beteer drink 7-up, coz barbican taste just like that and overpriced too.
Sekat penjualan 'bir halal' [BARBICAN], kosmo News
Sekat penjualan 'bir halal' [BARBICAN], kosmo News
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May 30 2011, 12:32 PM
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beteer drink 7-up, coz barbican taste just like that and overpriced too.
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May 30 2011, 12:40 PM
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May 30 2011, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ May 30 2011, 01:59 PM) i also still not finish 'mengaji'.. as far as i know we muslim cannot simply jump from one imam to another.. but samak only for removing najis.i remembered when i was little, i accidently touch empty beer can during school gotong royong.. its nothing really, but my teacher forced me to 'samak' my hands, even it is not necessary.. 'intoxicating beverages' is a taboo in muslim world bcoz its one of 70 'big sin'.. thats y in mazhab shafie, we always 'play safe' with this kind of thing.. just say bye bye bye to barbican.. alcohol is not najis, it kills germs. used in eletronics cleaner, listerine, and medical cleansing tools, which in turn used on humans. How la need to samak But why need to go under imam? why not just under Allah or Muhammad? this is like once a catholic, cannot go into protestant or other denomination. |
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May 30 2011, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE(rockstar_ @ May 30 2011, 03:45 PM) hahah.. i'm no expert in agama things.. afaik, my mazhab is shafie.. and he told me to do it that way.. no big different between four mazhabs, they all told us to pray, puasa, zakat and haji.. different between those four is just in small2 matters only.. we all believe in Allah and Muhammad, we practicing what our Prophet told us.. all mazhabs say 'arak' is haram.. 'solat', puasa, haji is a must.. no need pening2la.. actually, if small small thing, then no need la so many mazhab. these can lead to disunity. lolz.my opinion also that alcohol itself is not najis.. the one that muslim consider as najis is 'arak', same like drugs, its can become harmful.. for muslim, 'arak' is considered as father of all sins. anyway, arak itself also cannot be najis. It itself has higher alcohol content, it kills germs. How can it simply be labeled as najis? Its not the father of all sins. The father of all sins are men's own ill intent. Arak is a tool. u can use it to clean, or to kill. If people use guns and sword to kill, causes death, then would guns and swords be najis? the one that uses the arak determines its use for good or for evil. yes? |
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May 30 2011, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(bugijun @ May 30 2011, 04:08 PM) arak is considered father to all sin coz when u mabuk u cannot think and will prone to do more sins like zina/rape/murder/etc, sins that u will usually don't do when u are sober when u mabuk, u cant even get a proper erection.you mean that all arak has some charm in it that plants sex and murder into all humans? why dont women rape men when they drink arak? QUOTE(Faidzal @ May 30 2011, 04:11 PM) Arak = concentrated DISTILLED ethanol.If beer is not najis coz, then why is arak, which is DISTILLED beer, najis? the process of distillation kills all germs. |
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May 30 2011, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 30 2011, 05:01 PM) Alcohol UNCLEAN?? not forgetting the torture of livestock animals before slaughtering them just for their stomach.wut kok toking? Ive seen bumper stickers saying 'WE ARE KALIFAH ALLAH' at the same time spewing APPARENTLY POISONOUS CARBON MONOXIDE to the air with their cars... I mean ...talking about Schizoprenics!!!! HAHAHAHAHA |
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May 31 2011, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 09:43 AM) Yes it canalcohol evaporates very quickly when expose to air. More so when you cook it what is remained would be the residue of the wine, which is from grape extract and flavour. learn science, not religion. helps save your life too, someday |
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May 31 2011, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 12:32 PM) how can u surely know that the chef does not make the food half cook? when the alcohol is already evaporated, how can you have any traces of alcohol left behind? and if so, how can there be any chemical equation left? which basically not all the alcohol are evaporated... and if possible give the chemical equation that prove that alcohol in marinated food are 100% evaporated... confirm you are a mangkuk you're thinking that ethanol would combine with the beef to become beefanol izzit? AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA study science la, mangkuk. religion will kill you you one day |
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May 31 2011, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 01:26 PM) 100% alcohol is unsafe for consumption, mangkuk. that sort of alcohol is only for industrial use.Wine is somewhere around 10% to 20%. Most use for taste. Once cook it evaporates. And you can NEVER get intoxicated from it. QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 02:30 PM) Same with ciggaretes, cough mixture, soy sauce. In large amount, anythign can be toxic. Even water! over drinking will kill you. so yea, H2O is haram now. |
