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 PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13

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post Jun 19 2011, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 19 2011, 01:10 AM)
it's basically the same thing
they changed the name only
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Heard news that Proton & Lotus splitting up...so mayb reason for name change? Kenot use Lotus name oledi!! Haha!
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post Jun 19 2011, 03:14 PM

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Happy Father's Day to ALL BLMers who are Fathers or gonna b Fathers soon...!!
Hv great day with all u love & who love u!! smile.gif
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post Jun 20 2011, 04:51 PM

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The main prob with car SCs (not matter what make) is that the mechs are not permanent...
Once they get the experience they need, those who can would leave & start their own workshops somewhere... wink.gif
So there'll alwaz be new INexperienced mechs in any SC. Therefore, the chances of getting an inexperienced mech to attend to yr car (& its probs) is VERY HIGH! sad.gif
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post Jun 20 2011, 06:24 PM

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Can anyone pls point out where the luggage boot sensor switch is? For 1.3 FL Exec Auto.
Looked for it like anything but seem 2escape my eyes! Mayb need 2chk my eyes? wink.gif
A pic wld help lots! Tks!
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post Jun 20 2011, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ June 20, 2011, 7:04 pm)
what is a luggage boot sensor???
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Switch that activates boot lamp/car alarm... wink.gif

Usually very easy 2find wan eg at 1 of hinges or where boot lid meets car body. But ... ??
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post Jun 20 2011, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 20 2011, 07:14 PM)
is this a new function for FL??
haha..never heard of it
i thought when u open the boot, the boot lamp will ON
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Nope. Not new function. wink.gif
It's the switch that turns on the boot lamp as well as activates the car alarm. Usually covered by a rubber cover eg same as the ones at the doors & the engine bonnet.

Those at the doors very easy to find. Engine bonnet one at front right of engine bay/edge.

Juz could not find the one for the boot la! sad.gif


Added on June 20, 2011, 7:39 pmMe trying 2find locations of various items in still quite new car lo. Lotsa differences between old Saga & this one!! Haha!
So kinda groping my way arnd whenever got time.

Feel it's good 2really know the innards of our ride. Helps alot sometimes when need arises. Agreed?


Added on June 20, 2011, 7:45 pmBtw I found the Reverse Sensor buzzer abit too soft...kenot hear clearly with radio/cd player on.
Reason? Cos of location on LHS behind luggage boot lining! Sound oledi cut down by being in boot & now more muffled by lining material! sad.gif

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post Jun 20 2011, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Jun 20 2011, 08:32 PM)
wow fill at 220kpa will save fuel?
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Higher air pressure in tyres reduce contact / subsequent friction with road surface & therefore lower rolling resistance...requiring less power to move the car, thus saving fuel! wink.gif

However, too high pressures or overly inflated tyres will reduce too much contact (friction) with road, thus affecting roadholding (grip). sad.gif
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post Jun 20 2011, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 20 2011, 09:44 PM)
proton called around 5

said the car can start liao

tomorrow, i will korek out the info liao
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Congrats on getting yr ride back! smile.gif
Yup, if can get info re cause of prob, do share share lo... TQ!
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post Jun 20 2011, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Jun 20 2011, 10:33 PM)
ok, this one can be solved by extending the sensor wire...and put the buzzer in the cabin, my fren relocate the buzzer near the rear passenger headrest...too loud now smile.gif
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Yup, thinking of doing juz that...
Too loud? Feel ok cos temp...only when reversing. wink.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 21 2011, 07:32 AM)
my 13" Ducaro GA (front) and M3 (Rear) both 35psi... safe or not?
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13" tyres of my ole ride was rec front 28psi rear 26psi. Normal rec is +2 psi for full loads.

Juz dun sacrifice safety juz to save abit of fuel...wink.gif


Added on June 21, 2011, 8:51 amAnyone using MedKlinn Asens Auto Ioniser in ther cars? Good? Kinda expensive @RM290 with 1 year warranty...so hoping it works well & really is reliable.

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post Jun 21 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 21 2011, 11:10 AM)
wtfbbq need to wait till 4pm baru car can release?

imma on flame mode liao

got appointment at 2.30pm, and car release at 4pm.

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Juz so that yu got no time to send car back until nxt day if car, after collection, got probs some more! Haha! Nice SC strategy la... rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 01:52 PM

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So many parts? And only RM2??
Like dat can go back many times also nvr mind, rite? Haha! rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 06:22 PM

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Fr wat I kno, the W value is the viscosity of the oil in Winter(W). Eg 5W is SAE5 in Winter conditions.
Since we don't hv winter here, this number has no relevance.

