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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, Downing 19!

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kiLLua the babap
post Jul 18 2011, 11:22 AM

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lol moment..after 1st penalty, adam celebrated by spank andy's azz

then after 2nd penalty, andy did spank back adam's.. ghey rclxms.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Jul 18 2011, 11:20 AM)
Seriously the last 2 goals world class?  doh.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:30 AM

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There is no such thing as world class goal. Goals can be described as beatiful goals, easy goals, flukes and own goals. You can expand this further. smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:31 AM

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how about liverpool goals?
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Jul 18 2011, 11:20 AM)
Seriously the last 2 goals world class?  doh.gif
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The freekick was defo classy. Safee's first was easy tap in but the 2nd was very Torres-eqsue.

This post has been edited by hfi: Jul 18 2011, 11:41 AM
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Jul 18 2011, 11:35 AM)
aiya diff standard ma

liverpool standard and arsenal is too far away

i am sure arsenal is much much better in every position compare to liverpool

way to go liverpool you need to have a lot of good player to make up a good team.......

u see  malaysia can score 3 goals against liverpool compare to arsenal.
one goal also cannot get thru

LIverpool you r long way to go
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Yet another retard. When M'sia played their heart out to prove that they are not a walk in the park, people like you come out and implying things like "Malaysia only managed to score because Liverpool is a weaker team compared to Arsenal"?

I pray that you are not a Malaysian cause awak ni hanya memalukan nama Malaysian sahaja.
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:42 AM

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hey guys. finally able to give my thoughts on that awesome day. let me just tell u how brilliant u all are. even strangers talk to u, just because you are a fellow red. the banners all around the stadiums, holding of scarfs during YNWA tho they played the song a tad too many times till it lost its value and meaning in it. i seriously dont get what rajagopal is unhappy about. as i thought malaysia played good at times albeit i feel liverpool especially the two 2nd half goals was giving a lil face. idk. thats my opinion. the 1st safee goal was a mistake by hansen. heck, we even cheered on for malaysia at times especially when they scored...i know i did. safiq's one was a gem tho jones is at fault.. wasnt rajagopal aware of that ? anyways, i dont have much complains, this is my first time watching a live match in our national stadium n what better way than to get to watch my heroes in red in flesh. i was at the green gate thru gate 2M, 108, so was able to recognise the players quite easily. just a good view right smack in the middle. the downside was, the sun altho i didnt mind it for 30 mins doh.gif and sadly, people sitting on the stairs till there is no pathway to walk. i wonder what if there is an emergency like if someone faint n all. heck even ppl smokes when we are packed sardine like in the stands. this is just plain stupid and uncivilized in our part. oh well, sad to say too, rubbish all over the place. come on malaysians, how are we suppose to move forward here ey ? be a more responsible and civilized citizen will ya ? wink.gif

back to the football, i know aqua played well n he was the missing link. but no offence, this is just our national team, we will have to wait for a more proper opponent, in a weather/surroundings same over in the uk, unlike the high humidity here to actually judge him. i thought he was given lots of space n time. n u dont get much of that in the bpl. dont get me wrong, im actually one of his supporters as i've seen him play a couple of times back in his roma days n was sad to see him struggle to cope in his first season here. raul still finding his feet clearly in terms of match fitness due to missing the first game in china. credit to adam, his first goal ! he and cole was the outstanding one in the first half. both trying their best to supply something to carroll. anyways, i salivate at the prospect of aqua suarez n gerrard playing together or even adam as they are all intelligent players with kuyt and lucas and henderson the more hardworking efficient ones around. all supporting carroll. with the extra numbers we have in the squad am sure jova is pretty much on his way out. possibly even raul, n poulsen. lastly, hoping to see the likes of coady, flanno, robinson, shelvey build on the performances to further enhance their claims for first time in the near future. sadly pacheco wasnt given a run out.. wilson is still yet to convince me of his worth. and insua seems to have build his physique a lil more. cant wait for our next friendly against hull to see downing and doni get a chance to play. interesting to see how kenny n clarke sets the team about as for now, nobody knows, its just a guessing game smile.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 18 2011, 11:40 AM)
The freekick was defo classy. Safee's first was easy tap in but the 2nd was very Torres-eqsue.
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Fist was gud 1, was prety impress wif the speed n placing of the ball, 2nd was keeper mistake n third was outside so nt really impressed...


Added on July 18, 2011, 11:51 am
QUOTE(sharulzzz @ Jul 18 2011, 11:35 AM)
aiya diff standard ma

liverpool standard and arsenal is too far away

i am sure arsenal is much much better in every position compare to liverpool

way to go liverpool you need to have a lot of good player to make up a good team.......

u see  malaysia can score 3 goals against liverpool compare to arsenal.
one goal also cannot get thru

LIverpool you r long way to go
you never walk alone
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Seriously dun get it how can u compare both the games... N on top of everything its a dam pre season game whr u test new strategies n formation, give minutes to ur players to get sharp n fitness up.. Talking bout Arsenal, wat happened to the 2nd game, the game afta Malaysia? doh.gif Baseless points... N based on wat u r saying Arsenal r much2 better than Liverpool compare in all the position? Did they win any trophy RECENTLY WIF THEIR SUPERB PLAYERS??? doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

Argentina had a better line up compare every postion wif Uruguay but did they win? Tat shows how deep is ur knowledge in football... Even if u gone compare Man U wif Arsenal, I have to admit Arsenal have far more quality squad but end of the day wen it comes trophy arsenal is no whr near Man U n y is tat?? Think bout it n get ur points rite brader...

