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 SGS II or IPHONE 4?!, maybe its not appropriate to ask, but...

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post Jun 28 2011, 08:05 AM

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even though i had answered this many times over.
if the mods are smart here, they shld pin my posts to avoid so many repeat questions.
but if it can help another human out there, why not?

1stly, ask urslf what is the use of smartphone 4 u other than the normal calling and sms?

both phones are expensive and you already have both.
why duncha try each out for one week and then decide?
nobody can really make the right choice.

for example, one of my staff is a android fanatic. started from magic and now sgs2.
she spends most of her life with the phone, doesn't join much with our social gatherings, stays at home other than coming to work.
she enjoys constantly changing themes to make android look different, always look forward to flashing custom ROMs from the internet.
she finds joy by 'discovering' new capabilities of her android each time she flashes it.
however, she needs to use another cheap nokia bcos some of the android phones that she bought are defective and spend time for rma, cannot reach her during rom flashing, etc.

she's a very good staff, knowledgeable and brought in good sales. in fact geeks money is easy to earn bcos of her.

unfortunately her father had died and she went back to Labu just after valentine's day.

now ppl like her can never understd the beauty and power of iphone. she can live with laggy interface, lack of apps, poor quality just bcos she can get the freedom to do all the nerdy stuffs that she want.

all the goodness and premium feel of iphone is meaningless to nerds/geeks.

so ask urslf, who u are...
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post Jun 28 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 28 2011, 08:20 AM)
BTW, Android is not just for geeks, they're for normal people too.  I highly doubt the 350,000 new Android phones activation per day are all done by geeks.
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P.S. I voted for sgs2 so u can sell ur iphone. wink.gif


the 350k activations per day (is it arnd the world or just USA?) that u mentioned may be due to these reasons
1) by normal ppl or non-geeks who couldn't afford iphone. android is widely used in low end devices as well.

2) was influenced by geeky frens. ppl usually look for geeks to ask for advice on buying gadgets. unfortunately geeks are mostly fanboys so they couldn't offer a balanced viewpoint or considered that not all ppl are geeks.

3) high number of activation is bcos of many different ROM flashing by the same device?
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post Jun 28 2011, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Jun 28 2011, 08:38 AM)
aiyo, like that, iphone lg ramai

everytime update iOS kuar, have to sync to itunes to activate

lg gila babi rmai iphone activated, kah kah kah

its the serial number la bro, the warranty starts when they bought it, or use it --> aka activate it
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thats why it is important to find out how this 350,000 activations per day claim is actually calculated?
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post Jun 28 2011, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jun 28 2011, 09:58 AM)

This brings up an interesting case, the features. My personal opinion, the latest iOS 5, is barely on par with stock Eclair released in 2009. I'm not blatantly siding with Android, but sorry, every time Apple announces something new, I just smirk while thinking shouldn't they have done this sooner? New iOS features is not so new for someone who uses both phones you know smile.gif


SGS2 vs iP4 hardware specs, I don't need to elaborate further.

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it's one thing to pack every feature but whether the user will get good experience is another different thing.
up til gingerbread with dual proc, all android phones is still laggy and doesn't offer smooth experience.
maybe it needs quad procs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 28 2011, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(nicregi @ Jun 28 2011, 12:54 PM)
Hi there.

For me, I will choose SG2. Why? I love to 'upgrade' 'downgrade' my phone. I love to tweak this and that. So, yes Sg2 seems to be a good choice for me.

Iphone 4. All my relatives are using it. Honestly, it is one hell of a phone. Iphone 4 will always be great. Hands down.

At time point, I will say iPhone 4 is better than SG2.

So, choose which ever you felt most comfortable with. End of the day, you must be happy with the phone.

Summary:
SG2: Modify phone (like modifying cars)
iPhone 4: The phone is already great by itself. No need any changes smile.gif
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get ur drift. for car enthusiasts,

ip4 - mercedes S-Class
sgs 2 - satria GTi
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post Jun 28 2011, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(phantomash @ Jun 28 2011, 01:10 PM)
dude, people are comparing SGS2 against iP4, not your SGS.

if you're basing your verdict on SGS vs iP4, then its agreeable.
but SGS2 vs iP4, if that's your verdict, then doh.gif
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this is others judgement and feelings.
each person is unique and special.

why u need to judge? are u supposed to? are you god?

instead of posting like that, give ur own opinions-ler.

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post Jun 28 2011, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Jun 28 2011, 03:34 PM)
It's quite a sad thing to know that when an iPhone4 user tries to "How Lian" the stuff against a Galaxy S.

