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SuggieBliss
post Jun 19 2011, 07:00 PM

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When u convert RM20K to USD$, it's not alot, actually it very little. I think if u only got 20k, u can try the nearest Singapore.

Alot of countries would ask you how much u have (money) and if you're not carrying enough or dont have enough, they'd ask you why u wanna enter their country with so little, even if its just for a vacation, some countries expect a certain money amount for you to enter. -From what i heard.
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post Jun 19 2011, 07:58 PM

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I think your best choice is to jump aeroplane. Risky though. tongue.gif

If I were you, I wouldn't put much hope on migrating 'end of this year'. It's not easy to get a green card in US even if you work there for a few years on a proper working visa. They have been very strict since the 911 incident.

What are you working as here in Malaysia?

Try going to the states for holiday first before you decide that you are able to handle the lifestyle there. Not everyone will get used to a westerner's lifestyle. Many people come back to Malaysia when they find the grass on the other side isn't really that much greener.
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post Jun 19 2011, 09:01 PM

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I have a friend who went to US in his twenties and that was in the early 70s. He was a waiter, an odd job man, a cook and finally he made it as a middle class guy there. Gave up his citizenship and became a US citizen and his name changed with the 'Bin' in the centre to the 'Bin' at the front. Finally tyhings went sour and became penniless and that is when he thought of home. Called his mom here in Kedah and found out she was also not feeling well due to old age. He came back and was suprised at the development of his former country and decided not to go back to US.

Now I see a Malay man making his way to the border every 2 or 3 months to stamp his passport. I asked him if he has regretted giving up his Malaysian citizenship and you can guess his answer. Think carefully, think twice. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 03:42 AM

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TS,

I think the bigger picture right here is NOT about HOW to permanently migrate to US, it is about YOU running away from your problems.

Let's just say you qualify to migrate to the US, you are actually not solving your root problem at all. What you are doing is just running away from your problems rather than solving your problems. There is a very big difference between solving and running away from it.

You are all for running away from it judging from the irrationality of your responses and the sudden urge to migrate away from the small confine of your problems. Even if you successfully migrate to the States, I reckon you will not be that much of a happy man as well. I've been flying in and out of US for the past 3 years; and living among the westerners, it's a different world right here and basically I think you need to be mentally prepared for what to come and think it through rather than just simply say.. "I WANT TO MIGRATE".

But if you really made up your mind, I wish you all the very best, think you will need it.


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post Jun 21 2011, 03:56 AM

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Perhaps counselling/therapy would do you some good. But as it is, the USA is not having a good time themselves with unemployment rate soaring every month and homeless ppl everyday - even with min. wage jobs they cannot afford the rental.

Instead of U.S., why not the philippines? English speaking country for the most part, so its not some mexico si no comprendo place. Probably better chance to get PR/work permit there given ur limited finances (sorry, but immi rules are harsh), and i believe noone will noe you there?

I think the first start is to try to get a job though, i.e. you see, a person pops up with no credit history and wants a loan .. if you dun have job history immi ppl will start to wonder why you wanna migrate. I believe if you can hack it in a diff environment, maybe a change of state (yes, the negeri) to the northern parts if you;re from KL/down south might clear your mind up + it gives a fresh start with zero to minimum immi issues.

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post Jun 21 2011, 02:00 PM

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I agree with ceo684. Furthermore, the attitude of the US people are more aggressive and 'in your face', are you sure you can withstand the insults and supremacy attitude that you might encounter? If the comments here are already hurting you, some of the people there are more insensitive and blunt, and they really know how to attack other people self esteem. (This is based on my observation while backpacking and my expat friends here)

I could recommend some people who do healing works (not the magic hocus pocus stuff) but rather using some techniques (such as Ho'oponopono, Releasing, Law of Attraction). Coincidentally they are from the US, who decided to settle down here. Personally my mindset have changed a lot and I have grown into a stronger and more independent person after meeting them. It is amazing at how shifting your perspective can change your whole outlook of the world.

If i'm not mistaken the working holidays for NZ has been frozen (if not mistaken someone mentioned up there). You'll have to check again.


Added on June 21, 2011, 2:02 pmOh btw, if you're still hellbent on migrating.. my friend works in Guangzhou as an English teacher. It's much cheaper there. I could put you in contact with her, too. But I'd rather you work from inside first, rather than running away.

This post has been edited by Chica: Jun 21 2011, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(cywings @ Jun 20 2011, 01:42 PM)
TS,

I think the bigger picture right here is NOT about HOW to permanently migrate to US, it is about YOU running away from your problems.

Let's just say you qualify to migrate to the US, you are actually not solving your root problem at all. What you are doing is just running away from your problems rather than solving your problems. There is a very big difference between solving and running away from it.

You are all for running away from it judging from the irrationality of your responses and the sudden urge to migrate away from the small confine of your problems. Even if you successfully migrate to the States, I reckon you will not be that much of a happy man as well. I've been flying in and out of US for the past 3 years; and living among the westerners, it's a different world right here and basically I think you need to be mentally prepared for what to come and think it through rather than just simply say.. "I WANT TO MIGRATE".

But if you really made up your mind, I wish you all the very best, think you will need it.
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post Jun 21 2011, 05:16 PM

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Why not you think other country like Zimbabwe or Ghana or Timur Timor...its far far away right..!.