So wat's important is the SAE value of the oil at our ambient temperature. User Manual shows SAE50.
However, Proton SCs use SAE40...a thinner grade. Maybe cos of complaints recd in feedback of high FCs.

Since BLMs are still considered reasonably new, using a slightly lower viscosity oil poses no harm.

The final decision is the car owner's... wink.gif


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post Jun 21 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 21 2011, 07:27 PM)
Ah, one more factor contributing to bad FC is the rear drum brake. If its jammed, it will affect your FC, not by much, but it does affect.
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Yup, that's 1 more of many factors that may affect FC.
Besides the usual "Right Foot" & the above quoted, Factors may incl :
a. Quality of petrol used eg possible adulteration...natural or otherwise;
b. Disc pads & disc calipers functioning;
c. Road conditions;
d. Wind direction;
e. External Accessories & mods affecting car aerodynamics;
f. Wheels & Tyres esp non-standard/stock ones;
g. Air Filter - type & condition;
h. Exhaust system...type, age, condition, mods, etc;
i. Condition & Functioning of all moving parts associated with motion;
AND lots more... wink.gif

So let's enjoy our ride...& be less concerned abt variations in FCs of imdividual cars...

Happy Motoring, Everyone!!
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post Jun 21 2011, 10:10 PM

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Yup, ericmaxman...agree with yu on those points of yrs! Altho some effects are minimal, but...as we all kno, a bit here, a bit there, can finally give rise to those small variations in FCs between individual cars. wink.gif

As mentioned b4, even diff pumps at same petrol station may deliver diff amounts of petrol on auto-stop.
Even if we fill to brim till visible, there may be diff gas/air space trapped in tank... Etc, etc.

Most reliable way to chk/measure/compare FC between 2 cars is to :
1. Fill up container with exactly 1L petrol from same source;
2. Directly connect to engine intake manifold;
3. Drive car along a specific track till car stops;
4. Compare distance travelled.
ps. Did I miss out any steps? Mayb so... wink.gif


Added on June 21, 2011, 10:18 pmRe bodykits, probably so.
Why? Don't think most bodykits are "wind-tunnel" tested for good aerodynamics... More of aesthetics! Haha! rclxm9.gif

Frankly, FC is a very open debatable issue...haha! Can write books abt juz that!

PEACE. smile.gif

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post Jun 21 2011, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(Enclave Recruit @ Jun 21 2011, 10:45 PM)
The Good Year Ducaro tyres really suck...a LOT....

Proton could have at least given better tyres especially for the Saga SE.
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Yup, as yu said correctly...Proton could hv given better tyres... wink.gif
However, that wld hv increased the SP of yr SE! Agreed?
Proton knows that owners who want better tyres cld juz easily pop into tyre shop & get their preferred choice of tyres! Cos buyers might not like even Proton's choice of "better" tyres! Haha! rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 22 2011, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(rajivshm @ Jun 22 2011, 12:15 AM)
anyone heard abt tweeter brand hertz? is it good? price range?
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For ICE & sound acc, yr own ear is the BEST judge! Test it. Listen to its output. Then if yu like it, buy it...if it's within yr budget. icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 22 2011, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 22 2011, 08:22 AM)
Morning guys !

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Good morning 2yu, too! Hv a nice day since wheels are back! Cheers!! smile.gif
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post Jun 22 2011, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(omara86 @ Jun 22 2011, 08:29 AM)
this thread so active now... everyday i kena tinggal 3 - 4 pages...
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Hi bro! The more the merrier! rclxm9.gif


Added on June 22, 2011, 8:42 amBtw Michelin XM2 tyres appears 2b available for 185/60R14...Cost?
Was using XM1 in ole ride. Very lasting, good roadholding BUT kinda noisy... sad.gif

XM2 supposed 2b better. True?


Added on June 22, 2011, 8:44 amMy FL now shod with GY Ducaro. Ok la. However, appears some ppl found grip in wet lacking?
Traction value only "A" for it.
Mayb shld get "AA" ones?

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post Jun 22 2011, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(sam9557 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:54 AM)
I'm just drive betwee 80~90km/h on ordinary road & 110km/h on highway...that standard tyre ducaro ga just enough for me..lol
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Yup, atm my FL's stock GY Ducaro GA not bad. Hv driven in wet @100 - 110 kph on highway & not feel "slippery".
Had a similar set on old ride b4 changed to Michelin XM1 with new rims. Frankly not bad cos was replacement for its Eagle GA series.

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