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post Sep 30 2011, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Sep 30 2011, 01:54 PM)
Melaka also RM300 but no prob for me, I only order 1
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I only paid RM 100 for deposit lol
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post Sep 30 2011, 02:15 PM

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looks like the nfc headphones are given by the dealer themselves instead of nokia https://twitter.com/#!/nokiamy/status/119636630750498816
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post Sep 30 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Sep 30 2011, 02:58 PM)
No wonder lah yours no free gift  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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they said no free gift ma~ so i only paid rm100 lo~
hahahahahhaha
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post Oct 1 2011, 03:22 AM

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QUOTE(orenji @ Oct 1 2011, 01:14 AM)
ANYONE ONE KNOW WHY N9 dont  have chinese language?

i found that no chinese language in nokia n9.

is it possible can download it later?

IF REALLY CANT HAVE  CHINESE, no point i buy n9 also....
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it should have support for chinese since it is going on sale in china lol
what do you mean by no chinese language?
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post Oct 1 2011, 06:00 PM

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stopped by KLCC after attending geekcamp this morning to ask about the workshop thingy. but the staff that i asked know nothing about it and suggested it is going to be @ Jalan IMBI?!?
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post Oct 1 2011, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 1 2011, 06:29 PM)
Funny people it's already stated on the website. I get the same answer most probably on 7th oct. But some former here said might get on Monday
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well, i would say the sooner the better la...
downloaded nokia link but can't seem to get it work with my E52 (on mac, so no ovi/nokia suite)
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post Oct 2 2011, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Oct 2 2011, 04:05 PM)
Yes, confirm have free gift for those who pay deposit for the 64 GB. I'm from Melaka, so, should be nationwide the offer, just depending which dealer you buy from. Slighting different info in that : Gift either BH 505 or carrying case, but guarantee have free gift, nothing about highest paid deposit thing. 
So I suppose those who dont 'qualify' for BH 505, the dealer themself will give another cheaper gift.
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lol, the dealer didn't say anything about freebie so i guess i will just wait and see lol
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post Oct 2 2011, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(Livstar @ Oct 2 2011, 11:51 PM)
Tried n9 2day @ pav...
good respond, 1 of best phone so far

too bad oni few unit for test...
due to long queue, cant really tried a lot
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i dropped by KLCC nokia after geekcamp on saturday, there were basically no one trying the N9 lol
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 3 2011, 09:57 AM)
No proper advertisement. Do they have a TV in front of the shop promoting/showcase the N9?
I suggest this before to Nokia as I notice the same trend with N900.

When I was testing at Nokia Centre, many people come and go and wonder what is this N9, not much idea about it, and some people come and ask about Android, etc. The sales staff doesn't seem to be very familiar with it either, just know the basic details I guess? It really needs to do something to let people get a clear picture and understand, e.g. put a TV in front of the shop displaying the videos, ads, etc of N9. Passers by may stop and look, if the ads is interesting enough, they may drop in and check it out, or try it.
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they did put on a huge bunting to promote n9 though

it looks just plain weird to me, I understand this may be the only and last phone running Meego (yea, Meego is sort of dead now anyway and is transitioning to Tizen) and there will be no successor (Meltemi seems to be playing in a different league since it is rumoured to replace S40, but it should have Qt and Swipe UI too), so they may not be much promotion done to boost the sales. However Nokia themselves are pushing it real hard online, like they set up n9seconds, and even filmed a couple of ads, if this is deemed dead, why put in so much effort?
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 3 2011, 10:26 AM)
Hey sifus, do you think the N9 will be able to upgrade to Tizen?
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not very likely to me, but Nokia has not release any statement on this.

there is this Meltemi project that is intended to replace S40 (rumour) that runs Linux. It is told that Swipe UI will live on other platforms except Windows Phone so Swipt UI and Qt should present there <http://vimeo.com/28758945>.
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post Oct 3 2011, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 3 2011, 10:31 AM)
Easy to explain. The evil Elop doesn't want N9 to succeed but he can't put the brakes on his staff's enthusiasm.
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lol, i don't find him evil, he is just hired as CEO at the wrong time smile.gif

but he is indeed kinda annoying because he sounds indecisive at times (eg. Symbian dies soon vs. Symbian lives through 2016 at least, MeeGo as market disruption experiment vs. N9 is the first and only MeeGo device).


