So does that mean every time yu need to make a Warranty Claim, yu are gonna take out the whole "new" exhaust sys AND re-install back the ori sys?? Phew! No joke...

ps. Also if not wrong, Ori sys made of normal steel which will rust & cont 2rust...& rust...& rust as it's being kept in storage!

Dunno if only muffler cos he said "....juz intro me the muffler then he modify all piping n etc...."

If such mods done, then ....???

TQ. Like that, our fren, yngchung, can relax liao...
Not need 2Zzz with his muffler, etc!! Haha!

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Added on July 14, 2011, 4:20 pm@Aishinka : In reality, it shld hv been (110-94)bhp! Feel it's due2 misinformed or misunderstood reporter!! Haha!

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Added on July 14, 2011, 4:25 pmps. Mayb poor Eng OR worse still POOR MATHS? Haha!!

This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 14 2011, 04:25 PM

The list of items & procedures carried out (Billing List?) is reminiscent of the Billing Statement which one gets upon discharge fr a private hosp!!

Eg a simple procedure/item 2b charged is broken up in2 a no. of separate smaller procedures...AND billed like separate items... Haha! Smart biznes strategy, huh?

I feel the main point here is NOT ONLY if those items are necessary or not BUT whether they were actually replaced!!

A simple example of "fraud"(?) (as many new owners had observed) is the billing of the "Drain Plug Gasket" during (even @the 1st Service!) Engine Oil Changes! That gasket was NOT changed at all BUT merely RE-used!!

Even if those in the list were replaced, it's also felt that a few items were NOT necessary eg aircon gas replacement ( unless parts of aircon sys had 2b dismantled causing total gas loss)...

Too long post oledi... Sorry...

Yup, exactly what me did @SC here...hehe... That's how I saw Drain Plug Gasket Re-used altho later billed! Din make noise cos 1st visit & din wan 2b too "marked down". Also only RM3+ nia.

I was not "forced" 2install "Magnetrap" cos oledi had HDD magnets on my oil filter! Haha! Beat 'em 2it!

Nowadays one has 2b "Smart" Consumer. Or else kena conned wan...

If still within Warranty Period then kinda NO choice but 2do so at Proton SC.

However, yu can save some $$$ by going thru with Service Mgr re items 2b changed or proc 2b carried out. And telling him wat yu don wanna do or change if deemed unnecessary.

Alwaz rber yu're the PAYMASTER!!

Good4yu!!

Yu are one SMART Consumer!!

Hi...Juz2share...

Ever since I found out that our BLM/FL has a removable aircon filter in its own filter box, I'd decided to improve on the filtration quality cos the ori filter is juz a simple mesh type!! Worse than that of our room aircon!

Pic below : See the coarse mesh of ori filter?


NB. Sincere apologies...but appears 2hv prob uploading more pics for this post... Am gonna try new post as continuation...

So sorry but still kenot upload pics....will try do complete post @another time...

This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 14 2011, 09:43 PM

Me oledi DIY put in 3rd party paper type aircon filter...

Was trying to post pics to show steps....to share...BUT after uploading 1 pic, failed to do so for other pics! Dunno why... Frus la...

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Added on July 14, 2011, 9:55 pmThe earlier BLMs had a removable mesh filter with the mesh similar to our room split aircon units wan. That I feel should b good enuf as it is for our room aircons.
However, for my 2011 FL, that kinda mesh is no longer used! Instead, as yu can see fr my posted pic, the mesh is now VERY coarse...mayb to improve air flow force?

But this VERY coarse mesh wld not filter anything except very big particles of dirt!! So kinda like NO filter at all!

After getting 2 different 3rd party paper-type filters, I installed each one in turn and chose the better of the 2. I finally managed to fit this one into the Filter Box BUT w/o the Ori Filter.
Today, I managed to fit in the xtra filter with the Ori filter on top of it! Air blower force is still reasonably good @ Speed 2.

