i never drink this kind non-halal bir.
malta lagi sedap wey!

as long as it contain alcohol, is still considered alcoholic right?

how low is 0.05% alcohol?

as long as no mabuk = halal  ???

the 0.05% limit is not for human drink wan.

Simply pull number from bottom. My fren, he drink many many bir, also no drunk, so how to calculate?

0.05% already haram.

real man drink 100% alcohol???

i think they just create story to prevent muslim yungsters from later wan to drink real beer..
if really that amount of alcohol is haram, then dont eat hacks or strepsil. sure contain alcohol. anything that has OL in the end of its name like ethanOL or menthOL is alcoholic rite? that was wat i learned from my chemistry class long ago la. correct me if im wrong. im no gud 1 in chem.

i never drink this kind non-halal bir.
malta lagi sedap wey!

http://www.alcoholcontents.com/

Beer
GLASS: 285ml

ALCOHOL CONTENT:
11.4ml - 4%

0.1% is way low already mang.

Where does your drink of choice fall?

Below are the alcohol percentages by volume (ABV) of some common types of drinks.  See the following section for more on how the strength of different alcoholic beverages can be measured:

Fruit Juice  < 0.1%
Pilsner  3–6%
ESB (Bitter)  3-6%
Lager  4-5%
Porter  4-5%
Alcopops/Breezers/Coolers  4–7%
IPA (India Pale Ale)  6-7%
Cider  4–8%
Sparks  6-7%
Stout  5-10%
Sparkling  Wine  8 – 12%
Table Wine  8 – 14%
Retsina  10–11%
Barley Wine  10–15%
Wine (general)  10–15%
Port Wine  20%
Fortified Wine  17 – 22%
Liqueur  15–55%
Light Liquors  20%
Liquor/Spirits (general)  40%
Cask Strength Whisky/Rum  60%
Absinthe  55–89.5%
Neutral Grain Spirit  95%
Rectified Spirit  96%
Absolute Alcohol  99-100%

This so-called "non alcoholic beer" is actually malta with various fruit flavors la bro

i'm pretty sure some fags out there drink babrican and act drunk..

dey tapai tu bape % alcohol

i donno how they did the research.. even if it contains 1% of alcohol, if the drinks is not memabukkan, then we cannot simple consider it as a beer or wain or something.. for example, if i drink 1 bottle of fragrance that contains 0.5% alcohol, is it consider as im drinking 'minuman memabukkan'? nowadays, majlis fatwa just used simple logic to deduce shariah law.. if (drinks.contains('alcohol')) then drinks = haram;

tu yang aku tanya tu.

Mai personal rebiu, based on DRINKING THE ORIGINAL FLAVOR (aka "beer" flavor), not the sissy fruit jus:

BARBICAN - taste not like beer, is just fizzy fruit juice yo.

BAVARIA - my non muslim friend say is moar taste like bir but not the fruit one la. most bitter of the lot.

CASTLEBRAU - also taste similar like bir, also bitter.

ISTAK - sweet like shit. made from promegranate, so no bitter.

HOLLANDER - MAHAL. But is good.

DELSTER - not too bad.

in the nuked tered previously, 1 guy listed some other halal food etc stuff that has more than 1% alcohol.

like soya sos, lea and perrins, listerine, curry sos (yes, curry has some alcohol content...).

I wish mod would revive that tered, but since mods now on rampage, i guess the knowledge is lost.....

ALCOHOL CONTENT IN FOODS
(JAKIM, 2006)

No Name of Samples Alcohol Content (% v/v)
1 Curry Sauce 0.07
2. Sweet ‘n’ Sour Sauce 0.07
3. Barbeque Sauce 0.09
4. Dark Soy Sauce 0.1
5. Lea & Perrins 0.1
6. Rice Vinegar 0.1
7. Sauce (Brand A1) 0.1
8. Asian Sesame Dressing 0.22
9. Burgess Mint Jelly 0.26
10. Melon Flavour 0.3
11. Wine Vinegar 0.3
12. Tabasco Pepper Sauce 0.4
13. Yee Tonic (Ten Shae Theng) 0.5
14. Vinegar 0.5
15. Dyna Tonic 0.6
16. Dyna Tonic (Ten Shae Theng) 0.7
17. Teriyaki W.J.S 1.5
18. Carbonated Drink 2.0
19. Soy sauce (Kikkoman) 3.1
20. Clear Soy Sauce (Ajinomoto) 3.9
21. Kikkoman Teriyaki Marinade & Sauce 4.1
22. *Cough Syrup (medicine) 4.8
23. Gourmet Cooking (Shao Hsing Hua Tiao Chiew) 17.6
24. *Mouth Wash A (Personal Care Product) 18
25. *Mouth Wash B (Personal Care Product) 35


