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 Daikin aircon, Good or not ?

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DiVaio
post Jun 19 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Red Maniac @ Jun 18 2012, 01:53 PM)
I just bought the Daikin Inverter R22 2.0Hp recently. 

After installation, the indoor unit produced some vibration noise once the air cond is set to powerful mode or when set to swing.  I call the shop and they will in turn complain to Daikin of this problem.  I'm still waiting for Daikin's technician to contact me to arrange for home visit.  icon_question.gif

I wonder is it me being unlucky or is this a common problem?  cry.gif
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How much you bought this unit?

mhhee
post Jun 20 2012, 08:26 AM

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My father's house is installed with Daikin basic air cond. Working well but sometimes it spits water out from the air outlet. Funny. Like ppl spitting on u...
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post Jun 20 2012, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(DiVaio @ Jun 19 2012, 11:00 PM)
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How much you bought this unit?
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RM2600 incl standard installation.
stretch
post Jun 20 2012, 03:56 PM

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So seriously. tell me. if i don't care about the budget. go for daikin or york? help me somebody. i'm confused.
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post Jun 20 2012, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(stretch @ Jun 20 2012, 03:56 PM)
So seriously. tell me. if i don't care about the budget. go for daikin or york? help me somebody. i'm confused.
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york and daikin same one lar, the use same compressor, manufactured by OYL

take note that daikin stupid remote control which doesn't have real time clock timer function doh.gif

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post Jun 20 2012, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(skng03 @ Jun 20 2012, 04:44 PM)
york and daikin same one lar, the use same compressor, manufactured by OYL

take note that daikin stupid remote control which doesn't have real time clock timer function doh.gif
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thought i read somewhere in this thread that says york and daikin are same company but still manufactured differently... so go for york?
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post Jun 20 2012, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(stretch @ Jun 20 2012, 04:57 PM)
thought i read somewhere in this thread that says york and daikin are same company but still manufactured differently... so go for york?
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Manufacture by same company, may not share same design like difference blower.

Action and York are nearly identical in some model.
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post Jun 20 2012, 05:06 PM

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oo.. so basically its the same? thanks.
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post Jun 20 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 20 2012, 05:00 PM)
Manufacture by same company, may not share same design like difference blower.

Action and York are nearly identical in some model.
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heard daikin bought york a/c biz .....
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post Jun 24 2012, 10:46 PM

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Daikin bought over OYL Group. OYL Group consist of OYL Manufacturing and OYL Condair. OYLM manufactures brands for J&E Hall, McQuire, etc. OYLC manufactures York. However, these are all commercial airconditioners like chillers and air handlers. Room air conds are not included. Worldwide York brand is now under Johnson Controls. Daikin is a different entity. Daikin's move to purchase OYL is to strengthen their commercial AC which they do not have in the past. Acson and York however are under the same entity in Malaysia.

If you have money, go for those big brands instead of Haier or Media or some local brand (kilang cap pokok or cap burung). All brand new AC shall not have problems. They shouldbe durable but once they age, different problems might surface. Best brand? I don't think any one can tell you which is the best brand.

Everyone is telling you different stories. I choose based on a few criteria. Energy saving level, unit size, piping size, exterior design, features, price, convinient after sales service. Get a good installer and you are 50% safe. Oh, get a good service man too.
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post Jun 25 2012, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 24 2012, 10:46 PM)
Daikin bought over OYL Group. OYL Group consist of OYL Manufacturing and OYL Condair. OYLM manufactures brands for J&E Hall, McQuire, etc. OYLC manufactures York. However, these are all commercial airconditioners like chillers and air handlers. Room air conds are not included. Worldwide York brand is now under Johnson Controls. Daikin is a different entity. Daikin's move to purchase OYL is to strengthen their commercial AC which they do not have in the past. Acson and York however are under the same entity in Malaysia.

If you have money, go for those big brands instead of Haier or Media or some local brand (kilang cap pokok or cap burung). All brand new AC shall not have problems. They shouldbe durable but once they age, different problems might surface. Best brand? I don't think any one can tell you which is the best brand.

Everyone is telling you different stories. I choose based on a few criteria. Energy saving level, unit size, piping size, exterior design, features, price, convinient after sales service. Get a good installer and you are 50% safe. Oh, get a good service man too.
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Why don't you get the Panasoinc Delux model. Their EER is a lot higher than the York M you got. Comparing 24000btu model, it's 9.9 vs 8.97

