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post Jun 16 2011, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(Noobi3 @ Jun 16 2011, 04:35 PM)
Sorry bro , no idea on this as i dun use ad hoc ....... was referring to mikahakkinen
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Jun 16 2011, 10:57 AM)
why would u go and compare what is in the market now with what is not yet in the market lol the A5 will probably emerge in the market at year end, that's when the tegra3 will be released too and that tegra 3 aka Kal-El equivalent to a core2duo T7200 notebook processor will eat your surely A5 for breakfast, lunch and dinner rofl....that time r u gonna say A6 which has not released will tapao the kal-el? lulz...be realistic ,man...

have u check out the review of the GS2 in the net, it more or less tapao the i4 and guns for the i5 which HAS NOT RELEASED YET lol its like comparing an apple with a rotten orange, thats the power of a 1.8-2k perfect smartphone...not to mention the strings of i4 limitations that surely give alot of frustrated i4 to jump wagon to GS2.
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well........im sory if i had offended you guys about my reviews on the sgsII, but wat im trying to say is jz dat i had actualy expected much more from sgs2....im nt trying to critisize sgs2 but i expected it to b at least on par wif the a5 chip...............sgs2 was previously dubbed as the 'most powerful phone in the world' when it was released and definitely i would had expected much more from sgs2, but it was released wif a tegra2 instead of other more powerful chips(mind you that tegra2 was released ages ago), and we had seen tegra2 getting pwned by other competing chips so badly.......

n mind u, the a5 was released months ago in the form of ipad2 and i5 wil use exactly the same thing as that, n dis gives samsung a few months of head start to catch up on a5........n u shuld nt compare sgs2 wif i4 since they r both diffrent generations, instead the previous sgs1 was much more powerful than i4.....

i am a huge fan of galaxy s n the reason why i skipped buying lg optimus 2x which is the first dual core phone is becos i wanted to wait for sgs2 n i expected much more frm sgs2 .......but instead the oni diffrence nw between sgs2 n optimus 2x is the SAMOLED screen n 1gb of ram........

n theres oni curently few types of chips..... ..powervr(ipad2 n, i5) > adreno(htc phones) > tegra2(optimus2x, sgs2)> mali(sgs2 exynos version)........cn u imagine the disapointment of seeing the much hyped and awaited "most powerful phone" sgs2 comes wif the lousiest chip........after waiting for so long.......

long gone the days of galaxy s phones being the "most powerful phone"............

i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations, i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Jun 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
well........im sory if i had offended you guys about my reviews on the sgsII, but wat im trying to say is jz dat i had actualy expected much more from sgs2....im nt trying to critisize sgs2 but i expected it to b at least on par wif the a5 chip...............sgs2 was previously dubbed as the 'most powerful phone in the world' when it was released and definitely i would had expected much more from sgs2, but it was released wif a tegra2 instead of other more powerful chips(mind you that tegra2 was released ages ago), and we had seen tegra2 getting pwned by other competing chips so badly.......

n mind u, the a5 was released months ago in the form of ipad2 and i5 wil use exactly the same thing as that, n dis gives samsung a few months of head start to catch up on a5........n u shuld nt compare sgs2 wif i4 since they r both diffrent generations, instead the previous sgs1 was much more powerful than i4.....

i am a huge fan of galaxy s n the reason why i skipped buying lg optimus 2x which is the first dual core phone is becos i wanted to wait for sgs2 n i expected much more frm sgs2 .......but instead the oni diffrence nw between sgs2 n optimus 2x is the SAMOLED screen n 1gb of ram........

n theres oni curently few types of chips..... ..powervr(ipad2 n, i5) > adreno(htc phones) > tegra2(optimus2x, sgs2)> mali(sgs2 exynos version)........cn u imagine the disapointment of seeing the much hyped and awaited "most powerful phone" sgs2 comes wif the lousiest chip........after waiting for so long.......

long gone the days of galaxy s phones being the "most powerful phone"............

i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations,  i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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weird mezzi-quan kept repeating that sgs2 uses tegra2 and focus more on that and sidelines the exynos version...

