone4.  laugh.gif
Which phone are you referring that lags?  doh.gif
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a lot of ppl here didn't taste vanilla android before, thats why they won't know how fluid android can be also laugh.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 04:03 PM)
in what term? hmm.gif

BTW, I still don't get what you mean by user experience. Maybe this video can help you:


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yeah thats help a lots bro.. haha.. ty

u knw what, my SGS II meter going up dy, a bit ahead of ip4 now.. biggrin.gif
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Grids of icons running smoothly without lag notworthy.gif

Slower page loading in browsers notworthy.gif

No Flash browsing notworthy.gif

Archaic, intrusive notification system notworthy.gif

No freedom of choice notworthy.gif

Death grip notworthy.gif

Apple notworthy.gif

Obnoxious, hipster, Starbucks frap sipping iTards notworthy.gif


Oh hey guys, look, it's easy to troll and give ignorant comments too! biggrin.gif


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i tot android already have their own os like those cynogenmod , modaco , miui etc  whistling.gif
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Yeah...the one where video doesn't work. Fm doesn't work yet. And battery drain like running on twin turbo?
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:19 PM)
Yeah...the one where video doesn't work.  Fm doesn't work yet. And battery drain like running on twin turbo?
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i m not sure , i just know my vanilla 2.3.4 is running great here~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 03:47 PM)
android geeks forever fail to realize the importance of user experience.
to them, everything is specs and benchmarks or showing off to their friends what a cool lockscreen they have.
these group of ppl spend a lot of time and effort to change into different icons, fonts, etc.

for example, android geeks will rather choose to buy a cheap satria gti, change the engine, brakes, steering wheel, rims, exhaust to achieve more horsepower.

iphone users will never understand this type of undying love. they will rather drive or sit in the comfortable, smooth engine and luxurious interior of the S-class.
they can't even hear the rumble of the modified satria gti bcos it's so peace and quiet in the cabin.

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android phones use their hardware power to achieve things like higher megahertz, dual-core, etc and these are the thgs that makes android geeks reach orgasm.
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Sorry to disappoint you, but I know most (not all) iPhone users are the most "kiasu" of the lot - buying iPhones based on Call Plan promos and crap. So calculative over everything yet that piece of "S-Class (you know what the S symbolizes, yes? rolleyes.gif) of yours, that takes so much yet produces so little.
A smart person would rather pay top-dollar over a promising product than be someone that goes around saying "I have an iPhone" although completely dumbfounded with it's limitations.

Driven by hunger, a fox tried to reach some grapes hanging high on the vine but was unable to, although he leaped with all his strength. As he went away, the fox remarked, 'Oh, you aren't even ripe yet! I don't need any sour grapes.' People who speak disparagingly of things that they cannot attain would do well to apply this story to themselves.

Source : An Interesting Story

You can say a hundred things but all of them have been comparing cars; since you don't have any facts to back you up, so use the "papa-mama" persuasion skills to convince people on your "S-Class".

Honestly, I think iPhone is a decent phone although excessively over-hyped by trendsetter wannabes. wink.gif
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QUOTE(phantomash @ Jun 28 2011, 03:56 PM)
SGS is a fail product out of the box, everyone should know this already,
even if it can be good if you applied tweaks to it, but that is not the point here.

We are comparing SGS 2 with iP4, in terms of smoothness, SGS 2 is pretty silky smooth
what it lacks is a good UI on top of Android.
it lacks all the transition animations that make iP4 look so good (e.g when rotating the screen)

all that matters is whether TS likes iOS or Android more, even if TS kept saying to keep the comparison to device only,
but its pointless if you do so, in terms of hardware, SGS 2 is one generation ahead of iP4, so there's no argument here.
so what matters here is the OS.
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Comparing the iPong4 which is 1 year old tech with the SGS2 is not really fair but surprisingly the ipong 4 can still stood up quite well against the SGS2.
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aaaaiaaaaa

iphone is good
android phone is good too

it's yr money, buy the one that u like most
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:19 PM)
Yeah...the one where video doesn't work.  Fm doesn't work yet. And battery drain like running on twin turbo?
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any proves? I used Cyanogenmod 7 and no problems so far. Now using Reflex S for the sake of Sense 2.1. whistling.gif

btw, another video:

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:23 PM)
Comparing the iPong4 which is 1 year old tech with the SGS2 is not really fair but surprisingly the ipong 4 can still stood up quite well against the SGS2.
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But comparing the ancient iOS4 (rows of icons) and TouchWiz 4.0 (widgets etc) is fair? Interesting. Have you seen the internet browser comparisons?
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:23 PM)
Comparing the iPong4 which is 1 year old tech with the SGS2 is not really fair but surprisingly the ipong 4 can still stood up quite well against the SGS2.
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refer to the video i posted previously... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:23 PM)
Comparing the iPong4 which is 1 year old tech with the SGS2 is not really fair but surprisingly the ipong 4 can still stood up quite well against the SGS2.
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Hardly suprising. Pretty much expected bcos samseng steals ideas from apple.
Just look at the design which is a half-cooked copycat of iPhone.
Touchwiz is nothing but iOS also.

