For temperature not less than 10C, no need scarf & glove-lah. Only if below 10c or even lower, you need a scarf. Glove if below 5C

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Added on November 14, 2011, 4:03 pmIf strong wind, the 17C can drop to 13C and will be hily but still no need scarf & glove-lah...Anyway, at 17C without wind is actualy nice temperature and almost similar to ~ 21C in CH/Genting not the other way round.. Over there it is dry but Genting is wet & cool.

I just came back from Beijing.. on avg Afternoon- Evening temperature avg 14C and nite & early Morning ~ 6- 10C. Still no need scarf & glove even Nite & early Morning.. OK only.. but once temp drop to 5C, yes need scarf liao. normal glove also can at 5C & below This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 14 2011, 04:03 PM

I was there mid Dec 2009, and temperature is not as cold as what I expected lor. Yes really yoyo. On the day I arrived.. I was shocked bcos it was not cool but hot temp at 26C. Only on nxt day temp dropped to 20C and the 3rd day avg 18-20C wth nite & early Morning temperature ~ 15C. Only in Jan & Feb Taiwan temp will drop further to ~ 10C. Infact I dunno why but comparing Hong Kong & Macau which is having lower latitude than Taiwan, That area is much colder.

Anyway, as you say, probably personal lor..but also you must see the overall Taipeis folks style of winter wear.. If they dun wear glove and you go and wear abit odd lor haha.. Just like last week when I arrived at Beijing and Temperature that day Evening ~ 14C. Well I feel more like CH nite time nia..~17C CH. just wear a sweater.. I can see few M'sian on plane wearing thick witer clothing which is odd compare wth overall folks in Tianjin and Beijing wearing only sweater just like me. Only Early Morning & nit when temperature drop to ~ 8C and sometime as low as 6C (Well reported as 2C in weather underground??)..I just wear a down jacket wth a tee-shirt inside. no scarf & even glove..so do most Beijing folks. If I wear glove & scarf, it will very odd in Beijing haha..Probably by nxt mth when Beijing temp drop below 0C - yes. you need additional tee/ long John wth down jacket + scarf + glove for sure.. esp when temperature below -10C as what I experienced in Seoul last dec

I din visit the Gold ecological park but straight to Jiufen via Keelung after Morning till afternoon visit to Yehliu geopark.

I think posible if you dun cover Yehliu.

BTW, talking about weather in Taiwan esp Taipei, I hv been following closely the weather pattern for weeks after my last trip back to M'sia 2 yrs ago and still can't understand it..Taipei of having higher latitude than Hong Kong but from my observation & comparison on same mth & almost same date, Hong Kong having colder or almost similar weather as Taipei..

Just check the current weather of both cities from days now and you will understand what I'm talking about

1) Hong Kong: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findwe...query=hong+kong

2) Taipei: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findwe...st?query=taipei

Well, probably due to maritime monsoon as you said really kenot brain it haha.

Anyway, trust that weather website data-lah...pretty accurate wth +- 3C. Now only 24C what where got 17C haha. Infact those weather website reporting abit lower than actual wan..Just like my last week Beijing trip. Website mentioned 2C but my own thermometer that I carried wth me showing 6C nia...and daytime website mentioned 12C my thermometer showing 16C nia.

I normally put outside the open window edge wan haha..for eg..this was taken last week and I put my thermometer outside the edge of the window overnite.. Well, not the coldest Morning as I recorded ~ 6C on one Morning last week but temperature on weatherunderground that time reported much colder at 3C.. ..


Similar reading recorded when I was in Seoul last yr. For eg, one cold Morning, I recorded minus -10C but weatherunderground showing minus-15C.. probably they took the wind effect kua haha

Just check the history pg of weather underground or any other weather website can dy. Depending on early, mid or end Feb lor. Early Feb probably still cold ~ 10-12C, Mid Feb ~ 15C & late Feb ~ 18C for eg:


Or check the chart on pg1

This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 16 2011, 12:36 PM

I'm not sure about that website bcos I cant read chinese & probably showing area ~ Mountaneous region/ ALishan?

but FYI, that temp I posted earlier by me in Beijing last week...and on arrival the bullet train outside temperature showing 14-15C and I still wearing normal sweater and feeling just like CH nite time nia haha.. So it will not be really cold in Taipei lah. except closer to end of Dec & Jan. when temperature probably similar to Beijing/Seoul end Oct- Early Nov Temperature

Weatherunderground & lotsa wether website kenot be wrong

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Added on November 16, 2011, 3:38 pmOr on your website...I just saw temp ~ 25-26C just about right wth those weatherunderground what...nothing diff what?

