Hi people and experts out there. Just want to know your opinion on this, Is Vista Kiara condo worth buying now for investment? One Mont Kiara has opened. And Vista Kiara residence can walk thru Plaza Mont Kiara via a private access road at the back of Plaza Mont Kiara. And from there can walk to One Mont Kiara.

Also i heard, the Sunrise Sportzone (next to vista kiara) is confirmed going to be another condo with a price tag starting from around RM1 million. And YNH Kiara 163 next to Plaza Mont Kiara may be launched in near future.

So with all these things happening, Vista Kiara although old but the location is very good. So i thought it will still go up in value when all these projects has been completed.

Any opinions here?

Very old and outdated looking condo.....i rather chose MK pelangi, pines or palma...

I think the design is so bad they should tear it down!

Actually it's completed in 1997. newer than MK Pelangi and Pines. The reason i mentioned Vista Kiara is because the price is more affordable and it has been going up for the last 6 months.

You guys think still worth investing in Vista Kiara?

NO

Care to share your reason for NO?

1. vista kiara is not developed by sunrise and therefore the annual events held by sunrise will not benefit any tenants in non-sunrise developed projects. people who would like to stay there 'prefer' to join in the fun else they wouldn't be in MK anyway.
2. vista kiara is considered lower class compared to other projects in the same vicinity. when tenants are given a choice (and at the same par value of rental), why would they want to stay in a high class area when their affordability is lowered compared to the crowd. eg. you are driving a honda accord but was invited to a ferrari gathering. should the honda stick around or should he leave?
3. if the surrounding is going to be developed by super high end luxury condos, vista is going to stick out further in terms of it outdated design. it's gonna look as if it's a squatter house compared to the others. not to mention the pollution that the people staying here needs to endure until the neighbour project is completed. please do not forget MK in general is more tenant's market. why would they want to endure pollution when they could easily rent from the other thousands of units available there??
4. let's not forget the 'equivalent' competitor nearby the area for the same price. is the competitor stronger, better, faster?
5. the road is congested and often jammed up during GIS school break hours.

there's 5 reasons up there. need more?

Thanks for you input.

But investing in Vista Kiara with an "appropriate" price would suit the real estate saying of "Buy the worst house on the best street rather than buy the best house on the worst street."

What do you think?

this is not the best street in mnt kiara...jalan kiara 3 is the worst street in mont kiara....look at the design of vista kiara...look like a 'H' and 'L'....so lame design....

I think Vista Kiara got potential given the fact that it's all surrounded by so many new retail cum office tower cum condo developments and it's all walking distance.

And also for those new projects all the prices are very high. So investors buy high and have to rent out high. But for Vista kiara the price is low, so the rent can be low also. So my rationale is you pay low rent, yet you can enjoy all the multi-million price tagged amenities around you.

Good what.

soongkm,
you have requested for input which some have given. nevertheless, all are entitled to their own opnions. some of us think no and you definitely think yes.
if you are merely seeking support for your decisions, then by all means go ahead.
since you have 'successfully' refuted each disadvantages that we have quoted.
Buy Buy Buy!

I will stay away from jalan kiara 3 as well
Except maybe ceriaan kiara super huge build up

From loan applications, I can see people sapu vista kiara big or penthouse units.
Dunno why. I wont. Is run down building

Just further up kiara 3 new condo fully furnish rm3.5k only rental

This post has been edited by airline: Jun 21 2011, 10:27 AM

If die die wan jln kiara 3, i chose casa kiara 1....high occupancy rate and easy rent out...around 450psf only...

i think i will still go for laman suria, kds or casa kiara.
laman and kds still sunrise product mah...

yalo, since u oledy think this is so good buy.nt nid ask opinion frm here la....most ppl think this is worst design condo in mont kiara and very bad maintain....