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May 31 2011, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(tidus18 @ May 31 2011, 02:43 PM) You have a point - cigarettes, cough mixture, soy sauce. In large amount, anything can be intoxicating. How do you classify these items? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication or overhydrationH2O is i bit over la....right happy4ever? anything in large amount will kill. QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 02:47 PM) like i say before... if u does not have proper documentation, then it will cause DOUBT, anything that is doubtful, better avoid it... Its all in chemistry books, mangkuk. Like i say before, go study science, not your religion. You're getting stupider by your replies here. Basic alcohol reaction to heat = taktau. Wanna act smart? Somemore ask for documentation? hahahaha If you can consume LARGE amount if food cooked in wine, then go ahead. Till then, there have yet to be anyone getting intoxicated with food marinated/cooked in alcohol. Unless of course, you pour the whole bottle in QUOTE ciggaretes is haram la... You sure? Why no Syariah enforcement? QUOTE cough mixture is use to cure cough, so its halal... y u x baca post b4??? unless it is puposely use to get high... Wine too is to prevent cancer. Red wine is rich in antioxidants. So you're saying it one drinks wine not to get high, then its ok? QUOTE So its OK to kill yourself but not ok to get high? Thats a champion. |
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May 31 2011, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 03:18 PM) even i use normal language u still not understand ke??? It is DOUBT... so people still dont know WHETHER its HARAM or NOT... so better avoid it... Doubt leads to IGNORANCE. Thats why simple science you also wont know. coz its the easiest way out for you, to simply IGNORE because you're in doubt. QUOTE proves that cigarettes is haram http://www.e-fatwa.gov.my/fatwa-kebangsaan...pandangan-islam no syariah enforcement because of POLITICS Then how come syariah enforcements on maksiat and pubs? So now which rules Syariah. Allah rules, or politics rules. QUOTE if you drink wine JUST FOR MEDICINE PURPOSE ONLY , then allowed... but did you go buy wine just because to prevent cancer while there is other cheaper and better medicine that can cure cancer also? Wine is cheap la mangkuk. For RM30 to Rm50 you can get good red wine with rich antioxidants. Expensive ones are those for taste and duration of fermenting only. If its for health/medicinal purpose, dont need so expensive. In fact Yomeshu and DOM is well worth its money. QUOTE Sure. Drowning while swimming also can get killed by H2O. over consumption too. But since u didnt see anyone killing themselves using H2O, i suppose youalso havent seen anyone intoxicating themselves with wine-marinated-beef ya |
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May 31 2011, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(kisya @ May 31 2011, 03:39 PM) religion of sex and I drink semen from boys. QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 03:40 PM) yes I admit I IGNORE it because theres a lot of other food that are not in DOUBT, unless im a scientist, why should i have been bothered to prove this halal? Dont you think you will gain more in knowledge if you decide not to blindly ignore things? QUOTE as for maksiat and pub, POLITICS of course Allah rules... but with corrupted leaders... faham2 sendiri sudah... Undi untuk ubahhhh! QUOTE coffee is much more cheaper then wine right? anti-oxidant oso.... Coffee is unhealthy la. Caffine. help you get more cancer, diabetes too. QUOTE INTENTION is actually important same with wine and beer. if u use H2O to drown yourself = haram if u use H2O to drink because of thirst = halal Drink coz its just a beverage (ie coke) and to get some alcohol to boost blood circulation and helps in health. |
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May 31 2011, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 03:41 PM) alcohol = chemical / kimia See, told you go study science, and not to give this craparak = any drink that will cause intoxication or high / apa2 minuman yg boleh memabukkan atau menghayalkan... alcohol = ethanol, methanol, etc. arak = distilled alcohol. or liquor. Higher concentration of alcohol compared to beer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arak_%28drink%29 - nah...muslims also drink Arak. |
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May 31 2011, 03:50 PM
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May 31 2011, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 03:50 PM) yes I know... but I think it is better for me to focus more on my major... just FYI, if as this question to muslim scientist, it will become haram for them to ignore it... aiya, why depend on others? sendiri also must cari ilmu. QUOTE both pembangkang stupidity is too obvious... thats why i don support any party... Thats why BN keep winning majority. If support pembangkang even stupid also, BN would have to double up their effort and do more good deeds. Thats the point Otherwise BN will think they are doing good job. lagi teruk QUOTE but there is other anti-oxidant that is halal right... and other food that will boost blood circulation... so why bother drink beer and wine why there is other halal alternative? Got so many la. But thats not the point. Point is, beer/wine is just like H2O, knife, gun etc. Its in your hands. Jsut because you can abuse it dont make it haram/non-halal. Is your otak and hati not halal only. Not the product/tool. Humans like to blame everything but themselves. Sendiri tersepak kerusi, marah je kerusi seolah olah ia boleh bergerak dan tendang kaki kita. |
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May 31 2011, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(hoimangkuk @ May 31 2011, 03:54 PM) ethanol, methanol = chemical right??? everything is chemical la. basic building block is carbon. distilled alcohol. or liquor = will cause intoxication right? dude, not all arab is muslim la... there is also christian and pagan... i want to have fun oso... everything also can cause intoxication la. Even oxygen also if one breathes in too much (especially pure O2) Arab majority muslim la. church also very hard to setup without kena kacau la. how ppl dare minum Arak. scary la. |
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May 31 2011, 04:42 PM
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no more flame war?
boring. kthxbye |
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