This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 16 2011, 03:38 PM

Yes I know esp those mountaneous areas like Alishan & Mt Huanshan ..Well Mt Huanshan even slow in Jan what haha

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Just take it the sunrise & sunset almost similar to Sabah/Sarawak timing lor haha. BTW, Pen M'sia is probably the only rebelion country wth weird/odd sunrise & sunset hours..all tnx to our Govt (inc Singapore) suka-suka go and change our timing to conform wth Hong Kong & Sabah & Sarawak timing.. Other visitors elsewhere will feel odd when they experience sunset at 7pm haha

You will not feel odd or weird when you visited more countries and most of them also sunset ~ 5:30 to 6pm...haha..Pen M'sia is the one really odd having sunset at 7pm

nice try but this is not kopitiam This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 17 2011, 08:47 PM

Wawasan already out of business since early Oct till now. So right now there is actually no online money changer rate references liao till wawasan get the licensing matter settled.

Anyway, from past experiences, changing to US$ 1st & thereafter to NT$ will save you ~ RM30 for every RM1000 converted to US comparing to direct conversion. If you willing to absorb this losses, just change direct.

And anothe rgood option is to withdraw from ATM. you will be charged ~ RM12 to (?) per transaction (Depending on banks)..and the rate is better than Money changers for sure.

I went to Taroko during winter but DIY.. i.e bought own train ticket & hire a day taxi there.


This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 23 2011, 07:00 AM

Well I went there in a group of 4. If I refer to my earlier posting..the return train ticket ~ RM80/pax, hiring taxi - RM200/4 =RM50/pax & food very negligible-lah same like KL..~RM5/pax/lunch. So total = RM135/pax

Better book online or once u are in Taipei, 1st thing, goto main station and prebook 2 days earlier.. Even I bought a day earlier at the ticket counter, most of the express seat for Tomorrow trip almost full dy..I was lucky that day but too bad on return trip, no more Taroko express seat & even no seat ticket - I was on standby normal train meaning.. if the seat already prebooked, I hv to vacate for others...My family hv to switch few times during the return journey to give way Once I hv to sit on the floor!

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Added on November 28, 2011, 12:40 amThe front pg link is to the lateast online rate at Taipei airport liao This post has been edited by stimix: Nov 28 2011, 12:40 AM

No need deposit but you need to pay full upon check-in.

If no more seat tickets, you still can take the "Stanby ticket" which mean standing-lah haha.

Ringgit Malaysia is even worst if you change in Taiwan if I'm not mistaken. If you do not want to change to USD & thereafter to NT$, might as well change all RM to NT$ in KL. Anyway by switching to RM>USD>NT$ only will save you RM30-RM40 for every RM1000 you change. So if you do not want to be troublesome, change all RM to NT$ locally. RM is very rare in Taiwan..well except in Taoyuen airport

If u dun spend a lot, Taipei is just like KL and if all hotels already paid for or you going to pay via Credt card..Just budget the same as though you're in KL. well...If KL, 1 week ~ RM200...inc of tranport & food..even RM200 also can dy. but if you want to spend, than..budget another RM500 to RM1k lor.

Da'an area is ~ Taipei 101..abit pricey kua and the food court food in Taipei 101 probably just like the price or slightly expensive than KLCC food court..budget the same lor..I can't think of any nice food in Taipei bcos none of the food ther really good compare to M'sia haha..

Just eat what you can find lah..famous one probably Ah Chong mee sua in Ximending or shihlin nite food market - fried chicken & lousy ocien..or stinky tofu?..All within the reach of MRT from any stations in Da'an