QUOTE(idoblu @ Dec 28 2011, 05:46 AM)
The SONY NEX Discussion Thread V2, Sony NEX 5N & NEX7 Unveil
The SONY NEX Discussion Thread V2, Sony NEX 5N & NEX7 Unveil
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Dec 28 2011, 09:02 AM
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Dec 28 2011, 04:19 PM
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hi all, any idea where i can get best price for a nex5N body alone?
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Dec 28 2011, 06:48 PM
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Just bought the nex-5nd today.
Then oni I found this thread... hahaha I also gasak the macro lens coz I like to shoot closeups... ![]() ![]() Looking forward to pointers from sifus here... |
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Dec 28 2011, 06:54 PM
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got some samples from the lovely 30 macro?
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Dec 28 2011, 06:55 PM
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I just got the set today... planning to take some closeups when my kids are in bed... will share them here...
Just a word of caution though... I am a noob on photography... dun laugh at my pics k later? |
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Dec 28 2011, 06:59 PM
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We people never laugh at others photo at all lah
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Dec 28 2011, 08:17 PM
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I just took a couple of photographs using my nex-5n coupled with the 30 macro lens.
The 1st problem that I encountered is the camera does not seem to focus on what I want... sometimes, when the autofocus is adjusting, it will focus to the reflection on the sapphire crystal... which is my wall paper... wierd... Anyway, even if it focuses of the details, it only seems to focus at one tiny area... Some samples. Do keep in mind that I am a noob in photography... and I do mean "noob"... still playing around with the settings to see if it can get any better. Be gentle yeah guys... ![]() For this picture, I actually wanted to focus on the Submariner words but the camera seems to focus on the hands... tried different angles but still same. Is there a way to change the focus area instead on just letting the camera decide? ![]() For this one, it seems like only the middle part of the picture is sharp... all other area seems blurry. Is this because the camera detects this picture not as one watch but rather different parts and depths so it only focuses on a certain area? ![]() This picture shows that the camera actually focuses on the cyclops and the reflection of my wallpaper. Why ar? ![]() Tried to focus the entire Open mechanism on the chronomaster but as you can see... a part of it is in focus... blurry on the others. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This picture show the Zenith word being in focus and not the star. If I get the star in focus, the Zenith word will be out of focus. Can't I get both in focus? Well... still learning the ropes... This post has been edited by hanz079: Dec 28 2011, 08:19 PM |
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Dec 28 2011, 08:20 PM
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Page 126 already, anyone create new thread ?
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Dec 28 2011, 09:02 PM
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Dec 29 2011, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Dec 28 2011, 08:17 PM) I just took a couple of photographs using my nex-5n coupled with the 30 macro lens. Hello hanz,The 1st problem that I encountered is the camera does not seem to focus on what I want... sometimes, when the autofocus is adjusting, it will focus to the reflection on the sapphire crystal... which is my wall paper... wierd... Anyway, even if it focuses of the details, it only seems to focus at one tiny area... Some samples. Do keep in mind that I am a noob in photography... and I do mean "noob"... still playing around with the settings to see if it can get any better. Be gentle yeah guys... When it comes to Macro photography, it's very normal to use Manual Focus instead of AF. With AF at such close distances, it is very difficult to focus exactly on the point that you want, which you have already discovered. It'll be hit and miss. Switch to Manual, or better, DMF mode, and from there, adjust it. Menu > Camera > AF/MF Select > DMF or MF With DMF selected, the camera will attempt to AF first; when it has focus confirmation, you can then turn the focus ring to adjust your focus, while still holding half-shutter. Once you have decided on your focus, full depress the shutter. On your issues with the small and thin depth of field (only center is in focus, rest blurry), this is a common factor in macrography. The closer you are to the subject, the less depth of field there is, hence creating the slice of sharpness across the center. To overcome this, you will need to use a larger Aperture setting. I presume you have shot all of this pictures with the Aperture wide open (3.5). Try going beyond F8, till F13 to get better results. The larger the aperture number, the more depth of field you will get. To easily control the Aperture, switch to Aperture Priority Mode. With this mode, you can manually adjust the Aperture size, while the camera determines the Shutter Speed. Menu > Mode > Aperture Priority Do note, that with a larger Aperture, you will need more available light. If there is not enough light, the camera will compensate by increasing the ISO or slowing the Shutter Speed, hence making it harder to hand-hold and shoot your objects. I recommend a Tripod, to keep your camera still while the camera dials in a long, slow shutter speed. The flash will not help here, as being this close to your subject, the lens itself will obscure the path of light from the flash. So in short: More Depth of Field = Larger Aperture = Higher ISO / Slower Shutter Speed Another thing to keep in mind: The NEX prefers to up ISO levels first before increasing anything else. If your ISO is set to Auto, more likely than not that the camera will increase it all the way to 3200, before actually decreasing shutter speed. Hope I helped. |
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Dec 29 2011, 01:00 AM
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Dec 29 2011, 01:03 AM
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hi all, any1 saw any white body nex 5n in penang region?
