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idoblu
post Sep 8 2014, 08:45 PM

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how you guys connect the wires together?
using those terminal blocks
http://www.mdnsupplies.co.uk/shop/terminal-block-lg.jpg

or these electrical caps?
http://hostedmedia.reimanpub.com/TFH/Proje...U_WIRCON_01.JPG

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post Sep 8 2014, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 8 2014, 08:51 PM)
Can be say, all the local using terminal block.

Most of the western is using cap.

But I using molex connector.
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molex needs special crimping tool right but for lights is okay, i guess
terminal blocks - i scared it melts and the two terminal touch.
caps - i dont know if it will work or come loose for big gauge wire and one small wire (like you connect those drivers to existing wiring) i guess needs to get the correct size cap which i do not know how to determine

any advice?

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post Sep 8 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 8 2014, 09:06 PM)
Hard to reach area caps are good. If high current use caps need to be careful may burn if not properly screw, loose connection will cause heat=burn=fire.
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nowadays the terminal blocks also low quality. sometimes the screw got no thread wan, or bad thread so they come loose and arc. got no branded terminal blocks?


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post Sep 8 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 8 2014, 09:07 PM)
Molex connector are more secure and can run higher amp. Can plug/unplug without switch off. No wrong connection pluging since it have a 1way connect. But yes, it need tool to clamp.

Terminal block have been using for very longtime. If the wire size is big, use bigger terminal. It doesn't melt. But after some longtime, the plastic start to degrade. The bad about it is that the thick gauge wire will easy broken if the screw too tight.

Caps is easy to use. No tool use. Just hand. You need to twist the wire together first. Than twist the cap into the wire till it lock. Don't worry about it. It pretty secure. Unless you not lock it tight enough. It come in many size. So use correctly.

There is another type of cap. Which also twist the wire and cap in. Instead of twist the cap, this cap need tool to clamp it. Pretty common in local here.
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if one wire is thick (those stiff type - not many strands) and one wire is tiny (very thin), I think the cap may not hold them and the thin wire may come loose. if both wires same size I think i have more confidence they be ok in the long run.

Im gonna get a bunch of different size to try but have to waste the whole bag if its wrong

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post Sep 8 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 8 2014, 09:24 PM)
Easy. Teach you some trick.

Strip the insulator of both wire longer. Twist together. Than bend the wire u shape. Put the cap in. When you bend the wire u shape, it lock both wire. So you can't pull the small wire out.
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ok will try that. ya man if i use terminal blocks, i also scared the thin wire will break if screwed on too tight...sigh
btw developers where got put terminal blocks for you? they leave it bare. they cut the insulation a bit and twist together.

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post Sep 8 2014, 09:34 PM

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you see how thin these wires....
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 8 2014, 11:11 PM)
If Wires too thin, the block will not secure the wires properly. Fold back the wires into the wire insulator, so the top is copper, bottom is wire insulator, put it on the terminal block. This way you secure the wires, and copper are properly touching the conductor.
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I wonder if I should not strip the insulation at all. Just tighten the screw till it cuts into the insulation. I always do that for three pin plugs tongue.gif

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post Sep 9 2014, 08:43 PM

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depends on what kind of lights. if concealed downlights, they just pop into the hole and the spring clip prevents it from falling down. no screws required. the plaster ceiling support beams are aluminum so magnet wont help. you can cut open a hole to see where they are i suppose and patch the hole back. maybe stud detector can work?
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