no body has gotten a hand on tegra2 version yet.... or did mezzi-quan get a hand on one?
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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Jun 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
well........im sory if i had offended you guys about my reviews on the sgsII, but wat im trying to say is jz dat i had actualy expected much more from sgs2....im nt trying to critisize sgs2 but i expected it to b at least on par wif the a5 chip...............sgs2 was previously dubbed as the 'most powerful phone in the world' when it was released and definitely i would had expected much more from sgs2, but it was released wif a tegra2 instead of other more powerful chips(mind you that tegra2 was released ages ago), and we had seen tegra2 getting pwned by other competing chips so badly.......

n mind u, the a5 was released months ago in the form of ipad2 and i5 wil use exactly the same thing as that, n dis gives samsung a few months of head start to catch up on a5........n u shuld nt compare sgs2 wif i4 since they r both diffrent generations, instead the previous sgs1 was much more powerful than i4.....

i am a huge fan of galaxy s n the reason why i skipped buying lg optimus 2x which is the first dual core phone is becos i wanted to wait for sgs2 n i expected much more frm sgs2 .......but instead the oni diffrence nw between sgs2 n optimus 2x is the SAMOLED screen n 1gb of ram........

n theres oni curently few types of chips..... ..powervr(ipad2 n, i5) > adreno(htc phones) > tegra2(optimus2x, sgs2)> mali(sgs2 exynos version)........cn u imagine the disapointment of seeing the much hyped and awaited "most powerful phone" sgs2 comes wif the lousiest chip........after waiting for so long.......

long gone the days of galaxy s phones being the "most powerful phone"............

i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations,  i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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it's understandable for you to be disappointed..but you gotta understand that you shouldn't force your expectations on other people.

if it's something you can't live with then no point grouching also..same as me when SGS came out, was disappointed with the lagging and all the problems, decided not to get it. simple as that.

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post Jun 16 2011, 05:15 PM

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sorry for another noob question ..

i have rooted my phone this morning but when i installed titanium backup, it said that my phone is not rooted ...

im confuse ... how to check that the phone is rooted other than setting> about phone > kernel version ??

thanks guys
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post Jun 16 2011, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(SuperMach @ Jun 16 2011, 05:15 PM)
sorry for another noob question ..

i have rooted my phone this morning but when i installed titanium backup, it said that my phone is not rooted ...

im confuse ... how to check that the phone is rooted other than setting> about phone > kernel version ??

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u can check ur kernal version.. sometimes it stated root in the name or check application superuser is installed or not in your app drawer
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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Jun 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
well........im sory if i had offended you guys about my reviews on the sgsII, but wat im trying to say is jz dat i had actualy expected much more from sgs2....im nt trying to critisize sgs2 but i expected it to b at least on par wif the a5 chip...............sgs2 was previously dubbed as the 'most powerful phone in the world' when it was released and definitely i would had expected much more from sgs2, but it was released wif a tegra2 instead of other more powerful chips(mind you that tegra2 was released ages ago), and we had seen tegra2 getting pwned by other competing chips so badly.......

n mind u, the a5 was released months ago in the form of ipad2 and i5 wil use exactly the same thing as that, n dis gives samsung a few months of head start to catch up on a5........n u shuld nt compare sgs2 wif i4 since they r both diffrent generations, instead the previous sgs1 was much more powerful than i4.....

i am a huge fan of galaxy s n the reason why i skipped buying lg optimus 2x which is the first dual core phone is becos i wanted to wait for sgs2 n i expected much more frm sgs2 .......but instead the oni diffrence nw between sgs2 n optimus 2x is the SAMOLED screen n 1gb of ram........

n theres oni curently few types of chips..... ..powervr(ipad2 n, i5) > adreno(htc phones) > tegra2(optimus2x, sgs2)> mali(sgs2 exynos version)........cn u imagine the disapointment of seeing the much hyped and awaited "most powerful phone" sgs2 comes wif the lousiest chip........after waiting for so long.......

long gone the days of galaxy s phones being the "most powerful phone"............

i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations,  i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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out of curiosity is there any software that fully utilises any of the dual core power at the moment ? when you mentioned that powervr > adreno > tegra2 > mali ... is it based on pure benchmark figures or real world tests ? I believe the majority of consumers are not so concerned about pure numbers and rather feel the difference in processing power doing their day to day task ...