% ALCOHOL PERMITTED IN FOODS

COUNTRY % ALCOHOL
Malaysia (JAKIM) 0.01
Indonesia (MUI) 1.0
Thailand (AOI) 1.0
Singapore (MUIS) 0.5
Brunei (BIRC) 0.0
Europe < 0.5
UK Not allowed
Canada Not allowed

Alcohol content of commercial tapai
Commercial Samples Alcohol content (% v/v)
1 0.8
2 1.0
3 0.8
4 1.6

tapai bro tapai
i think tapai got a lot more alcohol in it that the poor barbican

tapai bro tapai
i think tapai got a lot more alcohol in it that the poor barbican

in the nuked tered previously, 1 guy listed some other halal food etc stuff that has more than 1% alcohol.

like soya sos, lea and perrins, listerine, curry sos (yes, curry has some alcohol content...).

I wish mod would revive that tered, but since mods now on rampage, i guess the knowledge is lost.....

Here you go:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/sear...=www.google.com

Alcohol content of commercial tapai
Commercial Samples Alcohol content (% v/v)
1                            0.8
2                            1.0
3                            0.8
4                            1.6

so lets say if u consume a 10% of alcohol drink and apparently u never got intoxicated...meaning its halal ??

Sabda Rasulullah SAW :-

"Apa yang memabukkan dalam jumlah yang banyak, adalah diharamkan walau dalam jumlah yang sedikit." Sahih Muslim

but then there's a so called unavoidable alcoholic content such as in fruit, vinegar, tapai and many other fermented and sugary foods.

I'm not sure why JAKIM ban Barbican as it is considered halal by Islamic authorities everywhere else in the world.

so lets say if u consume a 10% of alcohol drink and apparently u never got intoxicated...meaning its halal ??

as a muslim, like it or not we must obey fatwa from mufti.. even if it a flaw 1.. heck, sumpah2 zina issue before, mufti also said cannot do that.. berdosa.. but people (the renowned 1) still do it.. i drank barbican b4, can say everytime i went to arab restaurant, must order vimto or barbican.. now can just order tea o ais.. bye2 barbican..

alcohol is a group of chemicals founded by the Muslims themselves. We also have other chemical groups like carbohydrates, proteins, etc in our food. Making chemical groups Halal-Haram seems not an intelligent approach. Should there would be fatwas on Steroids, Cholesterol and Proteins too?

Alcohol never mentioned in the Quran but what is mentioned was Himar or Intoxicants which is haram. Hope this one clears it up.

A&W rootbeer FTW 

it's halal for you and you alone.

if other people match what you were doing and they become intoxicated, then it's haram for them.

just my opinion....

alcohol is a group of chemicals founded by the Muslims themselves. We also have other chemical groups like carbohydrates, proteins, etc in our food. Making chemical groups Halal-Haram seems not an intelligent approach. Should there would be fatwas on Steroids, Cholesterol and Proteins too?

Alcohol never mentioned in the Quran but what is mentioned was Himar or Intoxicants which is haram. Hope this one clears it up.

Go read my earlier post Fadly,there's an explanation there.

Basically jakim labels anything haram if it has alcohol content, not bcause it's memabukkan.

That hadith is full of deep intrinsic meaning, and i don't know how they interpret it as "alcohol = haram"

Tarikh Keputusan:
29 Jun, 2010
Huraian Tajuk/Isu:
Fatwa Berkaitan Etil Alkohol Dalam Makanan
Keputusan:
Dimaklumkan bahawa telah dibincang dan dibahaskan oleh Jawatankuasa Fatwa Negeri Johor pada 16 Rejab 1431 bersamaan 29 Jun 2010. Setelah dilihat dengan penuh penelitian, maka keputusannya adalah seperti berikut.