Me..spent almost 10 year oversea..working like shit,double standard ,racism..bla bla ...now I at beautiful islands..Perhentian Island...wow! wonderful life here!!!
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post Jun 21 2011, 05:40 PM

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Jump aeroplane then pray u don't get caught. After that go find a job and get exploited. Minimum pay and maximum workload IF yr LUCKY. Don't forget unemployment rate in US is >9%. Then after 10 years u find that u still have no money, weak, sick and dying to come back to M'sia... hahha
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QUOTE(cywings @ Jun 21 2011, 03:42 AM)
TS,

I think the bigger picture right here is NOT about HOW to permanently migrate to US, it is about YOU running away from your problems.

Let's just say you qualify to migrate to the US, you are actually not solving your root problem at all. What you are doing is just running away from your problems rather than solving your problems. There is a very big difference between solving and running away from it.

You are all for running away from it judging from the irrationality of your responses and the sudden urge to migrate away from the small confine of your problems. Even if you successfully migrate to the States, I reckon you will not be that much of a happy man as well. I've been flying in and out of US for the past 3 years; and living among the westerners, it's a different world right here and basically I think you need to be mentally prepared for what to come and think it through rather than just simply say.. "I WANT TO MIGRATE".

But if you really made up your mind, I wish you all the very best, think you will need it.
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Yes, migrating is not a overnight decision. It takes a few years to mentally and physically prepare for it. Not everyone is suitable for migration.

QUOTE(Samurai @ Jun 21 2011, 05:16 PM)
Why not you think other country like Zimbabwe or Ghana or Timur Timor...its far far away right..!.

Me..spent almost 10 year oversea..working like shit,double standard ,racism..bla bla ...now I at beautiful islands..Perhentian Island...wow! wonderful life here!!!
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Malaysia islands are very beautiful. How nice to be you to be able to work on island. Hehe tongue.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(mercury8400 @ Jun 21 2011, 05:40 PM)
Jump aeroplane then pray u don't get caught. After that go find a job and get exploited. Minimum pay and maximum workload IF yr LUCKY. Don't forget unemployment rate in US is >9%. Then after 10 years u find that u still have no money, weak, sick and dying to come back to M'sia... hahha
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I bet you that TS won't even get a visa with his record, much less be able to get on a plane to the US. The US Embassy can be strict with visas and US Customs are even stricter with entry.

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post Jun 21 2011, 11:24 PM

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TS,

The only way that I can think of is, apply for further study in US, register, go to US then dissapear...but of course 20K is not even enuf to pay 1 sem course....this is because using excuse for education your visa will approve easier....

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post Jun 22 2011, 03:13 PM

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with 20k,

I dont think its enough..
U can only maybe survive around 1-2 weeks.

unless U can get work with in that time of period.

Somemore U reason is too personal. It noting wrong.
but U dont have any strong reason why they want to accept you.

example, they are looking for doctors that can contribute to country health.

So they will usually take anyone that will benefits their country.
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post Jun 29 2011, 03:18 PM

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dude. with that kind of experience i suggest to you grow up and work hard. you dont think after you migrate to US .. finally i can get rid all this thing and start new life. you cant simply like that. remember you will miss alot in malaysia and you gonna lose it once you choose to migrate.

work hard and saving..
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post Jul 1 2011, 05:54 PM

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20k .. you cant make it there.

you have attitude problem. you cant solve your problems here, how can you can live a good life at a place you never experience before?

you're an asian. they're whites. there are differences and gaps between you and them. do you think you can mingle well there in short time?
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post Oct 26 2011, 05:38 AM

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QUOTE(Chica @ Jun 21 2011, 06:00 AM)
I agree with ceo684. Furthermore, the attitude of the US people are more aggressive and 'in your face', are you sure you can withstand the insults and supremacy attitude that you might encounter? If the comments here are already hurting you, some of the people there are more insensitive and blunt, and they really know how to attack other people self esteem. (This is based on my observation while backpacking and my expat friends here)

I could recommend some people who do healing works (not the magic hocus pocus stuff) but rather using some techniques (such as Ho'oponopono, Releasing, Law of Attraction). Coincidentally they are from the US, who decided to settle down here. Personally my mindset have changed a lot and I have grown into a stronger and more independent person after meeting them. It is amazing at how shifting your perspective can change your whole outlook of the world.

If i'm not mistaken the working holidays for NZ has been frozen (if not mistaken someone mentioned up there). You'll have to check again.


Added on June 21, 2011, 2:02 pmOh btw, if you're still hellbent on migrating.. my friend works in Guangzhou as an English teacher. It's much cheaper there. I could put you in contact with her, too. But I'd rather you work from inside first, rather than running away.
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This is interesting. Do they employ Malaysians to teach English too? I would like to take a gap year to China ...
How did your friend do it?
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post Oct 26 2011, 10:09 AM

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Ouch. Where's the TS now? Best advice, get your problems sorted not by running away, get a job (your unemployment period is way too long) and save up if you really want to migrate.
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post Nov 12 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ Oct 26 2011, 05:38 AM)
This is interesting. Do they employ Malaysians to teach English too? I would like to take a gap year to China ...
How did your friend do it?
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Sorry it was YangShuo. She simply started 1-2 months doing volunteering to teach English - food and board was provided for. (IMHO - her English is passable but still need help in Grammar) .. but she is good with the students.. they offered her 6 months contract for about RM2k (pretty high when compared to very low cost of living there, she said she only spent about RM200 for food and clubbing, and RM400 for house rent) and they renewed the contract again.. so currently she's already 1.5 years there and her contract finishes next year.

Yes she's MAlaysian

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