Galaxy tab? 'Nuff said.


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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 04:26 PM)
refer to the video i posted previously... whistling.gif
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A: I've seen it. So what? My Nokia 8250 is running smoothly so it obviously stands up well to the Samsung Galaxy S 2.

B: Errrr, what? That doesn't even make sense.

A: Exactly. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 04:28 PM)
Hardly suprising. Pretty much expected bcos samseng steals ideas from apple.
Just look at the design which is a half-cooked copycat of iPhone.
Touchwiz is nothing but iOS also.
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Mind you, the Touchwiz is just a UI not an OS to be compared to iOS. And do iOS have widgets and notification pull down? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 04:30 PM)
Mind you, the Touchwiz is just a UI not an OS to be compared to iOS. And do iOS have widgets and notification pull down? rolleyes.gif
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notification? why sounds so familiar 1...oh yah, iOS 5 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 04:28 PM)
Hardly suprising. Pretty much expected bcos samseng steals ideas from apple.
Just look at the design which is a half-cooked copycat of iPhone.
Touchwiz is nothing but iOS also.

Galaxy tab? 'Nuff said.
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Thank god Apple thought of the iOS5 notifications, Wireless Sync and the iBooks bookshelf concept all by themselves without stealing, eh? They sure didn't get the idea of the App Store from the Installer jailbreak community.

Apple, truly the bastion of invention and innovation that NEVER steals! notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(darude87 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:31 PM)
after jb, yes, keyword? Jailbreak laugh.gif

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No no no. Only Android geeks customize their phones, remember?

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jun 28 2011, 04:31 PM)
No no no. Only Android geeks customize their phones, remember?
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I didn't know got this game on Android... blink.gif


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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jun 28 2011, 04:31 PM)
Thank god Apple thought of the iOS5 notifications, Wireless Sync and the iBooks bookshelf concept all by themselves without stealing, eh? They sure didn't get the idea of the App Store from the Installer jailbreak community.

Apple, truly the bastion of invention and innovation that NEVER steals!  notworthy.gif


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:33 pm

No no no. Only Android geeks customize their phones, remember?
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

i wonder what is winterboard for then laugh.gif or maybe they will tell me, i don't jailbreak laugh.gif

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jun 28 2011, 04:31 PM)
Thank god Apple thought of the iOS5 notifications, Wireless Sync and the iBooks bookshelf concept all by themselves without stealing, eh? They sure didn't get the idea of the App Store from the Installer jailbreak community.

Apple, truly the bastion of invention and innovation that NEVER steals!  notworthy.gif


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:33 pm

No no no. Only Android geeks customize their phones, remember?
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Im sure if apple really stole, the lawsuits would've been filed ady by google.
For all I know, maybe apple already had this concepts but just waiting for the right time to implement it.
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 04:35 PM)
Im sure if apple really stole, the lawsuits would've been filed ady by google.
For all I know, maybe apple already had this concepts but just waiting for the right time to implement it.
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You're right. It's all just speculation. Apple NEVER steals.

Oh wait, hang on

http://the-gadgeteer.com/2011/06/16/apple-...uit-with-nokia/

D'oh!
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he's sounding more n more like kentang peranchis, anyone? laugh.gif

no point arguing with them, steve is their god, apple is their religion laugh.gif

all hail apple !
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 04:28 PM)
Hardly suprising. Pretty much expected bcos samseng steals ideas from apple.
Just look at the design which is a half-cooked copycat of iPhone.
Touchwiz is nothing but iOS also.

Galaxy tab? 'Nuff said.
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Very intelligent comments over there; so i take it phones cannot use a candy-bar design since Motorola came out with it first?
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 05:35 PM)
Im sure if apple really stole, the lawsuits would've been filed ady by google.
For all I know, maybe apple already had this concepts but just waiting for the right time to implement it.
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Wow that is one baseless assumption there. Any source to prove that? rclxub.gif
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CELCOM.AXIATA : Dont troll here... your SGS2 will be arriving soon, go camp..
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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Jun 28 2011, 05:38 PM)
Very intelligent comments over there; so i take it phones cannot use a candy-bar design since Motorola came out with it first?
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He is dunno from what cave. Have he ever heard of a device called windows tablet pc?
Thats was way way before ipad was ever created.
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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 28 2011, 04:39 PM)
Wow that is one baseless assumption there. Any source to prove that?  rclxub.gif
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nah. now see who is copying. ohya notification area android had it since eclair if you don't know what is it, try google it.
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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 28 2011, 04:42 PM)
He is dunno from what cave. Have he ever heard of a device called windows tablet pc?
Thats was way way before ipad was ever created.
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Yea, HP, O2, Palm, etc... Well, im sure he's also thinking that Apple "invented" multi-touch and touchscreen lol doh.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 04:35 PM)
Im sure if apple really stole, the lawsuits would've been filed ady by google.
For all I know, maybe apple already had this concepts but just waiting for the right time to implement it.
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keyword " For all I know " doh.gif Baseless assumption. Right time to implement it? Mind telling me what is the right time? laugh.gif

QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Jun 28 2011, 04:38 PM)
Very intelligent comments over there; so i take it phones cannot use a candy-bar design since Motorola came out with it first?
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Exactly. doh.gif
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 05:35 PM)
Im sure if apple really stole, the lawsuits would've been filed ady by google.
For all I know, maybe apple already had this concepts but just waiting for the right time to implement it.
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dude...wat planet you coming from??.. tongue.gif tongue.gif shakehead.gif
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Guys.. Guys... Cheerssss!

haha...

c'mon, dun throw cakes on each others.. biggrin.gif


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:48 pm(my iphone 4 is sitting quitly in the desk, while i can't take my hands from my new baby SGS II) rolleyes.gif i guess its about to be decided...

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Naa. We are just bonding over here.


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:49 pm
QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 05:46 PM)
Guys.. Guys... Cheerssss!

haha...

c'mon, dun throw cakes on each others..  biggrin.gif


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:48 pm(my iphone 4 is sitting quitly in the desk, while i can't take my hands from my new baby SGS II)
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Same with me. when I sold my arc and had to use back iphone4.
I cant use it even for a day! I ended up buying Ideos X5 temporary until SGS2 comes out at that same night.


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QUOTE(un_id @ Jun 28 2011, 04:46 PM)
Guys.. Guys... Cheerssss!

haha...

c'mon, dun throw cakes on each others..  biggrin.gif


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:48 pm(my iphone 4 is sitting quitly in the desk, while i can't take my hands from my new baby SGS II)
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Have you got the info you need yet? If so, I suggest you lock this thread to prevent further trolling.
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Technically Android is open source. Anybody can take any part of Android's source code and incorporate it into anything they want, and are not required to make it open source either.

So, Apple stole, but was consented by Google.

Blame openness. Haha.

Thread's drifting to somewhere else. Someone pull it back fast.

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QUOTE(piumiu @ Jun 28 2011, 04:48 PM)
Naa. We are just bonding over here.


Added on June 28, 2011, 4:49 pm

Same with me. when I sold my arc and had to use back iphone4.
I cant use it even for a day! I ended up buying Ideos X5 temporary until SGS2 comes out at that same night.
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Respect rclxm9.gif

Expect the best and forget the rest icon_rolleyes.gif
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I have neither phone but from what I can gather, there is no right or wrong as to which to choose. It's similar to some people who just like good food and don't care how it's being cooked. But others prefer to do the cooking themselves. Both are OK.

Based on what happened to Apple Macintosh vs Windows, sooner or later, I think Apple will lose because they want to control everything and people don't like that.



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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:56 PM)
I have neither phone but from what I can gather, there is no right or wrong as to which to choose. It's similar to some people who just like good food and don't care how it's being cooked. But others prefer to do the cooking themselves. Both are OK.
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There is no wrong in choosing but judging wrongly is wrong. It's like saying 1+1=3. biggrin.gif
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hardware build wise, i would prefer the SGS2 as i've seen first hand the glass back of my friends Ip4 crack once he put his phone on the table.

Size wise the SGS2 is just right, but sometimes it kinda feels a lil too thin.

Design wise, ip4 feels more clean and well designed.

Speakers the ip4 wins imo as the position of the speakers on the SGS is kinda preventing me from holding it a certain way.

Battery wise, ip4 atm but SGS2 is picking up after every firmware rev, im up to 17 hours now mod usage.

screen quality, colors SGS2, sharpness ip4, size sgs2

camera, startup ip4, pic quality SGS2

call quality, SGS2 for less call drops

eerr.. what else?
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Bro alie,i have given my paid slot no.12 to celcom.axiata.
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i just come across this, and it makes me giggles, i can't resist. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 28 2011, 05:01 PM)
hardware build wise, i would prefer the SGS2 as i've seen first hand the glass back of my friends Ip4 crack once he put his phone on the table.

Size wise the SGS2 is just right, but sometimes it kinda feels a lil too thin.