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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Jun 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
well........im sory if i had offended you guys about my reviews on the sgsII, but wat im trying to say is jz dat i had actualy expected much more from sgs2....im nt trying to critisize sgs2 but i expected it to b at least on par wif the a5 chip...............sgs2 was previously dubbed as the 'most powerful phone in the world' when it was released and definitely i would had expected much more from sgs2, but it was released wif a tegra2 instead of other more powerful chips(mind you that tegra2 was released ages ago), and we had seen tegra2 getting pwned by other competing chips so badly.......

n mind u, the a5 was released months ago in the form of ipad2 and i5 wil use exactly the same thing as that, n dis gives samsung a few months of head start to catch up on a5........n u shuld nt compare sgs2 wif i4 since they r both diffrent generations, instead the previous sgs1 was much more powerful than i4.....

i am a huge fan of galaxy s n the reason why i skipped buying lg optimus 2x which is the first dual core phone is becos i wanted to wait for sgs2 n i expected much more frm sgs2 .......but instead the oni diffrence nw between sgs2 n optimus 2x is the SAMOLED screen n 1gb of ram........

n theres oni curently few types of chips..... ..powervr(ipad2 n, i5) > adreno(htc phones) > tegra2(optimus2x, sgs2)> mali(sgs2 exynos version)........cn u imagine the disapointment of seeing the much hyped and awaited "most powerful phone" sgs2 comes wif the lousiest chip........after waiting for so long.......

long gone the days of galaxy s phones being the "most powerful phone"............

i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations,  i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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wait, what are you talking about? the MY version is not using Tegra 2, no?
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post Jun 16 2011, 05:28 PM

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looks like maxis has remove the S2 from their website and also the registration for the phone info. I guess they will be updating the website with the full package details...
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post Jun 16 2011, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(SuperMach @ Jun 16 2011, 05:15 PM)
sorry for another noob question ..

i have rooted my phone this morning but when i installed titanium backup, it said that my phone is not rooted ...

im confuse ... how to check that the phone is rooted other than setting> about phone > kernel version ??

thanks guys
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install Root Checker from market.
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post Jun 16 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Jun 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations,  i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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AFAIK, nobody (on planet earth report that they have tegra version of SGS2 yet. You can buy the "much powerful" sgs2 now since you don't mind to pay more. It will be officially launch next week by Maxis, RRP is 2099 (cheaper than AP set).

People nowadays just got hyped easily with hardware spec and "poison" by the marketing team (they can make ads that make you feel to buy immediately). Just buy whatever phone that suit your needs. Always go out the test the phone that you plan to buy. Also, no point spending 3K for a smartphone but only use for SMS and call.

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QUOTE(mezzi-quan @ Jun 16 2011, 04:52 PM)
well........im sory if i had offended you guys about my reviews on the sgsII, but wat im trying to say is jz dat i had actualy expected much more from sgs2....im nt trying to critisize sgs2 but i expected it to b at least on par wif the a5 chip...............sgs2 was previously dubbed as the 'most powerful phone in the world' when it was released and definitely i would had expected much more from sgs2, but it was released wif a tegra2 instead of other more powerful chips(mind you that tegra2 was released ages ago), and we had seen tegra2 getting pwned by other competing chips so badly.......[SIZE=14][COLOR=red]

n mind u, the a5 was released months ago in the form of ipad2 and i5 wil use exactly the same thing as that, n dis gives samsung a few months of head start to catch up on a5........n u shuld nt compare sgs2 wif i4 since they r both diffrent generations, instead the previous sgs1 was much more powerful than i4.....

i am a huge fan of galaxy s n the reason why i skipped buying lg optimus 2x which is the first dual core phone is becos i wanted to wait for sgs2 n i expected much more frm sgs2 .......but instead the oni diffrence nw between sgs2 n optimus 2x is the SAMOLED screen n 1gb of ram........

n theres oni curently few types of chips..... ..powervr(ipad2 n, i5) > adreno(htc phones) > tegra2(optimus2x, sgs2)> mali(sgs2 exynos version)........cn u imagine the disapointment of seeing the much hyped and awaited "most powerful phone" sgs2 comes wif the lousiest chip........after waiting for so long.......

long gone the days of galaxy s phones being the "most powerful phone"............

