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 Daikin aircon, Good or not ?

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roxx
post May 15 2015, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 15 2015, 08:09 AM)
R22 Daikin from Thailand, but also stock clearance, if it model in s'pore already up to 10 yrs ago, cause before R22 change to R410a gas model.

But just tell you this model won't be as cold as any R410a model even non inverter.

Whatever if you like it then go ahead, cause R22 should be end story already...

Since in the markets has launched R32 as leonhart88 bro favorite Aircon at the moment brows.gif
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Err.. Whats the different between R410a and R32? rclxub.gif
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post May 15 2015, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(roxx @ May 15 2015, 09:55 AM)
Err.. Whats the different between R410a and R32?  rclxub.gif
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Newer gas loh.. They claim it more energy efficient for R32 also faster cooling speed
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post May 15 2015, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 15 2015, 09:58 AM)
Newer gas loh.. They claim it more energy efficient for R32 also faster cooling speed
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Ok Thanks bro for your info.. But does Malaysian market has R32? What brand? Daikin?


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post May 25 2015, 10:01 AM

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Another promotion by daikin


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post May 25 2015, 02:59 PM

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Yeap,i got d free gift also,bought my unit last friday & install on saturday...
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post May 25 2015, 05:01 PM

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You're deep-pocketed.. That's R32 unit.. Expensive man!! thumbup.gif
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post May 25 2015, 10:39 PM

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Mine not r32,is r410a...
Same free give also...
Most of d electrical nv mention bout dis,i gues they will jz take themself...
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post May 27 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ May 15 2015, 08:09 AM)
R22 Daikin from Thailand, but also stock clearance, if it model in s'pore already up to 10 yrs ago, cause before R22 change to R410a gas model.

But just tell you this model won't be as cold as any R410a model even non inverter.

Whatever if you like it then go ahead, cause R22 should be end story already...

Since in the markets has launched R32 as leonhart88 bro favorite Aircon at the moment brows.gif
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myfav is R22 bro. still can be used till 2030. Given that time our aircon already 15 yrs old. just trade in when buy new in 2030 la biggrin.gif
now R22 still the cheapest in addition to clearance
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post May 27 2015, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 27 2015, 10:22 AM)
myfav is R22 bro. still can be used till 2030. Given that time our aircon already 15 yrs old. just trade in when buy new in 2030 la biggrin.gif
now R22 still the cheapest in addition to clearance
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as bro kimsim said , only selfish ppl will opt for R22 aircon... non-environment friendly and noisier ...trade in 15yrs old aircon ? nah , worthless at all whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post May 27 2015, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(iastate @ May 14 2015, 01:20 PM)
If my concealed piping is actually the thicker one, which is the type for R410 gas, can I use R410 gas then? This is because my air con model is using R22, but I had my contractor do the R410 concealed piping, in case I change my air con in the future. I knew R22 was being discontinued soon.
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if your aircond is not meant to work with R410a gas, so you have to change the aircond in the future if you want to fill the new gas. Just that you can maintain the piping.
My advice would be to just continue using the R22 aircond if it is not giving you problems. If your piping and aircond are properly installed there should be very little chance of leakage so you don't need to refill the gas often anyway. If you find that you need to top up the gas regularly then you need to find the source of the leak then only worry about the choice of gas.
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post May 27 2015, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 27 2015, 11:04 AM)
as bro kimsim said , only selfish ppl will opt for R22 aircon... non-environment friendly and noisier ...trade in 15yrs old aircon ? nah , worthless at all whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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nope. now ozone layer thicker bro. noisier? my 20 yrs old toshiba even very quiet bro.
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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 27 2015, 11:04 AM)
as bro kimsim said , only selfish ppl will opt for R22 aircon... non-environment friendly and noisier ...trade in 15yrs old aircon ? nah , worthless at all whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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nope. now ozone layer thicker bro. noisier? my 20 yrs old toshiba even very quiet bro. as long as it is still legal. aim to be rich also selfish too. all human beings are selfish. so what?

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post May 28 2015, 07:47 AM

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QUOTE(leonhart88 @ May 27 2015, 11:11 AM)
nope. now ozone layer thicker bro. noisier? my 20 yrs old toshiba even very quiet bro. as long as it is still legal. aim to be rich also selfish too. all human beings are selfish. so what?
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When do u plan to have one R32 model?
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post May 29 2015, 02:54 PM

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R410a vs r22 gas now jz diffferent rm50,and installation fees different about rm30...
But i duno y the installation fees different rm30 since d pipe for d 1st 10 feet is free...
Maybe more job nid to be done?
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post May 29 2015, 03:00 PM

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r410 higher pressure so need thicker pipe. thus the higher price.
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post May 29 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(^Ware^wolf @ May 27 2015, 11:04 AM)
as bro kimsim said , only selfish ppl will opt for R22 aircon... non-environment friendly and noisier ...trade in 15yrs old aircon ? nah , worthless at all whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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if you understand the issue then you know that is not completely true.
R-410a is only *slightly* more environment friendly than R22.

R22 = contributes to ozone depletion and is a green house gas (i.e. traps heat)
R410a = doesn't contribute to ozone depletion, but is equally bad (if not worse) as a green house gas.

so, if I'm shopping for a brand new air con and starting from scratch, best case is to get all new. i.e. R410a air cond + R410a piping for future proofing
but if I'm considering retrofitting an installation, assuming old piping but in good condition and installation is done professionally, R22 is still a viable alternative if cash flow / cost is a factor.

The last time I was shopping for air conds (a couple of years ago) I ended up with Daikin's R22 inverters as a reasonable compromise between savings and environmental friendliness..

This post has been edited by oe_kintaro: May 29 2015, 03:33 PM
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post May 29 2015, 07:53 PM

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I mean d piping is included when u buy d air-cond?
Or included in d sub-con installing package?
If it is in d subcon package,den it explain everything...
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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ May 29 2015, 07:53 PM)
I mean d piping is included when u buy d air-cond?
Or included in d sub-con installing package?
If it is in d subcon package,den it explain everything...
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no piping included in the package from manufacturer, only drain pipe is inside the AC unit


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post May 29 2015, 10:10 PM

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ic...
ok,thx...
now i understand...
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post Jun 4 2015, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ May 27 2015, 11:07 AM)
if your aircond is not meant to work with R410a gas, so you have to change the aircond in the future if you want to fill the new gas. Just that you can maintain the piping.
My advice would be to just continue using the R22 aircond if it is not giving you problems. If your piping and aircond are properly installed there should be very little chance of leakage so you don't need to refill the gas often anyway. If you find that you need to top up the gas regularly then you need to find the source of the leak then only worry about the choice of gas.
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Hi, I'm currently renovating my house. I am thinking to ask the contractor to install R410a pipe for all my aircond areas.

Just to clarify:

1. Can I still use a R22 aircond on a R410a pipe?

2. I understand now some non-inverter models are using R410a gas. What is the average price difference of non-inverter R22 model versus non-inverter R410a model?

Thanks!

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