Design wise, ip4 feels more clean and well designed.

Speakers the ip4 wins imo as the position of the speakers on the SGS is kinda preventing me from holding it a certain way.

Battery wise, ip4 atm but SGS2 is picking up after every firmware rev, im up to 17 hours now mod usage.

screen quality, colors SGS2, sharpness ip4, size sgs2

camera, startup ip4, pic quality SGS2

call quality, SGS2 for less call drops

eerr.. what else?
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are you sure? unsure.gif

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Omg im getting more and more pity this celcome ashieta... He is just keep on repeating his word to try to defend his godly delicuous fruit platter lolz.
All this show thats only what they got rofl

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 05:03 PM)
are you sure? unsure.gif
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owned both, albeit the ip4 for a short time.. so yeah, i stick with my comments..
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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 28 2011, 05:05 PM)
owned both, albeit the ip4 for a short time.. so yeah, i stick with my comments..
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ip4 starts faster than SGS2??? hmm.gif

most of the vids on youtube showed otherwise. Even the demo unit I tested showed otherwise. hmm.gif
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i cant say for customization as there is nothing to compare against in the ip4..

im using an ultra capsule case to make my GS2 thicker now tongue.gif


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ip4 starts faster than SGS2??? hmm.gif

most of the vids on youtube showed otherwise. Even the demo unit I tested showed otherwise. hmm.gif
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oh.. my bad on that, i should say start taking a pic, ip4 saves the pic faster...

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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 28 2011, 05:07 PM)
i cant say for customization as there is nothing to compare against in the ip4..
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Nope, no customization involved. As far as no Superuser icons appeared in the SGS2 app drawer in those vids. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 04:58 PM)
There is no wrong in choosing but judging wrongly is wrong. It's like saying 1+1=3. biggrin.gif
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A person who know nothing about technology should pick the iPhone. A person who like to get his hands dirty with tinkering should get the Andriod. So both decision is right and there are no wrong.

Personally, I prefer the easy way and spend my time doing something else like watching movies or chasing gf LOL




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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Jun 28 2011, 05:11 PM)
Nope, no customization involved. As far as no Superuser icons appeared in the SGS2 app drawer in those vids. hmm.gif
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oh no, i was saying im not going to compare ios and android customization features. was not referring to the previous comment smile.gif

but really, the only damn thing annoying me bout the SGS2 is the speaker position.. is everyone really okay with it?
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 28 2011, 05:11 PM)
A person who know nothing about technology should pick the iPhone.
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You are right on this.


QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 28 2011, 05:11 PM)
A person who like to get his hands dirty with tinkering should get the Andriod. So both decision is right and there are no wrong.
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you are half right on this.


QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 28 2011, 05:11 PM)
Personally, I prefer the easy way and spend my time doing something else like watching movies or chasing gf LOL
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Oh, I spend most of my time with my gf and browsing for a few dates and locations to propose. I don't really spend much time on customizing, just tweaking so that my phone works the way I need and want it to be. smile.gif


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QUOTE(bansai @ Jun 28 2011, 05:14 PM)
oh no, i was saying im not going to compare ios and android customization features. was not referring to the previous comment smile.gif

but really, the only damn thing annoying me bout the SGS2 is the speaker position.. is everyone really okay with it?
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With Cydia, the iOS is quite customizable. Just beware of lags.

You mean the phone speaker or the loud speaker? hmm.gif


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No matter what arguments that you put fwd here, nothing is going to change that samseng is already been sued in USA and even in their own hive in korea.
apple is going to make samseng pay for stealing. source here

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i can sense the the increasing desperation among android fanboys.
now they are even comparing start-up times. shocking.gif


i've not personally compared startup times of a clean iphone4 with a clean sgs2.

but the reason why android devices needs to be restarted fast is bcos it always hang and need to reset.
hence fast startup is necessary to ensure minimal disruptions.

why u need to restart a phone? whistling.gif




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Guys.. the thread drifted somewhere else.. So i close this now ok..

Cheers!
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QUOTE(CELCOM.AXIATA @ Jun 28 2011, 05:18 PM)

No matter what arguments that you put fwd here, nothing is going to change that samseng is already been sued in USA and even in their own hive in korea.
apple is going to make samseng pay for stealing.

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i can sense the the increasing desperation among android fanboys.
now they are even comparing start-up times. shocking.gif
i've not personally compared startup times of a clean iphone4 with a clean sgs2.

but the reason why android devices needs to be restarted fast is bcos  it always hang and need to reset.
hence fast startup is necessary to ensure minimal disruptions.

why u need to restart a phone?  whistling.gif

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dude.... no one is comparing startup times, RTF post troll... just go get your SGS2 from alieamin...

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