I am anti sunrise. Car park all seperate from building.
Have to walk far. Not underground parking
Even mont kiara Aman
Maybe some people like

Aiyo, pls don't all nuke me like this loh... just stimulating discussion only. All inputs by fellow forumers are highly appreciated.

By the way airline, do you know where is Vista Kiara residents' carpark? Underground? because i can't see a carpark complex like those in sunrise condos.

fyi and imho,
underground parking consumes more electricity for lighting since it's dark and also hotter since lacks air circulation.
most people who built underground cp is because of lack of space. they need to put the building on top of the cp.
did you notice dpc latest condo also detached cp building to the condo?
i prefer elevated cp for many reasons:
1. better air quality as opposed to high humidity
2. prevention of flood problem (if any)
3. better lighting compared to basement cp
4. better security as visible from outside

do take note that if sunrise do underground parking like plaza mont kiara itself, they usually reserve plenty of pockets of airwell (direct sunlight hitting to the lowest floor of basement).
mk aman also have similiar features where sunlights practically hits the lowest floor at the perimeter of the parking in block a. the cascading water features below are the worst spots. actually mk aman do have underground parking a bit. but it's partial underground.
try 10 @ MK, most of the CP is well ventilated.
same like laman suria, damai, banyan, etc.

Kochin, so do you know where is Vista Kiara resident car park? Underground? Or elevated? Or in a carpark complex.

Would appreciate your reply on this if you know.

i like undergound carpark below residential building too, not need walk to long way frm carpark to unit.....and the living units is much higher....nice n cozy...

Cant remember last visit there 10 years ago.

PELANGI AND PINES THE BUILDING HAVE BEEN REPAINT.

This post has been edited by straw: Jun 21 2011, 02:22 PM

I think investing in Mont Kiara now is not a wise decision especially with rumours about an upcoming recession in 2012. I too was very interested in MK about a few mths ago. You can even see the threads ive posted on. But after careful consideration and detailed discussions with various parties, i decided against investing in MK and chose TTDI instead.

Rental returns may be lower in TTDI but at least i can be relatively sure of capital appreciation especially with the upcoming MRT (2 stations in TTDI itself). Plus we have the upcoming Bellworth super luxury condo's which many anticipate will raise condo prices in TTDI further.

Not sure what your budget is but i would suggest you look at TTDI which is close by and is a more stable and mature township than MK.

Many owners are starting to push off their units at Pelangi. Not sure why but its not a good sign. Plus that condo is only about 50% occupied. At night its almost like a ghost town.

Hi cybermaster98, thank you very much on your analysis. However, i think TTDI is abit on the high side for me. I have around RM450k to invest. I don't plan to take loan from the bank. So i thought of getting a unit in Vista Kiara and rent it out.

I would be happy if i can rent out at RM1800 per month for a 1235 sq ft, 3 rooms and 2 bath.

U wanna buy cash??? Common la my friend. Thats the worst investment decision u can make. Now loan rates are low so u should take advantage of that. I too could have bought my 1st property cash, but chose to invest the money elsewhere with higher returns.

Always take max loan and maximum duration if ure buying properties. This will free up capital for more property investments later on. Dont even buy cash.

Thought i want to retire early and want to have that rental as part of my monthly income stream...

I think many smarty pants around here thinks they are playing monopoly.

cybermaster98: there is no wise or no wise to decide if he wanna buy cash or not?

to clarified to you guys i've been staying in vista kiara since 97-2010, to further clarified the car park, there is basement car park (mostly) and also a few outdoor carpark near the G level.

investment wise, it's quite good now maybe to you all thinking it's old and should be tear down, yes the management sucks and mosto f it things are not fixed. i can't even imagine there is joker's here saying that it's a negative point for being infront of garden international school. maybe you guys havent stay in MT kiara area before because walking distance to int school is definitely a big big big plus point for condos around the MK vinicity.

i am selling renting my vista kiara condo atm 1900+ SQF for around RM4200 a month, maybe it's a bad investment for most smarty pants here. and i am paying 1M up for my next buy at LUMINA@dutmas so please you smartpants if you can please stop from posting BS.