And so I wanted to share....BUT....so sorry...

This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 14 2011, 09:55 PM

Well, here goes another try to post & share my latest exploit...adventure?

Yup, to put in a 3rd party paper-type aircon filter...for better filtration of the cabin air in our BLMs/FLs...

First is a repeated pic posted earlier re the Ori aircon filter with its own plastic box frame : Pls hv a good look at the VERY COARSE mesh...


Next pic shows the Aircon Filter Box above the Aircon Blower Unit...located behind the Glove Compartment/Glovebox....
The Ori Aircon Filter goes into the space in the Aircon Box.


This is the 3rd party Paper-type Aircon Filter that I'd chosen to use out of 2 that I'd bought. At first (2 months ago), I'd installed ONLY the new filter alone ie w/o the Ori Filter BUT somehow felt that it was not a proper fit...

So what I did today was hopefully to improve on that...tried different ways to put in the Ori AND the New Filter into the Filter Box. At first few tries, the New Filter just would not stay & fit nicely.
Then with careful manipulation of BOTH filters simultaneously, I managed to fit in BOTH & with the New Filter sitting nicely + firmly just below the Ori Filter!!

Pic shows both inside the Filter Box...


This last pic shows the Filter Box front cover refitted onto the front of the Filter Box.


Phew! Finally posted....Eureka!! TQ for reading...

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Added on July 14, 2011, 10:24 pmps. Feel reason for posting failure due2 too large JPEG files!! Me reduced the image size using Photoshop & it worked!!

This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 14 2011, 10:24 PM

Yup, fully agree...

We are the PAYMASTERS!!

Yup, clinching a sale is 1st & foremost the priority of most salesppl!!
After deal is signed, not really matter ...

If one has been, are a salesperson, one shld understand, rite? Bread & Butter story...

Goes back to "Be a SMART Consumer"... In ALL purchases, small or huge! Haha!

Believe there ARE still HONEST salesppl arnd...

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Added on July 15, 2011, 10:46 amps. Hv a great wkend, Everybody!!

This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 15 2011, 10:46 AM

Me very lucky tho...
Told car wld b delivered on a Tue that week...Somehow it came on that same week's Thur...2 days later only!!

On chk-ing, last parts of car were assembled juz 7 days (fr QC labels on many car parts) b4 car was regd!!

Choose & Get a GOOD salesperson...helps a lot!!

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Added on July 15, 2011, 11:31 am@ahgan84 : Yup, PG Polymer Sealant says it does that..."...bonds directly to car's painted surface to protect them with a highly resistant barrier against oxidation, pollution, intense sun, .... etc"
500 ml bottle supposed enuf for 2 years use...

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Added on July 15, 2011, 11:33 amps. Me using "Platinum" version.

This post has been edited by zeone: Jul 15 2011, 11:33 AM

Don't think delay in delivery is caused by slower & more careful assembly at all!!
More due2 Admin Management & Distribution probs/incompetency...sometimes even intentional 2create a "heavy"(?) demand scenario!!

UPDATE: Re aircon xtra (3rd party) filter...

Juz now I sat at the back with aircon on Blower Speed 2. Can confirm that I can feel the cold air (fr centre vents) blowing at me!!
So xtra Ori & 3rd party filters together does NOT restrict the airflow significantly.

On chk-ing my FL assembly QC labels of engine/Tranx & other internal fittings, they were all done in only TWO(2) days!! No joke, rite?

ps. Human "moods" & errors are alwaz there...all assembled parts are supposedly checked & marked after so doing. Question is...does that QC fella REALLY look & chk b4 marking??

Congrats! Enjoy yr new ride!

The xxtra radiator-like part in front of cooling sys radiator @front of car?
If so, changing that does NOT & wld NOT affect engine power/running...

1.3 Saga is UNDERpowered. If feel that it's very much worse than b4 repairs done, pls go back to SC if still under warranty. Best option.

Good luck!