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vccy
post Jun 6 2011, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jun 6 2011, 11:22 PM)
u take video when u r doing high rev and share with us lor... tongue.gif
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LOL. I try. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(cho_petpet @ Jun 6 2011, 10:22 PM)
Protong ma...wat to do... rclxub.gif  doh.gif ..myself also dame frustrated cos alwis fixing my car..until now problem not settle and new one comes..!!! doh.gif
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What have you been fixing? As for the rear sound of my car, i just turn up my speaker volume, kau tim..
Very sien and TIRED to troubleshoot already..

I found a piece of card board in my ACP area when I sent my car for checkup. Sigh, not sure the SC that I went or
shop outside put it in..Now scare to sent my car for modding or service without my eye looking them doing.


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post Jun 6 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(summer9uy @ Jun 6 2011, 10:28 PM)
What have you been fixing? As for the rear sound of my car, i just turn up my speaker volume, kau tim..
Very sien and TIRED to troubleshoot already..

I found a piece of card board in my ACP area when I sent my car for checkup. Sigh, not sure the SC that I went or
shop outside put it in..Now scare to sent my car for modding or service without my eye looking them doing.
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Same ole reason..actually they replace my crank sensor but another problem persists...sound and less power??by just changing the crank sensor will lose on power wan meh?? doh.gif ..i also dono la!!! rclxub.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Jun 6 2011, 10:06 PM)
Go back to SA. Ask them change new car, tell them i waited so long and you give me this bull shit car? Shame on you. Split this out to their CEO.
Half throttle already 180Km/h, If full can fly already?  laugh.gif
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half throttle and full throttle should no much difference lo tongue.gif


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:33 pm
QUOTE(summer9uy @ Jun 6 2011, 10:11 PM)
Possible get your SA into the picture. GO complaint a for new car which I guess your car less than a month old..Still fresh from the factory..Better you take the picture with date and time for prove before your car go into the workshop.


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:12 pm
Meet me at Tmn Jaya LRT station lar.
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where is the tmn jaya LRT station?u means nearby UM there?


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:35 pm
QUOTE(cho_petpet @ Jun 6 2011, 10:22 PM)
Protong ma...wat to do... rclxub.gif  doh.gif ..myself also dame frustrated cos alwis fixing my car..until now problem not settle and new one comes..!!! doh.gif
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i oso wont buy proton ady vmad.gif got alot of rattling sound in car lo..i ady make wrong choice tis time..bcoz i'm aimed to buy vios or forte one..but i heard alot people said proton qc ady improve alot,so i juz choose again proton as my 2nd car..who know still same alot rattling as my previous wira se sweat.gif


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:36 pm
QUOTE(vccy @ Jun 6 2011, 10:24 PM)
LOL. I try. biggrin.gif
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remember snap 0-100 video as well..then v can knw u can hit it wit how long time lo brows.gif

This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Jun 6 2011, 10:36 PM
xandras
post Jun 6 2011, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 6 2011, 09:26 PM)
@xandras: d technician/foreman came n inspect my car today...say 1st time c dis case...
he opened my engine cover....d 4 pistons bcome vry teruk...one already burnt...d other 2 pistons in d middle forgot wad he say...then d 4th one is covered wif black oil...n d electronic circuit within d engine also burnt...open up d engine cover is all leaked engine oil...
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I told u ur pistons kaput d. That's the reason why ur engine noise vibrates like hell, also the reason why ur engine oil spilled all over the place. I suspect they gave u a unit with cracked engine block (although this is rather impossible, but anything is possible with proton). Also explains why ur engine oil level is below the safe zone even after I topped it up the other nite.

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 6 2011, 09:57 PM)
tmr they will tow to the proton in cheras...1st option is to ask them to change a new car...2nd option in case they dun wan to take responsibility is repair n claim insurance...dis is wad d technician said dis afternun...everything hv to wait until they check 1st...
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No 2nd option man. This is ur new and 1st car, rite? If ur car so new already claim insurance, what's the point of getting a new car just to lose a few thousand bucks? Let Proton earn blind profit? The best u can do now? SUE THEM!! I'll be by ur side if u need any help, u have my support. Sue till they lat foo for providing a customer with brand new car 'pre-installed' with problems. If the problems are minor, then it's ok. But in ur case u can actually sue them n ask them to pay u to compensate for the damages & time spent/wasted.

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 6 2011, 10:05 PM)
sorry...is tow to tmn bukit maluri i care proton edar. the foreman say 1st time wor c dis case...below d engine cover got electronic boards?cz he say all burnt already...
of cz a total new car lo...
actually option 2 is for JUST IN CASE THEY REALLY NOT RESPONSIBLE...cz might wan to ask lawyer also to help if PROTON really dun wan to be resposible to change a new one for me.
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The electronic board that he meant were the ignition coils. The ignition coils are burnt, therefore causing severe damage to other parts of the engine including the internals.

