30L for 450KM is actually average.... works out to 15KM/L. i'm in penang... and i get 16km/L (100% city jam). so it's around the same for city driving (my eco button on 90%, single passenger).

perhaps yr FC will increase after 2nd servicing/oil change.

just installed my Hella supertone horns... ahhhhhhhhh sound now is perfect. when horn now, those stand in front of my car will get heart attack

later will post installation pics.

speaking from experience having a white Insight - it's definitely the toughest color to take care of properly. i wash my car every wkend... and still i find it gets dirty easily, esp under our weather.

will the color fade - eventually, yes. but that's true of any color regardless... how fast it fades/turn to cream color all depends how often u wash, where u park (under direct sunlight each day) etc.

go with what your heart tells you. i love my white - no regrets even tho its hard to take care of this color

quick reminder for our new forum members that another good source of Insight-related news is Insight Central (US based);

http://www.insightcentral.net/forums/2nd-g...-insight-forum/

was upgrading my horns to Hella Supertone set, when i accidentally dropped one screw into the front bonnet. damn jia lat - now cannot find it and remove, since our undercarriage completely sealed.

anyone have any ideas?

thanks bro. will give it a shot tmrw when i bring it to my mechanic/accessory shop. getting my HIDs fixed

bro, you can check out Neuton. They have HIDs.... from Korea. RM800

Mine is much cheaper... it was from another shop... on mainland... it's taken from a Beemer OEM (tell u guys d story another time + pics )

My Hellas are one word: AWESOME So worth the USD 50 paid for it.

After installed DIY myself, realized it was still "not loud enough". So brought it to my mechanic... who reassembled it. Fixed it onto a longer metal bar (spacing both horns out equal distance from each other), added another relay w/direct connect to the batt terminal.

Now, it's DAMN F-ING LOUD. Ear actually pain if stand in front and I horn. Oh Yeah Baby

Have some photos of the install work. Upload later.

Sharing some stories of before-and-after scenarios...

Before (shitty Insight OEM horn): Horn Kelisa trying to cut in front. Kelisa ignores and cut in anyway. I curse. Kelisa 1 - Insight 0
After (118dB Hella SuperTone): Horn Kelisa trying to cut in front. Kelisa suddenly brake & keep to her lane quietly. Insight 1 - Kelisa 0.

Before (shitty Insight OEM horn): Horn ******* Audi trying to cut left cut right. Audi laughs. Cut in anyway. I curse. Audi 1 - Insight 0
After (118dB Hella SuperTone): See ******* Audi from far trying to do NFS stunt. Start horning... cont'd horn for 3-5 secs to show 'garangness'. Audi brake. Decide not to cut. Lets me go first. Then he cuts someone else. Insight 1 - Kelisa 0.





This post has been edited by infinitium: Jun 11 2011, 10:01 PM

nice job bro! how much was your HID set?

ehhhh sorry... bro KevinHata is right - typo typo

Last part is "Audi 0, Insight 1" lah.

Slim type = meaning for your H11 main lamp/bulbs? Don't know what 'slim type' means... but RM150 for a HID set is a really good deal (esp w/15 mths warranty!)

Sharing some photos of my Hella SuperTone installation work:

Mounting the twin-tone horns (one low tone, one high tone) on a mounting rail (the rail came from my mechanic who happened to have a spare). I wanted to space the horns apart, by at least 2-3 feet between them, so the sound is clear:



After measuring off, mount the horns on the rail and secure tightly:



Forgot to snap a photo post-install, but here's my horns when I did it myself (without a proper mounting rail that you see above). After I tested out this install, found out it's not as loud as it should be, so drove to my mechanic and ask him re-do (mount on bracket + rewire using thicker wire + add 1 more relay):



VERY satisfied w/my horns now. Sound comes out clearly... just behind the center grille (can see the horns if you squat down in front of H emblem).

Am going to enjoy these horns for a long looooong time

Here's the actual horns I bought from Amazon, in case anyone's interested (can't find these sold in Penang, maybe you guys in KL will have better luck)... USD 52/set as of today: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0002MA03..._rev_prod_title



This post has been edited by infinitium: Jun 12 2011, 02:03 AM

I see. Interesting. Snap photo of your HIDs when it's on?

Funny that the price differences across HID kits can be so huge - you got yours for RM150, while an accessories shop in Penang is quoting RM800 for a HID kit (they claim it's from Korea, 12 mth guarantee, UV coated).

The price diff is so huge - I wonder why...

That's what I thought too at first (my installation, horns side-by-side)... but the problem w/that was that 1) both horns are touching each other, which I don't like, and more importantly 2) the 2nd horn is right behind the H emblem... sound a bit blocked from coming out.

I did a before/after test (just by moving positions of the horns)... found out you get slightly better (sharper/clearer/louder) sound if you space them apart. Also helps that the new position I found has the horn right behind the grille, so the sound is not blocked too much.

(Yes, I can be quite anal/demanding about my horns. Only the best to squeeze the most out of them

IMHO, I would not spend $$ on bodykits... as I'm more of a practical guy, and prefer spending $$ on stuff that is more practical/benefits you, the driver. Plus my office got damn lot of speedbumps, so my bodykit sure koyak one.

Anyway, to each his own - no denying your ride looks good w/the kit. As long as you're happy, go for it

no need. just remove the plastic covering above the radiator.

i also had the same suspicious fine, white powdery substance. kind of like superfine "bedak"... with no smell.

wondered what it was. and yes, wiped it off, and it came back. weird.

i don't have that issue.... could it be localized to just you? in any case, best to check @ SC.

the super loud horn is #1 on my list, after tinting

would recommend the Hella SuperTone range. but it's hard to find around here... retails for USD 50 on Amazon (if you have US friends coming here, can ask them buy and bring back for you). see some of my previous posts on this forum, for photos of the horn (check out some YouTube vids of the horn sound too).