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TSsoulfly
post Nov 15 2005, 10:57 AM

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i believe it's more on the cpu rather than mobo
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post Nov 21 2005, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Oct 25 2005, 03:00 PM)
TCCD will work well on AMD 64 platform only. Intel motherboard lacks the required memory timings (tref,twcl,twr...) to get the TCCD modules working at high speeds.

If you plan to get TCCD and overclock up to 250MHz, I guess Intel motherboard should be able to take it... and maybe up to 275MHz. But surely it will be almost impossible to do 300MHz on Intel platform.
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well...still TCCD wud be suitable for Intel compared to UTT....besides ol skool BH5 that is...

hav a pair of TEAM DDR600 TCCD coming soon....my BH5 juz KOed...i know i wont reach DDr600 with Intel... tongue.gif coz my proc oso canot go dat far! hehe....can reach DDR550 super happy ledi!! still most prob proc limiting.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Mowgli @ Nov 21 2005, 06:56 PM)
well...still TCCD wud be suitable for Intel compared to UTT....besides ol skool BH5 that is...

hav a pair of TEAM DDR600 TCCD coming soon....my BH5 juz KOed...i know i wont reach DDr600 with Intel... tongue.gif coz my proc oso canot go dat far! hehe....can reach DDR550 super happy ledi!! still most prob proc limiting.. wink.gif
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Sorry for OT tongue.gif

y don't u try d43? i noticed that sum of 'em are capable of doin DDR550, some even reach 280FSB w/ 3-4-4-8... smile.gif
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post Nov 21 2005, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 21 2005, 10:11 PM)
Sorry for OT  tongue.gif

y don't u try d43? i noticed that sum of 'em are capable of doin DDR550, some even reach 280FSB w/ 3-4-4-8...  smile.gif
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SOME...not guaranteed... tongue.gif i prefer assurance...coz i dont hav much money to change here n there...TCCD most prob capable of DDR550 @ 2.5337...which IMO, is better... tongue.gif

thanx 4 ur opinion tho...
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QUOTE(Mowgli @ Nov 21 2005, 10:30 PM)
SOME...not guaranteed... tongue.gif i prefer assurance...coz i dont hav much money to change here n there...TCCD most prob capable of DDR550 @ 2.5337...which IMO, is better... tongue.gif

thanx 4 ur opinion tho...
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single sided d43 most likely can. not all tccd can assure u DDR550 @ 2.5-3-3-7 i would say. 2.5-4-3-X, yes. smile.gif

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post Dec 1 2005, 12:03 AM

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can someone help me on ram timings for optimal OC for my tccd??

my specs:
AMD64 3000+ Venice
Abit AN8-SLi
Corsair XMS4404v1.1 TCCD 512x2

my venice has reached 2.8ghz prime stable 24hours before....now on new board....so i wanna know wat kinda timings i need to achieve at least 300htt??
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post Dec 1 2005, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Dec 1 2005, 12:03 AM)
can someone help me on ram timings for optimal OC for my tccd??

my specs:
AMD64 3000+ Venice
Abit AN8-SLi
Corsair XMS4404v1.1 TCCD 512x2

my venice has reached 2.8ghz prime stable 24hours before....now on new board....so i wanna know wat kinda timings i need to achieve at least 300htt??
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I would say try 2.5-4-4-8 and tune from there. I have a pair of OCZ Rev2 TCCD that can do 2.5-3-3-6. It also depends on your mem controller too.
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Dec 1 2005, 12:09 AM)
I would say try 2.5-4-4-8 and tune from there. I have a pair of OCZ Rev2 TCCD that can do 2.5-3-3-6. It also depends on your mem controller too.
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thanks for ur help bro...but i think i need to solve some problems with my pc first before trying that out...thanks.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Dec 1 2005, 12:03 AM)
can someone help me on ram timings for optimal OC for my tccd??

my specs:
AMD64 3000+ Venice
Abit AN8-SLi
Corsair XMS4404v1.1 TCCD 512x2

my venice has reached 2.8ghz prime stable 24hours before....now on new board....so i wanna know wat kinda timings i need to achieve at least 300htt??
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see, i tell u ady.. now running at 280HTT arr?? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Dec 1 2005, 10:38 AM)
see, i tell u ady.. now running at 280HTT arr??  thumbup.gif
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no la...still cant hit above 250htt la....

2.8ghz was my previous time...when i use to have the same rams n use neo2 platinum la...now cannot la..
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vickyrao:
Update to BIOS 18 or 19.
Use the closest DIMM slots near your proc (black coloured slots).
Drop CPU multi to 8 or 7. Because your proc may not OC as high as it did before. Anyways, lets get the ram to clock higher. Later you can tweak the proc.
Set LTD to 3.
VDIMM: 2.7-2.8 | nF4: 1.7 | HT: 1.35
Try the following DRAM timings:
2.5-11-14-4-4-8-4-3-2-4-1T-4 beats-Enabled
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post Dec 1 2005, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Dec 1 2005, 01:14 PM)
vickyrao:
Update to BIOS 18 or 19.
Use the closest DIMM slots near your proc (black coloured slots).
Drop CPU multi to  8 or 7. Because your proc may not OC as high as it did before. Anyways, lets get the ram to clock higher. Later you can tweak the proc.
Set LTD to 3.
VDIMM: 2.7-2.8 | nF4: 1.7 | HT: 1.35
Try the following DRAM timings:
2.5-11-14-4-4-8-4-3-2-4-1T-4 beats-Enabled
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ill try it tomolo as soon as i get home...cos now me at work....working at nite...didnt see ur reply this afternoon...hehehe....ill try n then ill post the results here.....btw the settins u gave me is for an8-sli rite??mine not fatality ok...

mine now running on BIOS 19...i am using the slots closest to my proc....which is dimm 1 & 2.

y u say i might not be able to clock as high as before??why is dat bro??? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vickyrao @ Dec 1 2005, 11:48 PM)
ill try it tomolo as soon as i get home...cos now me at work....working at nite...didnt see ur reply this afternoon...hehehe....ill try n then ill post the results here.....btw the settins u gave me is for an8-sli rite??mine not fatality ok...

mine now running on BIOS 19...i am using the slots closest to my proc....which is dimm 1 & 2.

y u say i might not be able to clock as high as before??why is dat bro??? sweat.gif
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Bro, both Fatal1ty AN8 SLI and vanila AN8 SLI are the SAME. In fact, both use the same BIOS and I even got my AN8 SLI with Fatal1ty driver disk! tongue.gif (You can buy the Guru Panel for your AN8 SLI too)...