QUOTE(cho_petpet @ Jun 6 2011, 10:18 PM)
xan xan,zen zen where are u alll!!!!...NEED HELP from me and ckdenion!!!
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Back. What help u need? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 6 2011, 10:21 PM)
wad help do i need? lol...even d foreman already say he can do nothing n can only take to d icare proton edar there...i dun care la actually d process...as long as d final result is replace a new car for me...tats all...
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No. Practice ur rights as a consumer. This is the reason why Proton's quality hasn't been improving over the years. Because the CONSUMERS DONT ACTUALLY CARE!! Sue them till they revamp their whole QC & PDI departments to ensure that future buyers & existing Proton owners get what quality stuff & service, which is what they're paying for.
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 6 2011, 10:40 PM)
I told u ur pistons kaput d. That's the reason why ur engine noise vibrates like hell, also the reason why ur engine oil spilled all over the place. I suspect they gave u a unit with cracked engine block (although this is rather impossible, but anything is possible with proton). Also explains why ur engine oil level is below the safe zone even after I topped it up the other nite.
No 2nd option man. This is ur new and 1st car, rite? If ur car so new already claim insurance, what's the point of getting a new car just to lose a few thousand bucks? Let Proton earn blind profit? The best u can do now? SUE THEM!! I'll be by ur side if u need any help, u have my support. Sue till they lat foo for providing a customer with brand new car 'pre-installed' with problems. If the problems are minor, then it's ok. But in ur case u can actually sue them n ask them to pay u to compensate for the damages & time spent/wasted.
The electronic board that he meant were the ignition coils. The ignition coils are burnt, therefore causing severe damage to other parts of the engine including the internals.
Back. What help u need? rclxub.gif
No. Practice ur rights as a consumer. This is the reason why Proton's quality hasn't been improving over the years. Because the CONSUMERS DONT ACTUALLY CARE!! Sue them till they revamp their whole QC & PDI departments to ensure that future buyers & existing Proton owners get what quality stuff & service, which is what they're paying for.
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i agree wat the xandras said..juz sue them if they wont replace new car for u vmad.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 6 2011, 11:03 PM)
ur rim still is stock?maybe rim oso will affect lo..but 180kmh is enough for me ady..takut mati lo tongue.gif my max speed is 180kmh due to i always maintain half throttle onli..more than tat i takut lo..tats why i said my car topspeed is 180 :Pwhen u take ur car?last year??
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yes still stock rim... no money change to r3 rims ... brows.gif last year october.. eh ? u half throttle only 180 ? wah full throttle ma 250km/h lor? drool.gif drool.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 6 2011, 10:40 PM)
I told u ur pistons kaput d. That's the reason why ur engine noise vibrates like hell, also the reason why ur engine oil spilled all over the place. I suspect they gave u a unit with cracked engine block (although this is rather impossible, but anything is possible with proton). Also explains why ur engine oil level is below the safe zone even after I topped it up the other nite.
No 2nd option man. This is ur new and 1st car, rite? If ur car so new already claim insurance, what's the point of getting a new car just to lose a few thousand bucks? Let Proton earn blind profit? The best u can do now? SUE THEM!! I'll be by ur side if u need any help, u have my support. Sue till they lat foo for providing a customer with brand new car 'pre-installed' with problems. If the problems are minor, then it's ok. But in ur case u can actually sue them n ask them to pay u to compensate for the damages & time spent/wasted.
The electronic board that he meant were the ignition coils. The ignition coils are burnt, therefore causing severe damage to other parts of the engine including the internals.
Back. What help u need? rclxub.gif
No. Practice ur rights as a consumer. This is the reason why Proton's quality hasn't been improving over the years. Because the CONSUMERS DONT ACTUALLY CARE!! Sue them till they revamp their whole QC & PDI departments to ensure that future buyers & existing Proton owners get what quality stuff & service, which is what they're paying for.
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bro...my dad say he wans to bring to court case also if proton dun wan replace new car.cz my dad knws someone from MCA who deals wif dis stuff n my dad knw a lawyer also...my bro-in-law also somehow knw dis MCA guy a lil la...so i diam diam let my dad handle la...yea true also if only few days old car n also my 1st car already claim insurance...nex time i deal wif insurance, i also jialat liao...
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 6 2011, 10:43 PM)
i agree wat the xandras said..juz sue them if they wont replace new car for u vmad.gif
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If you want TT to protest at COSE, we also come support.. brows.gif see proton want us drink teh tarik or want press coverage brows.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 6 2011, 10:40 PM)
I told u ur pistons kaput d. That's the reason why ur engine noise vibrates like hell, also the reason why ur engine oil spilled all over the place. I suspect they gave u a unit with cracked engine block (although this is rather impossible, but anything is possible with proton). Also explains why ur engine oil level is below the safe zone even after I topped it up the other nite.
No 2nd option man. This is ur new and 1st car, rite? If ur car so new already claim insurance, what's the point of getting a new car just to lose a few thousand bucks? Let Proton earn blind profit? The best u can do now? SUE THEM!! I'll be by ur side if u need any help, u have my support. Sue till they lat foo for providing a customer with brand new car 'pre-installed' with problems. If the problems are minor, then it's ok. But in ur case u can actually sue them n ask them to pay u to compensate for the damages & time spent/wasted.
The electronic board that he meant were the ignition coils. The ignition coils are burnt, therefore causing severe damage to other parts of the engine including the internals.
Back. What help u need? rclxub.gif
No. Practice ur rights as a consumer. This is the reason why Proton's quality hasn't been improving over the years. Because the CONSUMERS DONT ACTUALLY CARE!! Sue them till they revamp their whole QC & PDI departments to ensure that future buyers & existing Proton owners get what quality stuff & service, which is what they're paying for.
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Change the crank sensor..will by changing it lose power...felt sluggish after changing it..anyways,notice that mine originally from germany meant for VDO(pre-install) then they change it to made in china wan...Any suggestion??