First of all, one needs to understand that the Galaxy S (not even S2 - which is so much more powerful) in terms of hardware, is superior than the iPhone4.
Galaxy S, running on an ARM A8-Cortex 1Ghz CPU and a PowerVR SGX540 GPU [bundled as the Hummingbird SoC] vs. the iPhone4, which has the same CPU but an older GPU (PowerVR SGX535 - used in the 3GS) [bundled as the Apple A4 SoC].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummingbird_Processor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A4
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...5&idPhone2=3115

Secondly, you gotta understand Samsung manufactured these chipsets, so their not gonna be fools to release an inferior model for their own products.

Retina display is fancy - In Plane Switching display with a high resolution display over a 3.5" screen that eventually ends up being more of a white elephant as higher res applications end up consuming more memory and processing; is it necessary for a device of this class?)

In terms of application dev and support - iOS has a bigger base and comes out with their apps ahead of their Android counterparts. This is caused by the open source of Android development ~ allowing other devs to come out with "similar" games with a slight twist in naming. Due to this, development is primarily focused over iOS than Android, since revenue security is assured.
Nevertheless, Android is catching up on this as most popular apps have been ported within a few months of release.

Personally, I would opt for Android since is a fast-maturing OS that offers flexibility; unlike iOS which is a GtG, out-of-the-box solution, which doesn't promise any big improvements in smart phone advancements as it has likely reached it's peak of development.

PS:- Many wonder why iPhone is more "smoother" than Android. Some may have realized the "Illusions" put up from Transition Effects (thus masking load and response times). No one really knows that, the actual load time taken may, infact, be longer than Galaxy S or similar phones.
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android geeks forever fail to realize the importance of user experience.
to them, everything is specs and benchmarks or showing off to their friends what a cool lockscreen they have.
these group of ppl spend a lot of time and effort to change into different icons, fonts, etc.

for example, android geeks will rather choose to buy a cheap satria gti, change the engine, brakes, steering wheel, rims, exhaust to achieve more horsepower.

iphone users will never understand this type of undying love. they will rather drive or sit in the comfortable, smooth engine and luxurious interior of the S-class.
they can't even hear the rumble of the modified satria gti bcos it's so peace and quiet in the cabin.

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android phones use their hardware power to achieve things like higher megahertz, dual-core, etc and these are the thgs that makes android geeks reach orgasm.
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post Jun 28 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(DJFoo000 @ Jun 28 2011, 03:51 PM)
There's no illusion to iOS. Hardware acceleration is the name of the game. SGS2 is the first Android to have done it beautifully.
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even though its much improved and the best i've tried so far, but some lag still remains and somehow it still lacks the smoothness and natural feel of even the original iPhone.

that's why the magic of iOS and apple is earning a lot from this piece of magic that they innovated.

based on android's architecture, maybe we need sgs 4 with quad-proc and gigahertz nvidia graphics processor before it can finally and truly match the iphone.

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it's really nothing to do with harware only.
even windows phone can achieve that level of fluidity.
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post Jun 28 2011, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Jun 28 2011, 04:23 PM)
Comparing the iPong4 which is 1 year old tech with the SGS2 is not really fair but surprisingly the ipong 4 can still stood up quite well against the SGS2.
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Hardly suprising. Pretty much expected bcos samseng steals ideas from apple.
Just look at the design which is a half-cooked copycat of iPhone.
Touchwiz is nothing but iOS also.

Galaxy tab? 'Nuff said.
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post Jun 28 2011, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(blackchides @ Jun 28 2011, 04:31 PM)
Thank god Apple thought of the iOS5 notifications, Wireless Sync and the iBooks bookshelf concept all by themselves without stealing, eh? They sure didn't get the idea of the App Store from the Installer jailbreak community.

Apple, truly the bastion of invention and innovation that NEVER steals!  notworthy.gif

Added on June 28, 2011, 4:33 pm

No no no. Only Android geeks customize their phones, remember?
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Im sure if apple really stole, the lawsuits would've been filed ady by google.
For all I know, maybe apple already had this concepts but just waiting for the right time to implement it.
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post Jun 28 2011, 05:18 PM

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No matter what arguments that you put fwd here, nothing is going to change that samseng is already been sued in USA and even in their own hive in korea.
apple is going to make samseng pay for stealing. source here

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i can sense the the increasing desperation among android fanboys.
now they are even comparing start-up times. shocking.gif


i've not personally compared startup times of a clean iphone4 with a clean sgs2.

but the reason why android devices needs to be restarted fast is bcos it always hang and need to reset.
hence fast startup is necessary to ensure minimal disruptions.

why u need to restart a phone? whistling.gif




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