i am nt trying to condemn sgs2 or create trouble here......nor am i a fan of iphones .......i am just very disapointed that sgs2 didnt live up to its expectations,  i dun mind spending a few hundred bucks more for a much powerful sgs2 using other chips instead of tegra2.......
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if its confirm not properly root ... can i just redo the rooting process?
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i called our kk sscentre today he say charge rm100 labor for AP set lol

i guess ive to wait for SME launch then. later if flash also wanto charge me labor fee, cha bo liao...cuz here we have one n only SSC.

anyone from kk here?
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Mezziquan : i read through your whole tirade and has this to say. One cannot compare performance just solely based on hardware specs alone. Your view of such is just too simplistic and I would even said naive. Similar analogy it does not mean a 2000 cc car is more powerful than a 1800 cc car. Do you know, example the VW Golf GTi 2.0 litre has better pickup and quicker off from stationary versus the BMW 2500 cc car . The VW cost RM 230,000 vs RM 400,000 of the BMW

Performance heavily depends on software. Not to degrade your opinion, I always say the SGS is the worst Android smartphone I have ever used ( even with all the OCLF, voodoo fix, cook roms ) ; see my signature to see all the androids I have used. This stand of mine has make many SGS users unhappy. If you are coming from the SGS, the SGS 2 will blow your brains apart when you use it. It is a 100% , 360 degree turn around beast of a smartphone. One of the most obvious improvement is Samsung became wiser and adopt a EXT4 file system in the SGS II versus the old antique RFS system in the older SGS - this makes a lot of difference

So don't get so disturbed - the probably milisecond degrade in performance due to your argument it having a less powerful chip will not affect your joy/experience using the phone. I don't think our brain has the power to be able to discern accurately such differences in performance. Don't get too influenced by statistical analysis of performance.
GEEZ - it is only a phone, why get so disturbed by it. If you are not happy, just don't buy it
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QUOTE(wayfeel @ Jun 16 2011, 05:59 PM)
i called our kk sscentre today he say charge rm100 labor for AP set lol

i guess ive to wait for SME launch then. later if flash also wanto charge me labor fee, cha bo liao...cuz here we have one n only SSC.

anyone from kk here?
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jun 16 2011, 06:05 PM)
Mezziquan : i read through your whole tirade and has this to say. One cannot compare performance just solely based on hardware specs alone. Your view of such is just too simplistic and I would even said naive. Similar analogy it does not mean a 2000 cc car is more powerful than a 1800 cc car.  Do you know, example the VW Golf GTi 2.0 litre has better pickup and quicker off from stationary  versus the BMW 2500 cc car . The VW cost RM 230,000 vs RM 400,000 of the BMW

Performance heavily depends on software. Not to degrade your opinion, I always say the SGS is the worst Android smartphone I have ever used ( even with all the OCLF, voodoo fix, cook roms ) ; see my signature to see all the androids I have used. This stand of mine has make many SGS users unhappy. If you are coming from the SGS, the SGS 2 will blow your brains apart when you use it. It is a 100% , 360 degree turn around beast of a smartphone. One of the most obvious improvement is Samsung became wiser and adopt a EXT4 file system in the SGS II versus the old antique RFS system in the older SGS - this makes a lot of difference

So don't get so disturbed - the probably milisecond degrade in performance due to your argument it having a less powerful chip will not affect your joy/experience using the phone. I don't think our brain has the power to be able to discern accurately such differences in performance. Don't get too influenced by statistical analysis of performance.
GEEZ - it is only a phone, why get so disturbed by it. If you are not happy, just don't buy it
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Supermach : the first time you run Titanium Backup - it will always show your phone root cannot be accessed . When you launch it first time, there is a warning dialog box - did you see it ?? Depending on what version you are running - either tap the problems box to update busybox or update busybox separately
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jun 16 2011, 06:05 PM)
Mezziquan : i read through your whole tirade and has this to say. One cannot compare performance just solely based on hardware specs alone. Your view of such is just too simplistic and I would even said naive. Similar analogy it does not mean a 2000 cc car is more powerful than a 1800 cc car.  Do you know, example the VW Golf GTi 2.0 litre has better pickup and quicker off from stationary  versus the BMW 2500 cc car . The VW cost RM 230,000 vs RM 400,000 of the BMW

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