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Added on June 21, 2011, 8:12 pm+1

oh and also if u are talking about fliiping and taking several loans to serve ur properties just wait till the bubble burst

This post has been edited by nVidiaFX: Jun 21 2011, 08:14 PM

The thing about MK is that the appreciation has been rather stagnant for years. Despite the last few years appreciation we can see MK condos are just moving a bit, not as what other projects are enjoying due to mainly oversupply situations in that area itself. If you are thinking buying for investment or to rent out then think again as the place there has too many supplies and buyer can choose for best bargains which will come at your own cost.

are u sure u live in mont kiara a?.......... LUMINA@ DUTAMAS??.....come on la...Lumina at mont kiara which is near to solaris MK...dutamas is not mont kiara la...aduh boss, u pay 1 million to buy lumina but u downgrade the adress frm mont kiara to dutamas a???....

and fyi, it;s not only vista kiara is walking distance to garden INt school....other condo like casa kiara 1 and laman suria are the same...

This post has been edited by doomdoom: Jun 21 2011, 08:33 PM

Casa Kiara 1 is walking distance to GIS, but have you tried walking there yourself, especially on a hot afternoon, you will be sweating already when you walked from casa kiara 1 to GIS. As for Vista Kiara, GIS is just right opposite of the main entrance of Vista Kiara, all you need to do is to cross the road.

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Added on June 21, 2011, 8:39 pmBeautiful minds think a like...

This post has been edited by soongkm: Jun 21 2011, 08:39 PM

well, ppl will rather walking another 5 min but at least live in a better quaility condo like casa kiara compare to rundown place like vista kiara....

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Added on June 21, 2011, 8:47 pmbro nVidiaFX spent 1m cash to buy lumina@dutamas....this is biggest joke i ever heard...spent 1 m but cannot tell the difference between MK and dutamas....

This post has been edited by doomdoom: Jun 21 2011, 08:47 PM

sales at mont kiara active now. try ask the agents..
rental wise better than elsewhere.
get 1,500sq feet below.
above 2,000sq feet --good luck*

ya recently i find that the occupancy rate at mont kiara is become better, casa kiara, kiaraville, pines, kiaramas ayuria at least more than 50% occupancy rate by judging on the light turn on during night....and solaris dutamas is very vibrant even during weekday night...

Becoming better doesnt make it a good buy. MK would have been a good buy maybe 5 years ago but not with the current pricing. But if u can purchase a unit at reasonable price with a ready tenancy for min 2 years (good rental) then it might be worth considering. Besides that, i would say that MK is still too risky.

My target is also to retire early which is why investors dont keep properties for long. They target properties which can gain good capital appreciation within a few years and then push off. Many ppl flip properties but many have been burnt as well. The technique is doing alot of research and targetting good areas. But always flip within your means so that if 1 goes bad ull always have a backup.

I am well aware of my financial strengths and i have more than sufficient foresight to know where to invest and places to avoid. Im also smart enuf to know not to place all my eggs in 1 basket. Gold and ASB are some of my other notable investments which have brought handsome returns for the past 2 years.

U buying a RM1 mil property and ure boasting? Common my friend. If i wanted to show off i would buy a BMW 3 series (cash) and drive it around but ill rather stick to my old 8 yr Vios and focus my intelligence on buying good properties. Try getting the address correct first before you boast here my friend)

My 1st venture into properties has yielded a capital appreciation of 60% in 2 years. Give me a year and ill show you how well my 2nd property venture has appreciated. By then you can tell me how well your million dollar investment has performed and we'll compare notes yeah?

chill, dude!
why are you stuffing $$$ to somebody's pocket if the person clearly ain't interested.
if you got too much $$$, pass to me lor...

indeed, great minds think alike. i have learn throughout my experience, that once people have set their mind to something, it's very difficult to persuade otherwise. and one of the best learning experience is still learning by mistake.