Added on October 3, 2011, 10:38 amalthough swipe UI looks good to me, but I still don't find it intuitive for first time user. :/ Even waking up the phone from sleep is already a huge challenge for most people smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2011, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 3 2011, 10:38 AM)
When he first join, there was a saying that "Send someone inside, attack from the inside, then TAKE OVER".
From what he did, killing Symbian, MeeGo, and promoting WP all the way; It does seem very true.

There was also article about how Maemo is being killed, and then MeeGo.
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his track record is indeed... bad (he was the CEO of Macromedia when Adobe acquired Macromedia, and the fact that he was from Microsoft and he helped bringing Microsoft stuff to Symbian). However, look back when he was hired, both Symbian and MeeGo took too much time to deliver so the decision to switch-over to WP (or even Android) is a rational choice but not something that everyone would appreciate (yea, I don't, and N9 is probably my last Nokia device).

Problem with the strategic alliance between Nokia and Microsoft is that... Microsoft doesn't really like FOSS stuff especially Linux, and this PROBABLY (probably because there may be other factors that are unknown to outsiders like me) explains why MeeGo don't get to shine smile.gif


Added on October 3, 2011, 10:46 am
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 3 2011, 10:40 AM)
True, but most importantly, it's easy to pickup and only need to learn once.

The hardest part, I guess, is for people to "start". Like many things, once we learn it, we will know. But most people prefer to stick to what they already familiar and know, so anything "NEW", regardless how easy it is, it's hard for them to "start".
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yea, it is a good prop to impress your peers, but imagine when you can't run away from some work and you need your friend to call someone from your phone, it can be a real problem

I have seen a UX comparison between N9 and a WP device on Youtube but I can't recall what's the title :/ although it is kinda biased, but it does show N9 is not really intuitive to new (keyword: NEW) users.

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post Oct 3 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 3 2011, 10:55 AM)
It can't be a trial run or promo campaign for WP7. N9 is being denied for major markets where WP7 will be launched. These are markets with big populations like U.S., U.K., Germany, France and India. The reason is that Elop doesn't want N9 to compete with WP7 when it is launched. Even Symbian has been killed off in U.S.

To me this is a strategy of desperation. How will denying customers access to Meego and Symbian push them to WP7? They cater to different market segments. Instead of looking at the coexistence of different OS, Elop has chosen to put all his eggs in one basket. BTW, he's ex-Microsoft.
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we are very much off topic here~
Symbian and MeeGo was slow to deliver at that time, so it was logical for him to push WP, and AFAIK, he doesn't make that decision all by himself and has to be backed by the board of directors, no?

coexistence of different OS is expensive I would say, now that the major focus is Windows Phone, and moving all Symbian work to Accenture, they only have to maintain S40 (soon to be deprecated) and Harmattan (yea, the meego that powers N9). He didn't just put all eggs in ONE basket as devices running dummy OS like S40 is expected to draw in more money than smartphones like WP.

can we go back to N9 discussion lol?! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Oct 3 2011, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 3 2011, 12:09 PM)
That's from marketing/management perspective without looking into the whole picture? How much investment, hardwork is put on the development, what about the people who work on it, etc? It's easy to abandon a project, but it's hard to start and save one.
Anyway, all we're doing is just our own speculations/assumptions, but from what I can see, are they trying to push MeeGo? I doubt it, and from the people who involved in development since Maemo, already mentioned clearly how they and the project were treated.

