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 Nokia N8 - V30 - [The King of Camera Phones], Any New Amazing N8 Discovery You Found??

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post Jun 21 2011, 01:35 PM

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omai..love at 1st sight with n9!
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post Jun 21 2011, 01:39 PM

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I presume photos taken with N8 has geo-tagging?

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QUOTE(mrhaz @ Jun 21 2011, 01:35 PM)
omai..love at 1st sight with n9!
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Pause @ 2.35 & you'll sleek UI

QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 21 2011, 01:39 PM)
I presume photos taken with N8 has geo-tagging?
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Should be.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Jun 21 2011, 01:39 PM)
I presume photos taken with N8 has geo-tagging?
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U can choose to turn it on or off.
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post Jun 21 2011, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 01:43 PM)

Pause @ 2.35 & you'll sleek UI
Should be.
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That's really slick. Must be a pain to implement.

Really love this new swiping UI. Please please please Nokia keep using MeeGo.
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post Jun 21 2011, 02:55 PM

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I have mixed feeling about Nokia N9 TBH. Its strays too much from its predecessors, the Internet Tablet series and the uber N900.

But one thing for sure, I know that this will be my birthday present laugh.gif
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post Jun 21 2011, 02:56 PM

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Is there a dedicated N9 thread?
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post Jun 21 2011, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 21 2011, 12:24 PM)
I don't think a hardware keyboard is really necessary. Although N900 and BlackBerry users may not like it, many people buy iPhones/Androids without keyboards. Also unlike the N900 which had a resistive, hard-to-swipe screen, the N9 has a smooth capacitive screen, great for quick input and gaming.
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Depends what type of user. N900 and blackberry is totally different type of user with iPhone.
N900 is hard to swipe? Have you used the N900?
Capacitive is good but not perfect, it lacks of accuracy and you can't use finger nails or other objects, even the stylus have to get the specially made stylus.

In the end, as I said, it depends on the type of users. N900 users are different from iPhone, N8, etc users; What they want and looking for is totally different. That's why I said, coming from an N900 user, most likely they would want something that is good enough to replace their device, but this device is more like a BETTER N8, or probably what N8 should be.

QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 21 2011, 12:28 PM)
The resolution is good liao, better than my SGS.  biggrin.gif
You still have your brick N900 ma? Now I can live without keyboard after using touch-based phone for so long. Looking on the UI, it's for mass consumer, bit geeky than android user though. For a girl, maybe it's not for them.  whistling.gif


Added on June 21, 2011, 12:28 pm

Agree, good browser and good camera = win for me
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I didn't brick my N900, it's not me, haha.
I can't live without keyboard, I hate using iPhone, iPod Touch, N8, C7, etc on screen keyboard. It's just "different".

QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 21 2011, 12:48 PM)
I do type long with my SGS, even made long paragraph with it before. Don't think it's a problem. :\ oh well there is no camera sample for now, but it's not eDoF at least (thank god!)
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It's different lor, back when N900 thread starter, most of my post were done using N900. Plus, nobody knows I was typing on the N900. When I was chatting with my friend though the MSN, we're replying fast and long; They couldn't believe I'm using a handphone while they're on a PC/laptop. Anyway, another difference is, with the physical keyboard, no need for stupid pop up screen for you to type, and when you want to see something, you need to "exit" the stupid screen, read, then touch to access the "input" screen again; If the post is long, it's troublesome to read up, or make corrections in the middle between the words and so on.
It's just "different"; Of course, those that prefer touch screen have their own preference;
Both have pros and cons, each type of user will give and take on it; My point for this is the N9, if it's the supposed replacement for N900, then it has stray away and I believe it has disappoints many N900 owners looking forward for this.



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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 02:59 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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true, i kinda HATE n8's on screenkeyboard because they hide the original post.... need tome to switch the interface doh.gif
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 21 2011, 12:28 PM)
The resolution is good liao, better than my SGS.  biggrin.gif
You still have your brick N900 ma? Now I can live without keyboard after using touch-based phone for so long. Looking on the UI, it's for mass consumer, bit geeky than android user though. For a girl, maybe it's not for them.  whistling.gif


Added on June 21, 2011, 12:28 pm

Agree, good browser and good camera = win for me
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Plus a good mapping solution. Something that is going to be addressed with the awesome Nokia Maps.

Its a pity tho that the widgetized homescreen that Maemo users already accustomed to wasn't available here. Instead, we got an WP7-esque interface, with Notifications panel, Main Menu panel and Multitasking Panel.
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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 21 2011, 02:55 PM)
I have mixed feeling about Nokia N9 TBH. Its strays too much from its predecessors, the Internet Tablet series and the uber N900.

But one thing for sure, I know that this will be my birthday present laugh.gif
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Yup, that's what I meant. strays too much; Unless this wasn't meant for N900 replacement, but a refined N8; hahaha; Probably from marketing point of view, they want to target more users (forgetting their tablet category users),... or too much influence from the fruit company.

Well... let's see what device they will come up with from another OS which currently bears the fruit codename.

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post Jun 21 2011, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 02:59 PM)
Depends what type of user. N900 and blackberry is totally different type of user with iPhone.
N900 is hard to swipe? Have you used the N900?
Capacitive is good but not perfect, it lacks of accuracy and you can't use finger nails or other objects, even the stylus have to get the specially made stylus.
Yes, I checked out the N900 on the day it launched. Hated the screen (was using capacitive Hero that time), so really dislike resistive screens.
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ya lor no one create nokia n9 thread XDDD

now interested how's good the phone XD
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 21 2011, 03:11 PM)
Yes, I checked out the N900 on the day it launched. Hated the screen (was using capacitive Hero that time), so really dislike resistive screens.
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N900 has one of the good resistive touch screen that is responsive. Totally unlike those in past Nokia Symbians.