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Jul 18 2011, 11:45 AM)
Fist was gud 1, was prety impress wif the speed n placing of the ball, 2nd was keeper mistake n third was outside so nt really impressed...
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He may be offside but the quality of the finishing is indisputable. If it was Torres or Carroll, we would be praising the goal to no ends.
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post Jul 18 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ik3da @ Jul 18 2011, 11:42 AM)
Yet another retard. When M'sia played their heart out to prove that they are not a walk in the park, people like you come out and implying things like "Malaysia only managed to score because Liverpool is a weaker team compared to Arsenal"?

I pray that you are not a Malaysian cause awak ni hanya memalukan nama Malaysian sahaja.
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this i agree. i honestly say that we are still not as good in terms of keeping possesion as arsenal is. and our defence look shaky at times without lucas around in front of them. spearing ventured forward a couple of times. u must understand, arsenal played at night where it is cooler and higher humidty, while we started in the evening while the sun is still around. plus, when msia got beaten soundly 4-0 by ars, m sure raja isnt happy with the team n gave them the hairdryer treatment. plus we cheered when msia came on to warm up. more fans around adds on to more determination. and this is our very fast time here in msia. we do not know much what to expect whereas this is arsenal's 4th visit the previous back in 1999. but just because msia put 3 past our defence does not mean arsenal is better than us. football like most sports is a funny game. u can beat an european champion in barca one day and 3 days later lose to the likes of wigan and wolves in the league. does this mean wigan/wolves is better than barca? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 18 2011, 11:51 AM)
He may be offside but the quality of the finishing is indisputable. If it was Torres or Carroll, we would be praising the goal to no ends.
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Its just my opinion n even if it was Carroll or Torres I feel there is nothing to shout about... I was more impressed wif Ngog's finish, nice ball control n first touch n a strong short towards the top right corner...


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QUOTE(Supercurl @ Jul 18 2011, 11:58 AM)
nobody want to talk about easy goal Liverpool??
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Im sure Rjagopal has been doing it wif his players... tongue.gif

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1) Arsenal in a different class to liverpool? What a laugh. Arsenal have been in a long run of empty-handed seasons. They are NOT 'much much better'... not in ANY way.

2) Malaysia scored good goals. World Class? Maybe only the free-kick, which was breath-taking. The first Safee goal was lucky (but you need luck in football). and the second one, tho definitely OFFSIDE, great finishing by Safee, we've seen players like Torres or Rooney miss chances like that, but Safee took it very nicely.

3) Why the selective bashing? Liverpool fans did not in any way 'betray' the Malaysian Team. There was no boo-ing or backlash from the fans after the game. Rajagopal and other narrow-minded malaysians have chosen to take turn a blind eye and blindly criticizing what, is definitely the best set of fans-display ever.

4) Yes, some of liverpool's goals were easy goals... but isnt that football? We've seen tap-ins and defensive mistakes in World cups and champions leagues and EPL games. Coz thats football, Capitalizing on defensive errors (ie. easy goals). You want liverpool to score all goals from 60 yards? Stupid!

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QUOTE(Supercurl @ Jul 18 2011, 11:58 AM)
nobody want to talk about easy goal Liverpool??
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Yup very easy goals...my grandma can score that. Since it is so easy, I think if you play for Liverpool against Malaysia on Saturday, you can score 12 goals instead of 6. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Supercurl @ Jul 18 2011, 11:58 AM)
nobody want to talk about easy goal Liverpool??
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Nobody want to feed the troll apparently.
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post Jul 18 2011, 12:11 PM

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I think the trolls are one of the many hardcore Malaysia fans who were butthurt because the turnout of the red army is too much, as mentioned as coach Rajagopal. But he needs to take note that there are quite a number of foreigners as well, like Singaporeans, Thai, Indonesians, etc that came all the way to support Liverpool FC.

