I'm abit confused...
Can someone guide me, I need to DIY my ceiling light replacement....?
Wiring guide : 3 color wire (green, blue,black), Which one neutral, live and earth
Wiring guide : 3 color wire (green, blue,black), Which one neutral, live and earth
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Jun 11 2011, 12:02 AM, updated 15y ago
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I'm abit confused...
Can someone guide me, I need to DIY my ceiling light replacement....? |
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Jun 11 2011, 12:06 AM
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Please do not DIY if you even not know how to differentiate green, blue and black in the first place.
Hire electrician to do the job, electricity can be dangerous, if not know to handle it. Standard Black - live Blue - neutral Green - earth. This post has been edited by cherroy: Jun 11 2011, 12:07 AM |
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Jun 11 2011, 12:08 AM
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green = ground
blue = neutral black/red = life most importantly the main switchbox is off n use test pen to detect any power leak... |
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Jun 11 2011, 02:06 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 11 2011, 12:06 AM) Please do not DIY if you even not know how to differentiate green, blue and black in the first place. Hire electrician to do the job, electricity can be dangerous, if not know to handle it. Standard Black - live Blue - neutral Green - earth. QUOTE(HarDiE @ Jun 11 2011, 12:08 AM) green = ground there is no fix standard on wiring color code, different country different std blue = neutral black/red = life most importantly the main switchbox is off n use test pen to detect any power leak... for single phase, normal 3 core wire: Brown=L Blue=N Green=E wire pull by electrician/ provided by developer: red/yellow/blue=L Black=N Green=E link:http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_2/2.html This post has been edited by skng03: Jun 11 2011, 02:09 AM |
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Jun 11 2011, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jun 11 2011, 02:06 AM) there is no fix standard on wiring color code, different country different std That's the confusing part...for single phase, normal 3 core wire: Brown=L Blue=N Green=E wire pull by electrician/ provided by developer: red/yellow/blue=L Black=N Green=E link:http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_5/chpt_2/2.html red/yellow/blue=L Black=N or Blue=N Black=L |
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Jun 11 2011, 09:44 AM
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1) Write down the colour code on existing connector
2) Check whether any indication there. 3) Normally Earth should be Green 4) Use Test Pen to check, if LIGHT UP meant is LIVE 5) The list one should then (without light up when use Test Pen) should be neutral * Please correct if wrong statement This post has been edited by Jo_da48: Jun 11 2011, 09:45 AM |
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Jun 11 2011, 12:21 PM
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most important is have a, working test pen...
and also some basic common sense... and ur all good to go |
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Jun 11 2011, 07:27 PM
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for malaysian wiring colour code
Red/Yellow/Blue - Live Black - Neutral Green - Ground/earth. but for electrical appliances (plug/fluorescent fitting) it's depend on the country of origin.. it's a little bit different like. Brown/red - Live Blue/black - Neutral green - ground. This post has been edited by wannur: Jun 11 2011, 07:28 PM |
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Jun 11 2011, 11:45 PM
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Jun 12 2011, 09:58 AM
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what i do is use a test pen to find the live wire
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Jun 12 2011, 12:25 PM
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Jun 13 2011, 11:28 PM
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easy rules:
Earth= always green Neutral= No colour, ie black or white Live= Coloured except green! the different colour of live wire used by the electrician is to differentiate type, zone etc... |
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Jun 21 2011, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(ryansia @ Jun 13 2011, 11:28 PM) easy rules: Thanks all for the help. I "survived" and successfully installed my ceiling light via DIY.Earth= always green Neutral= No colour, ie black or white Live= Coloured except green! the different colour of live wire used by the electrician is to differentiate type, zone etc... Very helpful information, indeed! mywife liked this post
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Jun 22 2011, 09:22 AM
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Good thread indeed. Last time, I tried to install my own lamp, just 1 lamp (the wiring is there already, hanging on the ceiling), i googled around and it's very confusing but i managed to do it ..
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Jun 22 2011, 12:20 PM
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for lamp fittings, Neutral and Live is not important. Both connected to the terminals anyway. Just make sure the earth wire is not connected to one of the terminals or the Live not connected to the metal body...
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Jun 24 2011, 06:55 PM
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who suggest replace a light need to hire a electrical man?? so malaysian... lols..
replace the light is js a piece of cake la, even ah poh can do that. most important is don't forget to switch off the power first. |
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Sep 8 2014, 06:03 PM
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Reviving an old thread to get advice from sifus.......
I jut bought bout 3 dozen lights for new house, mostly ceiling mounted led panels. The shop's installer say standard rate is RM15 to install one light. I reckon each job will require : 2 screws to fit light to ceiling, connect 2 wires, pop the cover back. Most of the ceiling is plaster ceiling board. Drilling not a problem. So I am thinking to DIY myself. Before I fried myself or burn a row of houses, can sifus check if I got the theory part right : Most of my lighting points like this : ![]() Q1 The middle wire can be red, yellow or blue. I think this is the wireman's way to identify each 'loop' Correct? Q2 So the Black = Neutral; Red/Yellow/Blue = Live; Green is Earth. Correct? Q3 The LED lights has 2 tiny blue wires. These are to be connected to the Neutral (Black) and Live (R/Y/B) Which way also OK. Correct? Q4 No need to use Earth (Green) wire. Correct ah? Q5 There are two black and green wires each because of looping. Just leave them alone. Don't pull out. Correct? This post has been edited by Fazab: Sep 8 2014, 06:14 PM |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE(Fazab @ Sep 8 2014, 06:03 PM) Reviving an old thread to get advice from sifus....... Q1 = that is live wire. Not loop. And probably a 3phase wire. Which each color represent R, S, T. I jut bought bout 3 dozen lights for new house, mostly ceiling mounted led panels. The shop's installer say standard rate is RM15 to install one light. I reckon each job will require : 2 screws to fit light to ceiling, connect 2 wires, pop the cover back. Most of the ceiling is plaster ceiling board. Drilling not a problem. So I am thinking to DIY myself. Before I fried myself or burn a row of houses, can sifus check if I got the theory part right : Most of my lighting points like this : ![]() Q1 The middle wire can be red, yellow or blue. I think this is the wireman's way to identify each 'loop' Correct? Q2 So the Black = Neutral; Red/Yellow/Blue = Live; Green is Earth. Correct? Q3 The LED lights has 2 tiny blue wires. These are to be connected to the Neutral (Black) and Live (R/Y/B) Which way also OK. Correct? Q4 No need to use Earth (Green) wire. Correct ah? Q5 There are two black and green wires each because of looping. Just leave them alone. Don't pull out. Correct? Q2 = correct. Q3 = if the wire have same color, that mean no polarity. Which way also can. Q4 = if your downlight casing is metal, you need to ground it. In case the light short and somebody touch it. Q5 = correct. If you pull out, others light will not light. |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:45 PM
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how you guys connect the wires together?
using those terminal blocks http://www.mdnsupplies.co.uk/shop/terminal-block-lg.jpg or these electrical caps? http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TFH/Proje...U_WIRCON_01.JPG This post has been edited by idoblu: Sep 8 2014, 08:48 PM |
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Sep 8 2014, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 8 2014, 08:45 PM) how you guys connect the wires together? Can be say, all the local using terminal block. using those terminal blocks http://www.mdnsupplies.co.uk/shop/terminal-block-lg.jpg or these electrical caps? http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TFH/Proje...U_WIRCON_01.JPG Most of the western is using cap. But I using molex connector. |
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