although your i share the same view as yours, doesn't means that our views are absolutely correct.
who knows, VK might shoots through the roof in the next 6 months?

on a side note:
if comparing nearest prop to GIS, it's KDS, just next door without risk of crossing the street even. but the noise coming off from the school is quite loud especially from the big field during school hours.
i don't really get the meaning of having a walking distance to international school in MK being such a huge +ve point. those students especially in MKIS are quite used to walking around in MK's neighbourhood. so even if you are indeed staying in pines, they would still be able to walk. but of course, walking at 3pm would not be quite pleasant but i have observe the gwailo love to do so. they love the sun so much.
and no offense to the VK resident who posted, i have difficulty understanding his post. maybe because my england not powerful enuff. paiseh!

Well said. Yes, that is right, nobody's view here is absolutely correct or absolutley worong. We are just making decisions based on our reasoning. Some may have different views, some may have the same views. That doesn't matter. That's why we are all here, dicussion forum. We are here to express over views, throwing it out to the public, so people with different views can "counter" with our views. This is good. This is called brain storming and sometimes even as devil's advocate. We should all value all views posted. Everyone has different views to support their decisions.

No one knows the future. I guess mostly everyone is just trying to make the BEST decision. But for me, i am not looking for the best decision. I am looking for the most SUITABLE decision according to my internal factors (personal circumstances) and the current external factors (market conditions).

side note, if kiaramas ayuria 1,600sq feet a year ago can get 760K
now quick search at iproperty same size 960K.

same with Vista Kiara 1235 sq ft. One year ago, you can see asking price in iproperty is around RM400k to RM430k. Now at least RM460k and above.

iproperty can advertise whatever price they want coz they're all posted by property agents. but what we really need to find out is that how many units have been sold at that price ?

i dunno if i'm correct but i believe the change of hands of MK properties are very very slow. Owners are not willing to reduce the price also. Yes, on iproperty the prices look enticing if you're to imagine one day when u need to sell, but like i said, how many units have been sold at that kinda price ?

maybe someone can share how can we find out the actual transacted prices then we are all well-informed of the situation there.

things that i look out for in iproperty.
1. number of posting for the development and number of repeated posting of the same units. this is a good indication of supply and demand.
2. duration of posting. i have fairly good memory and i will be quite sure if it's the same unit posted some time back

i'd seen some units being posted repeatedly for even upto more than a year and yet pricing is still increasing. some may have experienced an increase by more than rm100k.
either the agents are just trying their luck by pricing way above market, or the owner is playing around.

it's also true that MK units are slow sellers nowadays. the fast fast transacted types are those which doesn't even go through agents.

and since MK units are stabilising or dropping, rm400+k for a 1235sq ft does sound fairly reasonable. think local people might be filling up the voids left by the expatriate market.
the new mall should help a little as well.

I got the impression that nowadays, alot of locals are buying those older condos in MK. Those that were in their 30s, when during their 20s, MK is a prime prime place, now those older units has become more affordable now. The way i see it, the expats number is falling and will be in future (those western expats, koreans and japs maybe increasing). But locals will fill in the gap in MK. Just my opinion.

I looked at a few units at KDS selling for approx RM700K with 2 yr tenancy which i found to be over the top.

Many sifu in mont kiara.. haha. Good for newbies

Yup i feel the same too, MK is no more a unreachable place for local....i personally quite like the atmosphere at here...

off topic slightly, but anyone knows if gateway kiaramas is a good buy? for own stay that is.

if you get the mountain view, all i can say is:

Hey bro, what about Kiara Park, TTDI?

wah. you really hard sell this condo ah.
understand that you already made a bundle from this but i really can't comment on subjects which i'm not familiar with.
but having said so, ttdi is one of the most prime area around.
passed by a few developments there and noticed that it's quite serene and quiet.
think it's more to local market rather than investor. but i could be dead wrong.
so in short, can't comment lor.

