Speaking of precision CDAF.

What do you shoot until the 7D's AF is not accurate enough for you? What's your lens hoard?

For me... if I want bokeh..

I'll just get an entry dslr + 50mm f1.8... 200grams heavier but cheaper and lots more bokeh than any of the choices here.

NEX have no fast lens... and good fast lens is heavy = unbalanced + I won't buy into a system without existing lens (track record not that good as well) and only potentially "magic" lens could be 24mm Zeiss.

As for m43.. just keep in mind that the bokeh-ness is ~ one stop less than APS-C so lets say a Oly 17mm f2.8's bokehness is around that of a "22mm f4" for Canon.

i'm feeling like i have to explain for every preference i elect to,but non the least
try google canon DSLR(or any specific model) af focus error,or focus offset problem,or use any key word regarding the problem,the issue is a plenty and widespread,and u can see ppl which complaint bout the issue mostly gotten bad reply as they are noob which doesn't know how to use a camera(like it was rocket science to operate a DSLR),there might be some noob user which dunno how to use the AF point correctly,but most user actually knows,i for once,i know
AF accuracy is important in portrait and macro photography,off by 1% the different is a clear eyes or flat eye,and different in sharpness level,especially with fast lens,yeah i'm pixel peeper but there's no excuse for manufacturer anyway
i used to have some very good sample between properly focused subject using liveview vs the one using the phase detection when i went to canon service center to show them,and they admit the problem but couldn't solve it completely even after numerous trip i went there,at last their answer to me is "device tolerance",as engineer i know what means by tolerance,but if i have a choice i doesn't necessary need to accept it,the olympus xz-1 for example,nails the focus every shot i take,yeah i know its different system,but we talking about focusing system anyway

NEX will introduce a 50mm F1.8 according to creditable rumors,the price of the lens will be around that of the upcoming olympus 45mm f1.8,that sounds good to me
yes i know the theoretical calculation for the DOF,i been there simulate the DOF many time b4 to convince myself into m4/3 being enough of the bokeh,but if there's even better solution why not,but olympus prowess in their optics design and excellent jpeg engine did still sway me a bit slightly

This post has been edited by Valentino46: Aug 8 2011, 06:02 PM

Don't get me wrong buddy... I'm just curious niah.

And also for the lack of other subjects to spam.

There's 2 more contenders... the rumored Fuji and Leica mirrorless

Have you tried downloading sample RAW files to peep?

I've been spamming both the NEX and m43 threads for ages cos I sooooo wanna get one but haven't convinced myself to date.

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Aug 8 2011, 06:01 PM

Yalor before I learned that nex can accept so many legacy lenses, I also went bought m4/3 system. Now C3 may not have Zen but at this price range I consider it good enough to ride cow find horse.

Fuji interchangeable mirrorless....hmmm.,.may have zen and IQ but trust them to fark it up with some odd menu system or fiddlely controls

Leica mirrorless will have uber zen but need uber moolah as well. And will it fit M mount lenses? I think not. Then their M cameras makan telur? Cannot be right.

for your type of photography(i assuming street photography here),the olympus system is the obvious choice i think
but i can see DR being important to you and you just couldn't ignore the advantage afforded by larger sensor,just like i couldn't give up for the bokehness here
we are on the same boat then,if so lets pray the nex-7 to be a darn good one
Fuji will mostly join m4/3 so its same old moan by me as with other m4/3,and as with leica,no matter how much it cost and how hassle to use ppl like kai will still adore it

This post has been edited by Valentino46: Aug 8 2011, 07:20 PM

should i leave nex family n jump to dslr family?

initially i owe a nex3 twin lens.. then i feel i 1 to grab nex5h(sony staff price ard rm2755) so i sell my nex3+1855 lens, unfortunately then nex5h no stock.. n i search ard kl area i found the cheapest i can get outside is ard rm2899..

izit worth to spend rm 2.9k on m43 camera? izit worth to get a dslr?

bt i really a sony nex fan! if i affordable i would keep my nex n get a dslr as well

my dilemma now is i holding my 16mm pancake+1 extra battery.. and i already post for sales bt no need seen interested.. so what should i do now?

kindly !!

just sent in my NEX for service cause my sensor was dirty and couldn't clean it with dust blower at all... The receptionist didn't understand what did I mean by dirty sensor LOL... need to open the lens and show her...

anyways, they don't do the service in KK at all, need to send to West Malaysia, gonna take 1 week++ for such a simple task ><

FOC or???

m43? Nex got APSC sensor, still count at m43?

FOC la of course, still in warranty ma

Why u wanna change?

Wah... Sony really kaya... send from KK to KL just to clean sensor.

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Added on August 9, 2011, 9:22 amI'm thinking of maybe the E-PM1

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Aug 9 2011, 09:22 AM

Lol, if lens cleaning also, sometimes they send to KL one. If got issues also, they might send 2 KL and if KL kenot resolve, they will send 2 SG one..

Problem is, once it left the country, the chance of your *Sony* item under warranty coming back on time, is a bit extended.

My pal still got few lens stuck at SG, few months liao.

tak paham... i wen from dslr to nex, got ppl mau pigi from nex to dslr...

what you mean ?from nex to dslr or NEX3 to NEX5?

Aiyor... like that DIY much faster di.

Both. Just curious.

Lol, problem is, when your 5k carl Zeiss lens got problem, I am very sure you wont DIY

Some people is from NEX go DSLR.

Some is from DSLR go NEX

What's the big deal? Both also can snap picture, both also functions nearly the same unless you earn big $$~"

No big deal. I'm always curious cos in my line of work, I'm "supposed" to understand consumer behaviour.

It really boils down to what u use your camera for. Events, official work, high speed AF. You need a dslr.
Family outings, chill out with friends, blogging, street. Then Nex is the solution (along with many other m43 and PnS out there).
If you have a collection of lenses from any brand, u can easily get an adapter to fit them to the Nex.
At this point, nex3/5 is pretty affordable. The c3 is quite pricey IMHO. No harm waiting it out for the nex7 and see what it has to offer before dumping your cash in. But from what I can see, the 7 will be very very deep in A580/A55 territory.

This is a very good answer.

@sniper - Was not trying to be rude, the statement sounded wrong haha.
Also, if you travel often like me (Up and down KL), You won't not want to lug a DSLR with several lens and etc. More probably NEX is more convenient unless you are using for professional use.

Sometimes, I do feel like switching to a NEX for its portability but sadly, my line of usage requires me to keep my DSLR.

William kor, Nex3 not discontinued liao meh? C3 is the replacement model ma? Then Nex5n is replacement for Nex5 right?

Discontinued, but many shops still have stock.