after changing it,notice sound near driver there..like they screw it not tight enough..1!! doh.gif rclxub.gif

By the way,u still need the cap anot??

This post has been edited by cho_petpet: Jun 6 2011, 10:52 PM
ckdenion
post Jun 6 2011, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 6 2011, 10:43 PM)
i agree wat the xandras said..juz sue them if they wont replace new car for u vmad.gif
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QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jun 6 2011, 10:45 PM)
thumbup.gif If you want TT to protest at COSE, we  also come support.. brows.gif see proton want us drink teh tarik or want press coverage brows.gif
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let my dad do tat...im so busy wif work...if not bcz of my dad...i guess i got no time to call them up n c today...i dun mind how long they take la as long as they replace new car for me...d number plate still remains rite? tongue.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(saddient @ Jun 6 2011, 10:44 PM)
yes still stock rim... no money change to r3 rims ...  brows.gif last year october.. eh ? u half throttle only 180 ? wah full throttle ma 250km/h lor?  drool.gif  drool.gif
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yup,my car half throttle can go to 180..its normal,rite?full throttle i think will be not much difference gua..after 180 above,the meter seems very heavier and slowly increase..most highest speed i test is 200,then i release pedal ady


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:55 pm
QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jun 6 2011, 10:45 PM)
thumbup.gif

If you want TT to protest at COSE, we  also come support.. brows.gif see proton want us drink teh tarik or want press coverage brows.gif
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ya,i oso will come to support if needed thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by samwongjyhhorng: Jun 6 2011, 10:55 PM
muslayer
post Jun 6 2011, 10:56 PM

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REQUEST A NEW CAR OR NEW ENGINE....

time to write to newspaper and make sound...Also....You got take pic of those burn things? Publish it out to Facebook...i sure everyone will know...then the CEO will call u for a meeting

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post Jun 6 2011, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 6 2011, 10:56 PM)
REQUEST A NEW CAR OR NEW ENGINE....

time to write to newspaper  and make sound...Also....You got take pic of those burn things? Publish it out to Facebook...i sure everyone will know...then the CEO will call u for a meeting
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im not at home...working ma...only my dad n bro in law saw d condition of d piston...d foreman say if i continue drive like tat...d engine might jz explode...tat day xandras came n open d engine oil cover...got smoke come out...but d thing is d temperature meter shows normal temp leh which is below half...so can i trust d meter nex time?
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post Jun 6 2011, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 6 2011, 10:44 PM)
bro...my dad say he wans to bring to court case also if proton dun wan replace new car.cz my dad knws someone from MCA who deals wif dis stuff n my dad knw a lawyer also...my bro-in-law also somehow knw dis MCA guy a lil la...so i diam diam let my dad handle la...yea true also if only few days old car n also my 1st car already claim insurance...nex time i deal wif insurance, i also jialat liao...
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Good. But tell ur dad even if they replace a new car for u also go bring it to court. Don't be satisfied just because they replace a new car for u, or else their QC & PDI will NEVER improve and the way we look at Proton will stay the same. Dun just diam diam, u must know ur rights. The most Proton will do is replace a new engine for u. How much u wanna bet with me for that? They'll just swap a new engine for u & stamp it at JPJ, whereby this process will take up an entire month, maybe more. They'll bring out all sorts of bullsh!t telling u that they need the authorities to sign this & that, need to inspect, bla bla. Proton never take their customers seriously until they retaliate & complain. Time is gold, and if u had a dollar for every single second u wait for them to replace ur engine, u'll be a millionaire by the time u get ur car.