HAHA! No la bro...not selling anything...just wanted to know your views on it. Yes most of the owners in Kiara Park or TTDI in general are local and owner occupied which makes this area pricing more stable than others.

U considering the small unit?

yeah, the small unit.

My dear friends doomdoom and cybermaster98, i am so sorry if by giving the wrong address of dutamas and mont kiara would gives you such judgement towards me.
i have nothing to boast and prove to both of you, i am just verifying that at least that comes out from my mouth is due to my little experience in both mont kiara area and now you corrected me dutamas, but i would still prefer to use the MT kiara area, if you realise actually as advertised lumina is called : Address: Jalan Duta Kiara, Mont Kiara, Kuala Lumpur. and also for mont kiara area or dutamas most area if u read is call under MUKIM batu if i am not wrong, so how can i be wrong.

point is i have nothing to boast, i dont even know who the hell both of u are.

anway, regarding about vista kiara discussion, i actually attend the AGM meeting for this year 2011, and they actually propose to rebuild or redesign the guard house
as pines did a couple of years ago and if i was not wrong it cost pines roughly 1.3M for the guard house and ever tenant actually agreed to contribute RM5k tops of the funds available at the management community. after undertaking the project pines prices actually appreciated roughly 10-15%.

now most young people, roughly 30-35+ which haves money tends to go for the life style and zen serenity but how long can it last, and what is the price for it? verves suites around 700SQF but going close to million the last i check, please correct me if i am wrong.

bottom line, from the outcome of the AGM meeting of vista kiara last month. we actually decided to go against the proposal of building the new guard house, allthought we have almost 1M in our coffers, we wanted to rectify on more urgent matters such as fixing the common areas, better security and also fixing the fire board which was horrendous that we knew wasn't working, works are being carried out and also most of the residesnt in Vista kiara talking about locals are elderly >50 due to the big landscaping area, if u notice besides pines the second biggest condo with the most landscaping is vista kiara.

maybe to all of u jalan bukit kiara 3 is the worst street, well everyone has it opinions but for RM800K you can get 1800SQF which is right opposite GIS and a rock throw to plaza mont kiara and one mont kiara, why not?

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Added on June 22, 2011, 8:54 pmso my dear friend, so which property in mont kiara or maybe DUTAMAS that u are currently residing now, may i ask ?

This post has been edited by nVidiaFX: Jun 22 2011, 08:54 PM

This post has been edited by preliew: Jun 22 2011, 09:01 PM

Lumina at mont kiara la, just curious how come u spent 1m but still can spell the wrong name..just like u spent 1m to organize the most romantic wedding with the girl that u love most, but u spell wrongly her name in the wedding day.......and for your information, officially there is no such area call dutamas.......those dutamas area formerly is called segambut, just recently change name to jalan dutamas raya, persiaran dutamas...but there is still no formal name dutamas.......so...make sure u spent ur 1m to buy the correct lumina at mont kiara not dutamas...ok??..

o ya, i am living around that area but i prefer to keep as low profile...but definetely i am not staying at vista kiara...

okay bro if you doubt me then so be it, cheers.

Lumina kiara facility lacking,noisy just beside highway.
common area flooding due to wall design.

only outside looks grand. Plus comes with kitchen kabinet and wardrobe
Location wins as well.

hi all the kind bros how is anggun puri good investment? since it is in mt kiara as well.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1781462&hl=

and ur so called luxury condo wah..

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/831356?author=doomdoom

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Added on June 22, 2011, 10:22 pmHi i think u might have a point. but i have been residing in MT kiara area for almost 10 years now. even thought i admit its a white elephant but why i liked lumina is due to
its 2500+ SQ units have duplex (up stairs and downstairs) for the fact with the price i could had purchase other locations.

be it maybe, overcrowded, overpopulated, oversupplied, stagnant but i buy it to stay there for a long term.

i think most people have forgotten, mont kiara/hartamas area to be exacts has links to

kerinchi (MV 5min)
penchala link (curve/1u) (7 mins)
duke highway (ampang) (10 mins)
NKVE and etc.