They know if the national team is not facing the Reds, the attendance won't be that much. I too understand Rajagopal's butthurt-ness, and since he is a Man U fan too. Thats why many trolls around here after the match...lol

Sad but true about the attendance part. I don't think the attendance will be the same when we play against Singapore next. I support Malaysia and all, but this is Liverpool's 1st visit to Malaysia. Heck I think if Reina, Gerrard, Henderson, Johnson made it to the match against us, there will be even more people tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Supercurl @ Jul 18 2011, 11:58 AM)
nobody want to talk about easy goal Liverpool??
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easy goals for liverpool or m'sia lack of judgement in defending??
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juz want to share..me was at the 3rd floor, violet gate beside the big screen.

there was a bunch people who made origami/paper aeroplane and they sat at the very last seats
threw the planes and flying into the crowd,field

in the end, somehow 1 of the plane managed to fly trough half the stadium and landed on FRU guards at the entrance.
we all then clapped and rclxm9.gif enjoying like CHILDISH...yes it was littering but worth for the memory
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QUOTE(all blacks @ Jul 18 2011, 11:59 AM)
Its just my opinion n even if it was Carroll or Torres I feel there is nothing to shout about... I was more impressed wif Ngog's finish, nice ball control n first touch n a strong short towards the top right corner...
Would you take it away from Ngog had he been offside ? I think you have not considered the technical aspect as well as the degree of difficulty in the execution. If you watch the replay, you'll see that Safee had a keeper to beat and a difficult angle to work with which means he had to carefully place his shot - to top it off he was under the pressure from a defender. It was a difficult but well executed goal. One you would normally expect from top class players.
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jul 18 2011, 02:21 AM)
hey .. dont blame me.. Mikeshashimi drag me in here...  tongue.gif

its just so happen that i felt provoked by Liverpool fans goading their liverpool shirts in Stadium National Bukit Jalil the other day so i voice my opinion in the Malaysia thread. Not that i gang up to strip you of your shirt or anything. Nor do i use the police force to control what specific colour of shirt that you wear.

what trigger Mike's button is this comment
So any "Liverpool jersey wearing Malaysia supporter" here want to prove that i am WRONG by commiting to also go to support Malaysia at the Singapore game?

On the contrary, are there any "Liverpool jersey wearing Malaysia supporter" want to prove that i, and Rajagobal, is RIGHT by NOT wanting to go support our national team vs Singapore? wink.gif

i dont mind being wrong. But by majority, i doubt it wink.gif
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I see we're revisiting an old topic again. Now let me first say this. Since our last discussion, I've made it a point to follow the national team play, beginning with the Suzuki Cup Final win over Indonesia. I've noticed we have quality players especially in the form of Safee Sali, Ahmad Fakri Shaarani, Safiq Rahim and S.Kunanlan. They may not be at the top of everyone's list but they are the players I've singled out. I only wished that Safee Sali were a little younger so he'd have a longer career ahead though he isn't exactly an old man at 27. For the benefit of the national team, I'm hoping that Safiq will finally decide to play in Indonesia to further improve his game. From what I've seen, you'll be hard pressed to find a better striker of the ball in Asia.

What's my point? If this trend continues, fans will naturally return despite the increasing popularity of the EPL. Supporting one doesn't mean not supporting the other. I saw many fans with Liverpool kits also having Malaysian headbands for example, or face paintings.

Also, it was just a friendly game. Liverpool's first visit to Malaysia ever and the first ever time over 90% of Liverpool fans here have EVER seen the team play live. Some have been fans for 20 odd years. I don't expect everyone to understand the magnitude of the occasion especially if you just casually support an EPL club. For some, it was and is a chance of a lifetime.

Now on the topic of helping the national team regain support, I've always felt it was more fruitful to guide fans rather than to talk down to them. The thing is many people either aren't articulate enough or do not have the necessary soft skills to do this. Instead you hear language like, "ah traitor to the country", "unpatriotic", etc. Now people can have a multitude of reasons for not being as passionate as you. Don't pretend to understand what they are because from what I've seen, not many are matured enough to understand what empathy is including our ministry. Their understanding of encouragement is to force. When national day comes everyone MUST fly the national flag. To promote the national car, we raised import duties on foreign cars to astronomical figures, forcing the average Malaysian to but local cars. It may take more work but I've always felt that understanding someone and addressing his concerns and issues bring about more permanent results. Then again, who likes more work right?

We now have a quality product in the form of our national team. Based on recent form, I'm confident we'll get pass Singapore. Can't say much about the Olympic Qualifiers though. Japan are a different class and we'll need to be at our best against Bahrain and Syria. In summary instead of sulking and acting out when you don't see the support you want. Try guiding and educating. Our discussions have convinced me to follow the national team again and I'm sure it will only be a matter of time before more follow suit.
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Jul 18 2011, 12:11 PM)
I think the trolls are one of the many hardcore Malaysia fans who were butthurt because the turnout of the red army is too much, as mentioned as coach Rajagopal. But he needs to take note that there are quite a number of foreigners as well, like Singaporeans, Thai, Indonesians, etc that came all the way to support Liverpool FC.

They know if the national team is not facing the Reds, the attendance won't be that much. I too understand Rajagopal's butthurt-ness, and since he is a Man U fan too. Thats why many trolls around here after the match...lol

Sad but true about the attendance part. I don't think the attendance will be the same when we play against Singapore next. I support Malaysia and all, but this is Liverpool's 1st visit to Malaysia. Heck I think if Reina, Gerrard, Henderson, Johnson made it to the match against us, there will be even more people tongue.gif
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Malaysia vs Indonesia full house also. Nothing new.

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