QUOTE(K.Lee @ Jun 6 2011, 10:45 PM)
thumbup.gif

If you want TT to protest at COSE, we  also come support.. brows.gif see proton want us drink teh tarik or want press coverage brows.gif
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Press coverage? Good idea, but can be done only after u sue them. Or else Proton sue u back for defamation wink.gif

QUOTE(cho_petpet @ Jun 6 2011, 10:46 PM)
Change the crank sensor..will by changing it lose power...felt sluggish after changing it..anyways,notice that mine originally from germany meant for VDO(pre-install) then they change it to made in china wan...Any suggestion??

after changing it,notice sound near driver there..like they screw it not tight enough..1!! doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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Trust ur ears. If u think u hear loose noise, chances are they never tighten it properly. About the sluggish/underpowered part, u may wanna let ur ECU adapt itself for a few days to a week first before deciding to do anything else. Anything to do with electronics and sensors have to go through our ECU. So give it some time.

Urs is PE, rite? If they change ur sensor from 'VDO' to 'Made In China', it means all the PEs out there are running VDO Made In Germany stuff. C'mon, Continental is a Germany brand, of course must let it drink Hoeegarden la. If u let it drink chinese tea, how to expect it to perform? smile.gif

What i'm trying to say is, what are the possibilities of an OEM sensor not working well with OEM ECU? And what are the chances of a 'China mali' brand working better with a German-engineered ECU?
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post Jun 6 2011, 11:04 PM

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Just DON'T IGNORE THOSE PROTON TIDAK APA ATTITUDE. Make things serious so that future Proton user will have better QC car.

Should have make noise with those 3 Proton Persona Representative people.

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post Jun 6 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 6 2011, 11:52 PM)
let my dad do tat...im so busy wif work...if not bcz of my dad...i guess i got no time to call them up n c today...i dun mind how long they take la as long as they replace new car for me...d number plate still remains rite? tongue.gif
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complain against the SA as well..... customer service like taik only...


Added on June 6, 2011, 11:06 pm
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 6 2011, 11:55 PM)
yup,my car half throttle can go to 180..its normal,rite?full throttle i think will be not much difference gua..after 180 above,the meter seems very heavier and slowly increase..most highest speed i test is 200,then i release pedal ady


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:55 pm

ya,i oso will come to support if needed thumbup.gif
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see.... sam always tell lies... said ur topspeed is 180..... then now 200 d... full throttle become 250 trust me....

u dun make ur balls shrink like green peas like xan said.... make them like durian ... spiky one... step to the max.... then only u can feel what is PE icon_idea.gif brows.gif icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 6 2011, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(muslayer @ Jun 6 2011, 11:04 PM)
Just DON'T IGNORE THOSE PROTON TIDAK APA ATTITUDE. Make things serious so that future Proton user will have better QC car.

Should have make noise with those 3 Proton Persona Representative people.
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The Persona reps are paid to promote PE, do u think they'll listen to u? smile.gif But if u really get their attention, good. They have some really powerful voice and this can really make a lot of difference to ur court hearing.

QUOTE(saddient @ Jun 6 2011, 11:04 PM)
complain against the SA as well..... customer service like taik only...


Added on June 6, 2011, 11:06 pm

see.... sam always tell lies... said ur topspeed is 180..... then now 200 d... full throttle become 250 trust me....

u dun make ur balls shrink like green peas like xan said.... make them like durian ... spiky one... step to the max.... then only u can feel what is PE  icon_idea.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Complain the SA no use la. He still got his car within the week, and getting car within 1 week considered good/fast enough d. The PDI & QC departments should be the target instead.
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post Jun 6 2011, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jun 7 2011, 12:09 AM)
The Persona reps are paid to promote PE, do u think they'll listen to u? smile.gif But if u really get their attention, good. They have some really powerful voice and this can really make a lot of difference to ur court hearing.
Complain the SA no use la. He still got his car within the week, and getting car within 1 week considered good/fast enough d. The PDI & QC departments should be the target instead.
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complain about the quality of service after sales..... hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 6 2011, 10:32 PM)
half throttle and full throttle should no much difference lo tongue.gif


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:33 pm

where is the tmn jaya LRT station?u means nearby UM there?


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:35 pm

i oso wont buy proton ady vmad.gif got alot of rattling sound in car lo..i ady make wrong choice tis time..bcoz i'm aimed to buy vios or forte one..but i heard alot people said proton qc ady improve alot,so i juz choose again proton as my 2nd car..who know still same alot rattling as my previous wira se sweat.gif


Added on June 6, 2011, 10:36 pm

remember snap 0-100 video as well..then v can knw u can hit it wit how long time lo brows.gif
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ya... as u mentioned, high rev very fast to climb up...

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