Alahamdullilah fatwanya :


    Setiap minuman arak mengandungi Alkohol Etanol yang memabukkan tetapi bukan semua alkohol itu dari arak. Alkohol dari proses pembuatan arak hukumnya haram dan najis.

    Minuman ringan yang dibuat sama caranya dengan membuat arak samada mengandungi sedikit alkohol atau alkohol yang disulingkan adalah haram diminum.

    Minuman ringan yang dibuat bukan untuk dijadikan arak atau bukan yang memabukkan dan tidak sama caranya dengan proses arak adalah halal.

    Alkohol yang terjadi sampingan dalam proses pembuatan makanan dan minuman tidak najis dan boleh dimakan.

Kandungan Etil Alkohol yang terdapat di dalam makanan dan minuman yang dibenarkan adalah tidal lebih daripada 0.01%.

Oleh itu, produk yang boleh diberikan pensijilan halal adalah :

    Kod sampel : 229 (L-090310-UCK(b)
    Kod sampel : 231 (L-090310-RT(a)
    Kod sampel : 232 (L-090310-RT(b)
    Kod sampel : 233 (L-090310-RT©

Manakala baki produk yang lain tidak menepati syarat dan tidak boleh diberi pensijilan halal.

Oleh kerana masalah ini berkaitan dengan isu nasional, maka produk yang mengandungi lebih daripada 0.01% Etil Alkohol akan dibawa ke Muzakarah Jawatankuas Fatwa Kebangsaan untuk dibincangkan sebagaimana yang telah diperuntukan dalam Enakmen Pentadbiran Agama Islam Johor seksyen 51 (1) :

" Walau apapun kuasa Jawatankuasa Fatwa di bawah seksyen 47, apabila Jawatankuasa Fatwa mendapati bahawa suatu fatwa yang dicadangkan dibuat adalah berkaitan dengan perkara-perkara yang menyentuh kepentingan kebangsaan. Jawatankuasa Fatwa hendaklah menangguhkan perbincangan tentang fatwwa yang dicadangkan itu dan mengemukakan perkara itu kepada Majlis ".

mayb im wrong ,so this halal thingy is differ from each individual ?? eg. both consume the same drink , one of them became intoxicated while the other 1 has a high alcohol tolerance...so 1 of them haram liao ??? 

you could say that.

but you are not muslim, why are you so worried?

anyway, i highly doubt anyone has that high tolerance of alcoholic drinks.

sooner or later they will have to puke out, since alcohol is not meant for drinking.

apa pulak, main cakap je. rujuk ni

i iz konfused. what defines as arak? is it memabukkan stuff or any stuff that have alcohol in it?

i like barbican, and again, not because i effing wana drink something like beer or any shit but because i like it for real.
to me, its far gooding than mirinda oren, stroberi, yadablabla... i only like coke or pepsi.
but i read somewhere the content is heathier than drinking carbonated drinks, because they are malt beverages, got something to do with sugar..or i forgot.

wow, the fatwa comittee should have some basic scientific people inside quick.

alcohol is najis now?

but back to the topic, from what i understand from the decision (not fatwa, as the para below your quote already clarified that they will bring this up to the majlis fatwa kebangsaan), this would mean that the barbican carbonated fruit drink is halal, since it's made as that, a carbonated fruit drink and not as arak.

so why the fuss about it being haram because it contained barely traceable alcohol content?

when the decision itself mentioned that alcohol that exist as a byproduct of making the drink is allowed?

If its just a malt drink, they shouldnt be labelling it as 'beer halal', coz beer is not halal anyway

a&w root beer would like to have a word with you.

Thats root beer, not actually beer. its just semantics. What I was pointing out that non-alcoholic malt drinks are being paraded around as 'beer halal'

Since in malaysia, most of muslims are shafie.. according to mazhab shafie, if anything that can cause 'syak wasangka', we must avoid it.. there is no calculative method to measure haram or halal..