This post has been edited by nVidiaFX: Jun 22 2011, 10:22 PM

If thats the case TTDI would have been a far better choice with a better quality of life and with all ammenities nearby. PLus a more stable market especially for owner occupied units.

Sorry for OOT for one last time and yeah. it's also sentimental value for the area. you know familiar with the place and etc.
anyway, maybe i am abit bias towards MK area due to partially i grew up in the area and so are u towards ur TTDI area

one thing to highlight i am not too sure with TTDI but i am familiar ard the new TTDI which is near one u the lorong aminudin and also Pizza hut but traffic there seems to be very bad and the only condo i know ard there is TTDI plaza? traffic is fairly bad there too.

anggun puri at dutamas, lumina at mont kiara.......u so free go to find my post a....remember, lumina kiara @ mont kiara....u spent ur 1m at mont kiara nt dutamas....

This post has been edited by doomdoom: Jun 22 2011, 10:32 PM

okay bro PM me ur number maybe can rent to my worker there to clean my lumina and vista kiara.
since its at sri hartamas and mont kiara wah only RM400.

WTR)Sri hartamas/mont kiara medium room for rent,

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Added on June 22, 2011, 10:37 pmBro, btw not i so free find ur post a forummer actually PM me the link. sometimes, its call we are not laughing with u, but at you !

This post has been edited by nVidiaFX: Jun 22 2011, 10:37 PM

good that u can differentiate mont kiara and dutamas....hehe...after staying at mk for 10 years....hehe

Sorry but i didnt grow up in TTDI. Im new there but i chose TTDI after scouting around for 6 months. IM not biased towards TTDI because of any sentimental reasons. Im talking purely from the investment point of view.

TTDI Plaza is a flop la. Thats the only property which is doing badly in TTDI but thats because of its location and directional facing. Try visiting Kiara Park Condo and ull see the difference. Its one of few resort condos in TTDI. And there's no traffic jam around that entrance. And capital appreciation is really good.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 22 2011, 10:43 PM

how does a question posted by TS deviated by so much?

bro doomdoom,
staying in 10 @ MK kah? enjoy the beach and the hanging gardens?
or staying in Banyan? one of the lowest denisty condominium in MK. only 157 units, right?
or the evergreen MK Damai? bungalow in the sky?
or is it MK Aman with the serene cascading water features by the infamous Seksan?
or is it the newly completed meridian with???
so which one is it?
or could it be the verve with its funky sliding wall?
or the elegant kiaramas? with the magnificent hill view?
think i visited quite a number of condos in that area. lol.
personally .... my choice would be ....

no la.i stay at the squatter area at segambut....

hhmmm brem projects? the landed? or staying near anwar's place? hehehe.

squatter area la..illegal house..

hey doomdoom, you got money can afford better and more expensive condo, good for you la, or you just want to flunk your money on lifestyle because of your philosophy towards life and investment, that's great for you. You can also express your constructive opinions on VK, no problem at all.

But pls, don't run VK as segragating into lower class among the condos in MK. Actually alot of people got alot of money, even those that are currently living in VK, or moved out of VK or about to move into VK, is just that how they want to spend their money on property for own stay or investment. It's just like a chinapek wearing singlet and bermuda and slipper walking into a Rolex shop, most people will say this chinapek is come here to look see look see only la, look at the way he dress, no class one, but when a gwailo wearing the same attire, most people will say it's normal for gwailo to wear like that because they like the sun, they won't directly think the gwailo got no class one because he dress that way and walk into a Rolex shop. So what is this business saying people living in VK is like lower class in MK, just because their condo looks weird (according to your taste only), cheaper in market price and management is not working top notch? My friend is living in Ayuria also, the condo now cost close to a RM1 M, the management is same as VK (as you should know), same thing what, intercom broken, complained for 3 months and nobody came to fix it. But did anyone say Ayuria is low class? No, because it's worth close to RM1 M and just because the price tag, nobody is accusing Ayuria is low class, even though get the same lousy treatment as VK management. Where is the rationale here? Do you think you people out there are judging a person or in this case an item as low class or high class based on the price tag the public assigned to it?