To move on to N9, now that the phone seems very promising, doesn't that mean there can be opportunity to change their decision to continue it? but if that wasn't even in their consideration no matter how successful it become, then isn't it very clear what's the intention?
Is there any good reason to abandon something, if it's successful or plan to abandon, but if proves to be successful and gets well respond, they will "consider" it? But if the answer in NO to everything, regardless of what happen and trying to make it worst, then it just doesn't look right.
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lol, not sure this is official, but i have seen people saying there will be no more successor to harmattan (not sure if Meltemi is considered as a proper successor) device after N9 regardless whether it is doing well or bad in market. I heard the core developers are only staying till sometime next year or until the device reaches EOL too.

i actually feel bad for Symbian core developers, it may be very old and difficult to further develop, but it is indeed much better (and probably efficient) than others considering the number of features that it is delivering.


Added on October 3, 2011, 12:32 pm
QUOTE(arsaa @ Oct 3 2011, 12:19 PM)
this I have to agree....yesterday I have decided to bring my wife to see what N9 is all about....my wife is no smartphone user....but from her feedback....she indeed like the conversation(chat) thingy....all in 1 account make it easy for user to go online....
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yea, been wanting something like this so I can transfer my IM to my smartphone and use the laptop for only real work lol

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post Oct 3 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 3 2011, 03:12 PM)
I suspected all along the BH505 is an official free gift by Nokia, not by generous dealers giving personal gifts. Unless you want to trust one tweet by one guy named Jeff.
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lol, the tweet is not from me (yes, i am @Jeffrey04)...
I asked @nokiamy whether there will be any freebies <https://twitter.com/#!/Jeffrey04/status/119441013000519680>
and this is their reply to my previous mentioned tweet <https://twitter.com/#!/nokiamy/status/119636630750498816>


Added on October 3, 2011, 3:55 pm
QUOTE(orenji @ Oct 3 2011, 03:30 PM)
does anyone care about the malaysia n9 doesnt come with chinese display language and even chinese input?
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according to a developer who is having an N950 in hong kong, the latest firmware upgrade removed all chinese language packs in it :/
you can refer to our conversation over twitter here http://bettween.com/Jeffrey04/amanda_lam


Added on October 3, 2011, 3:56 pm
QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Oct 3 2011, 02:58 PM)
They didnt call yet. But I called them instead. The staff claimed that the N9 units are already here, but the BH 505 free gift is not here yet, so I still cannot collect yawn.gif

I even told them what if I only want the phone and take today, they still say cannot, cuz in the system they must scan both item and give together with free BH 505.

Haihz, like that also can, N9 is here but free gift not yet here, so cannot collect, LoL. Guess waiting is the only options that I have
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give up your BH-505 lo~ lol

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post Oct 3 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kiasunkiasi @ Oct 3 2011, 04:16 PM)
Why would they remove Chinese language pack? How much space will Chinese language pack occupy?

Sad to hear that as I do get and send SMS in Chinese.
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for arabic, it is possible to install the VKB from Nokia store, probably applies to Chinese too
mynokiablog.com/2011/10/03/video-nokia-n9-new-nokia-tune-and-arabic-keyboard-input/
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post Oct 4 2011, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 4 2011, 10:08 AM)
Hope its out this friday.
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FRIDAY!!!!!
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post Oct 4 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(CoMMie @ Oct 4 2011, 11:24 AM)
yup i paid rm200 for bookings if cancel can take back deposit?
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probably no wo, called and ask ur dealer?!
why cancel?!
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post Oct 4 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 4 2011, 11:29 AM)
Depend on demand. If dealer can easily sell off your booking why not?
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lol, if cannot then buy the phone first, and sell it a bit cheaper to other forumer la lol
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QUOTE(lordskarn @ Oct 4 2011, 11:55 AM)
is it true n9 stock browser comes with no flash support? are they purposely crippling the device like apple does? sad.gif
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deprecating flash favoring html5 is starting to become a trend or something, but I suppose other browsers such as fennec should ship with flash support when it is out?

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