Forumer you are complaining against: fariq_azad

Item being sold/bought: HP Laptop 2210B

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1874488&hl=

Date of transaction: 13th May 2011

Details of the complaint : I traded this laptop from him and he claim everything is ok, on that day when i brought it home, i found out that the charging of the laptop is so slow, i called him, he says HP laptop charging is slow, i say i ll try 1 or 2 days to see it has any problem, the next day the charger broke down, i called him to replace me a charger he refused so i bought a new charger at my own cost to replace the faulty charger and now the charger spoilt again, i bring the laptop to the technician suspecting something amiss, the technician told me the laptop charging chips is faulty and again i called up this seller and guess what, he told me he is not taking any responsible to the faulty chip as he stated everything is in good condition in the threat.

PM him about this thread so he can come explain.

I hope he will refund to u..good luck

Thanks Bro

did the technician mentioning to u any cost of fixing it? the seller gave u any personal warranty?

Verbally 1 week, RM200 to fix it. what should i do Apis, you are the pioneer here.

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Added on May 23, 2011, 2:13 pmI message him just now, he says he do not know anything about laptops and do not know whats is a charging chips, thats why he would not take any responsibility..

This post has been edited by BlastPadt: May 23 2011, 02:13 PM

what he mean by did know anything about it. i have once bought thinkpad from him before. and he is well known on selling used lappy. so, i wonder what he mean by know nothing. pm him to respond here. he should take the responsibility if he did verbally give u 1 week warranty.

Wow.. He told me he know nothing about laptops. I already PM him this topic.

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Added on May 23, 2011, 2:57 pmThanks.. Apis for the info..

This post has been edited by BlastPadt: May 23 2011, 02:57 PM

Hi bro Apis, I'm glad you still remembered me. This is actually what I most fear to happen to me, but alas I happened aswell

Alright here is my side of the story. As you know I have been selling laptops and gadgets ini lowyat for a long time...since 2005 I think. Anyways all these years I have practiced this to avoid any "pening-pening kepala"

1) Always COD only (even though I have done some postage for small stuff like memory cards)

2) Test Kaw-kaw during COD (I always invite my buyers to sit down (usually at McD's) test everything WiFi, sound, charge...etc (but sometimes people say no need or invite to go into their cars, i'll just follow)

3) I never provide any form of warranty (hence why step 1 is always encourage) If so happens that The Item I am selling has manufacturer warranty (SiS, Lenovo, Avaxx etc etc) then its a bonus for the buyer (and also good for me since I dont like to "pening-pening kepala")

- Now I'm not a business man,I do this small time to help some friends and trying out new gadgets. i dont have a shop thus do not have the spares. "Refuse" makes me sound like such a bad guy . Believe you me that I'f I had a spare I would have quickly settled but I dont.

- Accusing me of selling a faulty laptop is not fair either as I have tested it myself for a couple of days before posting it up for sale. I test the start up, the wireless, and reformat it and install the OS, download drivers, bring it out and test it a WiFi hot spots, and also draining the battery and charging it up to full.

- In conclusion, The laptop worked FINE and DANDY when it was with me.

- What you did with the laptop after that is anyones guess. I really dont know if you tried to mod anything or install anything extra (like a modem) which is conflicting or incompatible etc etc.

- and yes its true, I still dont know what is a "charging chip" (if this is the term used by the tecnician) I dont even know how to test a "charging chip" heck I dont even know how to use a Multimeter.

- And just like what I have told Blastpadt when he called me up. Electronics are pretty unpredictable, what happened to you was a case pure coincidence as we can never tell when an electronic circuit is going to fail, It could fail in 2 days or even 2 years no one really knows.

- If I am still accused of selling off faulty items the I should suggest every one who sells second hand laptops open up the laptops strip it down and test every feakin chip and circuits inside before selling it off.

Pheww tired typing already. out for now. need some inner peace.