So how do you know people living in VK is lower class or not that rich, maybe the person staying in VK is already a millionaire owns property overseas? I know you didn't mention this outright in your posted comments but i tend to get the message by reading between the lines of your posted comments, if you dig what i am saying. I have no problem you listing out the disadvantages of VK, but why it turns out to be a "social class" differentiation issue?

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Added on June 23, 2011, 8:03 amOn top of that, even though a person is rich and stays in a more than RM1 million condo, how do you know he or she has class? As we know alot of top politician in this country are super rich, but does that mean they have class as in a gentlemen, a noble person? Well, you and i both know the answer. So price tag isn't everything.

This post has been edited by soongkm: Jun 23 2011, 08:03 AM

i am squatter area resident, where gt mean to say VK residents are low class???...u misunderstood me la...just express that VK is look uglier in MK...lumina@Dutamas looks best ..o sorry, lumina@ mont kiara....

ok la, then we all squatter residence in MK, but i am a VK squatter resident. Hahahaha....

aiyo, i am really stay at the squatter area@ segambut la...just beside MK...haha

doomdoom,
u like lumina?
buy 288residency. same main contractor.
except the main contractor for lumina become developer for 288 residency.
price is about 50-100% cheaper than lumina but i bet the contractor already learn everything there is to know when they are building lumina. ;p

But i dun like setapak, prefer segambut...haha

when the bandaraya project going to launch
btw, lumina kiara market value max 900K UOB ya.. not 1 million. rest top up.

288 is different location please.

Haih, i better run away from this thread. It's obvious.

Nt sure when bandaraya is going to launch, but the show house is still in progressing...

looks like this thread is split 50-50 on vista kiara

i am actually looking to buy a unit there (block b - 1400 sq feet, 510k, 2nd floor) - am still not sure if i should plunk down my hard earn cash -

the unit that i saw was in good condition but i was surprised that the neigbours all had their things out on the corridor like some cheap ass apartment.....

or are there better investment opp in mont kiara?

i hate those neighbours put all their things out on the corridor...this is mainly due to old condo design, do not have the entrance foyer design...and bad behaviour of neighbour who assume the common corridor area is belong to them...make the situation looks cheap like low cost flat...

to be fair, i only saw one floor with this problem and unfortunately this is the floor i am thinking of buying!

to get a 1400sq feet condo at 510k, is vista kiara really the only choice available ?

why are you thinking of buying this unit in the first place?
if it's for investment, just calculate the yield and if happy, can afford, then buy lor.
if for own stay, if happy, can afford, then buy lor.

decisions made simple.

So is RM510k for 1400 sq ft in Vista Kiara a reasonable price or not?

let's just say i can't afford rm510k for vista kiara at this moment.

can try condo at bukit prima pelangi

I like ur comment mate...very positive experience investor oh

Was thinking to get one unit here

Is it worth buying? Repainted in 2017 (i think) and looks good... Any comments from current residents about the management? Looking for own stay

You better to have a site visit and take a look. For older condo at MK, particularly those near to One MK and 163, many units were rented out to those supermarkets and restaurants as hostels for their foreign workers. Come around the time these workers go to work or the time they finish work. I am not discriminating these foreign labor. They have the rights to stay if their employers pay the rents. But, sometimes, their behaviours are annoying. Vista Kiara from what I hear and I observed seems to have a lot of foreign labor.

Yes, I've visited .. didn't see any foreign workers... but i went during weekends
Did you live there before?