You might not be able to clock higher as before coz its different mobo. Each mobo has different overclocking capabilities. I managed to do 2.7GHz (Venice) on my nF3 Ultra-D before but its only stable up to 2.6GHz on the AN8 SLI. I can boot at 2.7GHz on AN8 SLI but its not prime stable. Also, Abit told me that AN8 SLI is not very "ngam" with Venice.

You can check out my review of AN8 SLI HERE

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QUOTE(pcmoddingmy @ Dec 3 2005, 02:43 PM)
Bro, both Fatal1ty AN8 SLI and vanila AN8 SLI are the SAME. In fact, both use the same BIOS and I even got my AN8 SLI with Fatal1ty driver disk! tongue.gif (You can buy the Guru Panel for your AN8 SLI too)...

You might not be able to clock higher as before coz its different mobo. Each mobo has different overclocking capabilities. I managed to do 2.7GHz (Venice) on my nF3 Ultra-D before but its only stable up to 2.6GHz on the AN8 SLI. I can boot at 2.7GHz on AN8 SLI but its not prime stable. Also, Abit told me that AN8 SLI is not very "ngam" with Venice.

You can check out my review of AN8 SLI HERE
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icic...thanks alot bro...btw where to buy the guru panel???how much does it cost??
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my tccd...stable in ddr600 2.5-4-4-7 2-2-1-2 1T 2.8vol
tref :any

DRAM Drive Strength : 5 or any
DRAM Data Strength : 1 or any
Max Async Latency : 08.0
DRAM Response Time : fast
Read Preamble Time : 05.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit : 16 Cycles
Dynamic Counter : enable
R/W Queue Bypass : 16x
Bypass Max : 07x



ddr600 2.5-4-3-7 2/3-2/3-2-2/3 1T 2.9vol

tref:i try almost all adi in diffrent drive n data strenght
DRAM Drive Strength : 5
DRAM Data Strength : 1
Max Async Latency : 08.0
DRAM Response Time : normal
Read Preamble Time : 05.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit : 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter : disable
R/W Queue Bypass : 08x
Bypass Max : 04x

but got few error in fifth test ~40% ..got >35 error in memtest...after fifth test..then no more adi...
+today..two day n nite i keeping testing adi...endup error..headache... unsure.gif sad.gif

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QUOTE(kbs@o!!! @ Dec 7 2005, 03:09 AM)
my tccd...stable in ddr600 2.5-4-4-7 2-2-1-2 1T 2.8vol
tref :any

DRAM Drive Strength : 5 or any
DRAM Data Strength : 1 or any
Max Async Latency : 08.0
DRAM Response Time : fast
Read Preamble Time : 05.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit : 16 Cycles
Dynamic Counter : enable
R/W Queue Bypass : 16x
Bypass Max : 07x
ddr600 2.5-4-3-7  2/3-2/3-2-2/3 1T 2.9vol

tref:i try almost all adi in diffrent drive n data strenght
DRAM Drive Strength : 5
DRAM Data Strength : 1
Max Async Latency : 08.0
DRAM Response Time : normal
Read Preamble Time : 05.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit : 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter : disable
R/W Queue Bypass : 08x
Bypass Max : 04x

but got few error in fifth test ~40% ..got >35 error in memtest...after fifth test..then no more adi...
+today..two day n nite i keeping testing adi...endup error..headache...  unsure.gif  sad.gif
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m.a = 8
r.p = 5.5 or 6
idle cycle limit = 0

i miss me tccd ledi... blush.gif



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post Dec 10 2005, 01:10 PM

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need to ask all sifu2 here... i oc'ed my gskill fx reach to 290, window memtest pass 200%coverage, super pi 1m & 8M pass... but fail 32m.. is it ok to use?

vdimm 2.65 - timing 2.5-4-3-5
vcore 1.55
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Venice 3000+ @ 2.61GHz
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QUOTE(mnemonic_80 @ Dec 10 2005, 01:10 PM)
need to ask all sifu2 here... i oc'ed my gskill fx reach to 290, window memtest pass 200%coverage, super pi 1m & 8M pass... but fail 32m.. is it ok to use?

vdimm 2.65 - timing 2.5-4-3-5
vcore 1.55
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Venice 3000+ @ 2.61GHz
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increase vdimm mite help help... smile.gif

nope, if failed in 32M most like isn't really stable. wink.gif

do post ya DRAM settings too... biggrin.gif
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my DRAM settings.. how much vdimm i need to increase? 2.7? cz the standard gskill fx vdimm 2.7 - 2.8... thanx notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(mnemonic_80 @ Dec 10 2005, 01:25 PM)
my DRAM settings.. how much vdimm i need to increase? 2.7? cz the standard gskill fx vdimm 2.7 - 2.8... thanx  notworthy.gif
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Trp = 4

try to loosen Trc, Trfc and Tras aswell. Generally ya timing is too tight I can say... smile.gif

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