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post Jun 25 2012, 08:06 AM

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No one mention of carrier. It used to be the best if the best.
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post Jun 25 2012, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 06:28 AM)
Why don't you get the Panasoinc Delux model. Their EER is a lot higher than the York M you got. Comparing 24000btu model, it's 9.9 vs 8.97
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I got M series with 19500 btu/h (YWM20M indoor, YSL20C3). EER at 10.38. Pana C series is at 10.2, with 18000 btu/h. Therefore, this is not apple to apple comparison. Also, even if I am comparing the 2 that i stated above, M series is still running on less power input and lower amp. I guess you just need to go compare the model you want. Generalisation will not give you the best selection. Like you said, M series loose out to Pana C series when it comes to 24000 btu/h.
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 25 2012, 08:41 AM)
I got M series with 19500 btu/h (YWM20M indoor, YSL20C3). EER at 10.38. Pana C series is at 10.2, with 18000 btu/h. Therefore, this is not apple to apple comparison. Also, even if I am comparing the 2 that i stated above, M series is still running on less power input and lower amp. I guess you just need to go compare the model you want. Generalisation will not give you the best selection. Like you said, M series loose out to Pana C series when it comes to 24000 btu/h.
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I don't understand. When I check out the 24000btu model, Panasonic seems cheaper to run. Can you pls comment?

CS-C24NKH (CU-C24NKH) ~ 2.5HP
24000btu
EER 9.9
2430watts

YWM25
24000btu
EET 8.97
2675watts
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:38 AM)
I don't understand. When I check out the 24000btu model, Panasonic seems cheaper to run. Can you pls comment?

CS-C24NKH (CU-C24NKH) ~ 2.5HP
24000btu
EER 9.9
2430watts

YWM25
24000btu
EET 8.97
2675watts
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Your fact is correct. York M series loose out to Pana C series in the 24000 btu/h category. As what I have post, what I got is the 18000 btu/h model. If you compare the 2, M series has better EER and lower power input for 18000 btu/h model. That is why I chose York M series over C series of Pana. Also, price wise, I am getting 1600 without installation for York M series. Pana PC series is selling at 1760, C is selling at 2000. I dont need the ECONAVI. And I don't really like how nanoe-G works. I like previous e-ion better. Hence I went to York for what i need. York has larger outdoor unit and the piping for York is larger. But this is for my living room and it is back to back. Calculating the piping cost difference, M series still gives me a cheaper capital, with a better expenses on paper, based on catalogue la...
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post Jun 25 2012, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 25 2012, 09:50 AM)
Your fact is correct. York M series loose out to Pana C series in the 24000 btu/h category. As what I have post, what I got is the 18000 btu/h model. If you compare the 2, M series has better EER and lower power input for 18000 btu/h model. That is why I chose York M series over C series of Pana. Also, price wise, I am getting 1600 without installation for York M series. Pana PC series is selling at 1760, C is selling at 2000. I dont need the ECONAVI. And I don't really like how nanoe-G works. I like previous e-ion better. Hence I went to York for what i need. York has larger outdoor unit and the piping for York is larger. But this is for my living room and it is back to back. Calculating the piping cost difference, M series still gives me a cheaper capital, with a better expenses on paper, based on catalogue la...
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You know how to check which have stronger air flow for the 24000btu model from both manufacturer?

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post Jun 25 2012, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 25 2012, 09:54 AM)
You know how to check which have stronger air flow for the 24000btu model from both manufacturer?
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Just check on the CFM or any airflow data in the catalogue. Larger airflow quantity does not imply that you will get longer air throw. Air throw is affected by the internal and external static pressure of the units. I cannot tell how far Pana is throwing, but according to York, they can throw 6m? Catalogue writing, I am not sure if it is really 6m.
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Jun 25 2012, 10:02 AM)
Just check on the CFM or any airflow data in the catalogue. Larger airflow quantity does not imply that you will get longer air throw. Air throw is affected by the internal and external static pressure of the units. I cannot tell how far Pana is throwing, but according to York, they can throw 6m? Catalogue writing, I am not sure if it is really 6m.
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Could.

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post Jun 26 2012, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(stretch @ Jun 20 2012, 03:56 PM)
So seriously. tell me. if i don't care about the budget. go for daikin or york? help me somebody. i'm confused.
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Am using York for 7 years before changing to Daikin about 1.5 years ago, my Daikin air cond don't blow cold air anymore after just 1.5 years. Just service/washed the air cond and now it is operating as normal. The service guy said this air cond is the worst in collecting dust, need to be clean every 6 months. OMG! My old York air cond only serviced once after 5 years.
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QUOTE(madcow1 @ Jun 26 2012, 01:12 PM)
Am using York for 7 years before changing to Daikin about 1.5 years ago, my Daikin air cond don't blow cold air anymore after just 1.5 years. Just service/washed the air cond and now it is operating as normal. The service guy said this air cond is the worst in collecting dust, need to be clean every 6 months. OMG! My old York air cond only serviced once after 5 years.
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Actually, i believe that it depends on your usage and on the dust volume as well.

As you know Malaysia is very dusty, regardless. Like my bro's apartment, even close all the doors and windows 24hrs, today you sweep and mop nicely. Next day, the dust appears. So sometimes it's not the fault of the air-conditioner but the fault of our environment also.

Maybe you should wash the indoor unit filter (the one that can be taken out when opening the front cover) every week.

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