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Dec 29 2011, 01:05 AM
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Hi Guys, for my personal point of view, i would like to advise not to buy any product from Boeing photo especially the Sungai Wang branch. The sale agent very Sombong. They just behave like you like it you buy with the price they quote, if do't like, just go to buy else where..
Ask for any free gift, just said all are money and can't give free gift.. Walao.. Seems they are the only shop selling camera.. I will not return back to this lousy Boeing photo. Not friendly at all. |
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Dec 29 2011, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(axii @ Dec 29 2011, 12:31 AM) Hello hanz, Axii,When it comes to Macro photography, it's very normal to use Manual Focus instead of AF. With AF at such close distances, it is very difficult to focus exactly on the point that you want, which you have already discovered. It'll be hit and miss. Switch to Manual, or better, DMF mode, and from there, adjust it. Menu > Camera > AF/MF Select > DMF or MF With DMF selected, the camera will attempt to AF first; when it has focus confirmation, you can then turn the focus ring to adjust your focus, while still holding half-shutter. Once you have decided on your focus, full depress the shutter. On your issues with the small and thin depth of field (only center is in focus, rest blurry), this is a common factor in macrography. The closer you are to the subject, the less depth of field there is, hence creating the slice of sharpness across the center. To overcome this, you will need to use a larger Aperture setting. I presume you have shot all of this pictures with the Aperture wide open (3.5). Try going beyond F8, till F13 to get better results. The larger the aperture number, the more depth of field you will get. To easily control the Aperture, switch to Aperture Priority Mode. With this mode, you can manually adjust the Aperture size, while the camera determines the Shutter Speed. Menu > Mode > Aperture Priority Do note, that with a larger Aperture, you will need more available light. If there is not enough light, the camera will compensate by increasing the ISO or slowing the Shutter Speed, hence making it harder to hand-hold and shoot your objects. I recommend a Tripod, to keep your camera still while the camera dials in a long, slow shutter speed. The flash will not help here, as being this close to your subject, the lens itself will obscure the path of light from the flash. So in short: More Depth of Field = Larger Aperture = Higher ISO / Slower Shutter Speed Another thing to keep in mind: The NEX prefers to up ISO levels first before increasing anything else. If your ISO is set to Auto, more likely than not that the camera will increase it all the way to 3200, before actually decreasing shutter speed. Hope I helped. Thanks for taking the time to type out such a long reply for me. I really appreciate it. What you wrote sounds easy to understand for a noob like me. I will try again today with the settings you mentioned to see if the results get any better. Thanks again. |
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Dec 29 2011, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(anson_ljh @ Dec 29 2011, 01:05 AM) Hi Guys, for my personal point of view, i would like to advise not to buy any product from Boeing photo especially the Sungai Wang branch. The sale agent very Sombong. They just behave like you like it you buy with the price they quote, if do't like, just go to buy else where.. the lady boss is very lansi . some of the workers are ok ...Ask for any free gift, just said all are money and can't give free gift.. Walao.. Seems they are the only shop selling camera.. I will not return back to this lousy Boeing photo. Not friendly at all. |
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Dec 29 2011, 09:48 AM
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using kit lens and Raynox...save bajet maa....but really tired on focusing....