Capactive and Resistive both has it's pros and cons; It's up to the user to know and accept it's pros and cons. For tablets with small screen (especially), it's more useful to use resistive; Multi-touch is good for gaming? But the main purpose of the N900 wasn't gaming, it's the tablet experience, which I personally think using resistive was a better choice. I can use finger-nails or stylus, I don't have to zoom in when browsing, and the stylus comes in very handy. When using iPod Touch, honestly, I hated the capacitive screen as the screen is already so small (unless you're talking about iPad); but gaming experience surely it's better; Browsing? No, I have to pinch-zoom or keep zoom in and out. It's not a good experience.

For resistive on the N900, it's makes more possibilities, like this cool paint app:


And for using N900, I always posted this video (below) for many users before they make decision through the forum; It's important to know what it's capable of OR what it is; Many people just buy because people say it's good, but what they want maybe different.
N900 is very close to a mobile computer, it's a powerful device; But does everyone looking for such device? No, people want smooth UI, simple and easy to use, good camera, etc. There're many types of users around, N900 simply have it's own category of users, and these users understand the pros and cons, strength and weaknesses.

This video explains very well, and the middle part, it talks about the type of user which is not suitable for. It's just like those people who have used the computer since olden days VS the people that only use the computer during this age; They can't stand a simple lag and complains, but those that have been using, would have more patience as they have experience more, secondly, they know or try to understand what is causing the problem instead of just "blast it out'. Another example would be Internet Speed, those that have been using Internet since long ago, since dial-ups, would've experience what is called really slow and disconnection; Those that have never experience, will complain even it's "a bit" slow as if the world has come down, an example is my cousin, she complain her internet connection is super slow like the world has ended.



Added on June 21, 2011, 3:30 pmhttp://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9_announced_based_on_the_meego_platform-news-2805.php

N9 announced....
One thing I notice... no homescreen....
Another influence from fruit?

One UI is all icons and it's in 1 page, imagine if you install tons of appplications....
No adobe Flash support.


Nonetheless, compared to it's Symbian devices, this is actually good.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Jun 21 2011, 03:34 PM
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really wonder hows nokia gonna allocate their programmers between wp7 and meego.
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post Jun 21 2011, 04:02 PM

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omap 3 is disappointing.btw,i love the nokia play 360.awesome!!!
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QUOTE(botakbin @ Jun 21 2011, 03:45 PM)
really wonder hows nokia gonna allocate their programmers between wp7 and meego.
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Just switch Symbian programmers to Meego/WP7 departments I guess.
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post Jun 21 2011, 04:09 PM

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discuss N9 at here.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1531875/+160&#entry43252770


Added on June 21, 2011, 4:12 pm
QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jun 21 2011, 12:28 PM)
The resolution is good liao, better than my SGS.  biggrin.gif
You still have your brick N900 ma? Now I can live without keyboard after using touch-based phone for so long. Looking on the UI, it's for mass consumer, bit geeky than android user though. For a girl, maybe it's not for them.  whistling.gif


Added on June 21, 2011, 12:28 pm

Agree, good browser and good camera = win for me
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FTW=for the win.yes,good browser and good cam is my main point as well.+good gps.

This post has been edited by nicholasbeh: Jun 21 2011, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(Andrew Lim @ Jun 21 2011, 02:44 PM)
That's really slick. Must be a pain to implement.

Really love this new swiping UI. Please please please Nokia keep using MeeGo.
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That a no go from Stephen Elop.

QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Jun 21 2011, 03:01 PM)
Plus a good mapping solution. Something that is going to be addressed with the awesome Nokia Maps.

Its a pity tho that the widgetized homescreen that Maemo users already accustomed to wasn't available here. Instead, we got an WP7-esque interface, with Notifications panel, Main Menu panel and Multitasking Panel.
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Rather surprised that N9 has full Maps.N900 don't have turn to turn navigation till the community provided patch for it recently.

For hardcore Maemo users this interface does come as disappointment but this is what majority of regular users want.In a way it's good that Nokia listen to what people want.
Well...at least the multitask panel is live panel.Still does have some similarities as Maemo 5.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 21 2011, 03:02 PM)
Yup, that's what I meant. strays too much; Unless this wasn't meant for N900 replacement, but a refined N8; hahaha; Probably from marketing point of view, they want to target more users (forgetting their tablet category users),... or too much influence from the fruit company.

Well... let's see what device they will come up with from another OS which currently bears the fruit codename.
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Number of sale will be important on how Nokia will pursue the UI updates.
TelefonSaya got wall of icons.watching it x9000 will make you bored.At least N9's 3 homescreens are colourfull.

I think enough of N9's discussion here.Come discuss @ N9 thread.
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jun 21 2011, 04:40 PM)
That a no go from Stephen Elop.
Rather surprised that N9 has full Maps.N900 don't have turn to turn navigation till the community provided patch for it recently.

For hardcore Maemo users this interface does come as disappointment but this is what majority of regular users want.In a way it's good that Nokia listen to what people want.
Well...at least the multitask panel is live panel.Still does have some similarities as Maemo 5.
Number of sale will be important on how Nokia will pursue the UI updates.
TelefonSaya got wall of icons.watching it x9000 will make you bored.At least N9's 3 homescreens are colourfull.

I think enough of N9's discussion here.Come discuss @ N9 thread.
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Yes, it's "business" after all.

All I can say is, to replace N900, it's a disappointment.

But, if to replace Symbian devices, it looks pretty darn promising. As I said, this probably should be what N8 should become.


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