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Dec 29 2011, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(hanz079 @ Dec 28 2011, 08:17 PM) I just took a couple of photographs using my nex-5n coupled with the 30 macro lens. I love this lens Super sharp. but endup i get 30mm f2.8 for my nex. You can try MF. is will be better on 1:1 macro.The 1st problem that I encountered is the camera does not seem to focus on what I want... sometimes, when the autofocus is adjusting, it will focus to the reflection on the sapphire crystal... which is my wall paper... wierd... Anyway, even if it focuses of the details, it only seems to focus at one tiny area... Some samples. Do keep in mind that I am a noob in photography... and I do mean "noob"... still playing around with the settings to see if it can get any better. Be gentle yeah guys... ![]() For this picture, I actually wanted to focus on the Submariner words but the camera seems to focus on the hands... tried different angles but still same. Is there a way to change the focus area instead on just letting the camera decide? ![]() For this one, it seems like only the middle part of the picture is sharp... all other area seems blurry. Is this because the camera detects this picture not as one watch but rather different parts and depths so it only focuses on a certain area? ![]() This picture shows that the camera actually focuses on the cyclops and the reflection of my wallpaper. Why ar? ![]() Tried to focus the entire Open mechanism on the chronomaster but as you can see... a part of it is in focus... blurry on the others. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This picture show the Zenith word being in focus and not the star. If I get the star in focus, the Zenith word will be out of focus. Can't I get both in focus? Well... still learning the ropes... |
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Dec 29 2011, 12:24 PM
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Dec 29 2011, 12:35 PM
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hanz079 - try DMF with focus peaking. should be easier. agree with Axii, set your f number to >8
frantic912 - self preference, prefer to have the whole 'body' in focus |
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Dec 29 2011, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(frantic912 @ Dec 29 2011, 09:48 AM) Nice shot Added on December 29, 2011, 1:51 pm QUOTE(sugaring @ Dec 29 2011, 12:35 PM) hanz079 - try DMF with focus peaking. should be easier. agree with Axii, set your f number to >8 That would be tough to do! With the Raynox, depth of field really shrinks down. I have a Raynox, and I can attest to that. Even stopped down to F22, you barely get anymore DOF than F13. This coupled with the kit lens, he was really close to the subject. Any closer and I'm sure the dragonfly would have been frightened away. A limitation of the lens, not the user.frantic912 - self preference, prefer to have the whole 'body' in focus Of course, some bugs really love to be part-time models /Edit Just remembered after hitting post: One tedious technique to get everything in focus is by using "Focus Stacking". This is achieved by taking a few shots at different focus areas, and later stacking all the images together to get one picture with the subject completely in focus. Not very viable in insect macros though, as this requires a tripod, and quite a few shots to get right. Hand-holding will be very, very difficult. ![]() Tamron SP90 Added on December 29, 2011, 2:01 pm QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ Dec 29 2011, 09:15 AM) I must have caught her at good times then! Of the two times I met her, she was very friendly and helpful to me.Added on December 29, 2011, 2:12 pm QUOTE(zstan @ Dec 29 2011, 12:24 PM) I second that. ITS A ZEISS, goddamnit, ZEISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSComparatively, it's cheaper than other brands: Sony Zeiss Distagon T* 24/2.0 RM38xx Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24mm f/1.4G ED RM6xxx Canon EF24mm f/1.4L II USM RM6xxx Used the 1.4s from Nikon and Canon. Those are full frame lenses, so on crop sensor, it would be 1.8/2.0 equivalent. Correct me if I'm wrong, which I may very well be. This post has been edited by axii: Dec 29 2011, 02:12 PM |
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