What about the slow charging that i complaint it to you, and you told me HP laptop charge slowly, my technician told me there is no such a thing, well is only RM1k, not a big sum. But i will continue to notify everyone here to be extra careful when dealing with you. You told me you are giving me a week warranty in such if I got any problem i can come back to you. So the conclusion is you are not a responsible seller. I give you a negative on this. I m sure i m being cheated by you. To anyone who read this, be extra careful when dealing with this guy, see what he says, he can't make sure that everything he sell is in good condition, unless he need to open up the whole thing upside down to look at it. (He don't even bother to know the thing he selling is in good shape) or maybe he knows it and try to off hand it to some people that don't know about it. (I call that as victim)

And just like what I have told Blastpadt when he called me up. Electronics are pretty unpredictable, what happened to you was a case pure coincidence as we can never tell when an electronic circuit is going to fail, It could fail in 2 days or even 2 years no one really knows..
(See how irresponsible this is)

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Added on May 23, 2011, 9:26 pmI told you the charge is 5 seconds and indicate is not charging, after awhile it charge again for few seconds and it stops, you say is normal for a HP laptop. (Damn, you are cheating me) My technician says no such things. It bust 2 of my Original HP charger that I bought.

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Added on May 23, 2011, 9:44 pmI saw you online but no respond to this threat.. What happen farid_azad.. What about your coincidence teory?

This post has been edited by BlastPadt: May 23 2011, 09:44 PM

BRO!!! please DO NOT LIE!!! I never mentioned anything about warranty.
I DONT give personal warranty!!!

I have never given warranty for any items in my previous sales thread unless its a warranty by the manufacturer.

I implore you bro, please.... go and ask anyone who has ever bought anything from me. I NEVER BELEIVE in Personal warranty!!!! to AVOID such things as this. You can dig it up bro snd you wont see me editing any of my previous threads.

Actually anyone can claim this and that.

for the record I gave no such warranty as it has been a long time policy of mine.

I read up seller's sale thread and he really didn't mention any personal warranty wor... I advise seller to state DOA to better protect himself...

I did ask verbally, he agrees to it, if do not want to admit is fine, gods know what you said, well as i said, never mind is only RM1k. Thats the value of you, it is extremely cheap, my dog worth more than that (LOL). But I ll definately help you to advertise. Thanks everyone for reading last but not least, Beware of trading with this guy fariq_azad, trade with him only if you got extra cash to repair so call goods. If not choose to buy from others. If possible avoid trading with him.

This post has been edited by BlastPadt: May 23 2011, 11:51 PM

Good morning,

yup, infact I had a signature mentioning D.O.A. last time. but mods deleted it coz I put some extra pictures on my sig which was too big I think.

I know every buyer can have their say but sellers are entitled to their protection aswell rite? all these years I have been very careful and have always thought that these steps are enough.

well then I too have learnt a valuable lesson from this thread and will change my policies a bit: Such policies are as follows

1) I practice COD only (near my area) - I dont do postage coz even though I may be trusted and buyer may be trusted but sometimes courier CANNOT be trusted.

2) I provide no personal warranty (never ever) unless item has a valid distributor/manufacturer warranty which I can show to the buyer via receipt/warranty card or sticker or online warranty check. In other words D.O.A.

3) Please for gods sake come and sit down with me to TEST KAW-KAW the item. As I usually COD at McD's or Starbucks (public place with wifi and powersockets) Also for safety reasons.

4) Please KNOW the risks involved when buying 2nd hand electronic gadgets. I am not a shop, I do not have spares or even much resources like a shop. If you are worried about this then you may seek second hand shops. But their prices are usually around RM100-200 higher

5) NO RESERVATIONS - I dont want ur money only until I give you the item. I can only reserve to item for 24hrs max once buyer has confirmed time and place of C.O.D. in other words first come first served.

6) A shake is a shake and a deal is a deal, in islam we call this "akad" usually I will always say "saya jual" and the buyer says "saya beli" and then the transaction is done. What a buyer does with the item ONCE I have handed it over is realy none of my concern. (A buyer could have mishandled it, neglected it or even abused it. I would never know)

anyways what can I say - at the end of the day its very unfortunate that this had to happen, I am actually quite upset (no one like to be accused)

recommendations to other sellers

- learn how to use a multimeter? so that can test ever chip, IC, and circuits before selling.
- during COD just smile and keep quite, dont be too chatty like me since some buyers like to twist my words and only hear what they want to hear.

For the record :

- I do not sell faulty items. coz if I did I would be dragged into a dispute and its too troublesome. so why would I?
- No personal warranty was given. It has been a long time policy of mine.why would I change my policy for this "special" buyer?
- As a seller who helps other people sell off thier gadgets, the best I can do is nego the price for and cant do much the deal is done.


thank you.

Thanks to fariq_azad for responding here. We have heard from both parties. up to u guys. still hope both of u can settle this peacefully.

Thank You Apis, but there is a few point this seller cheated me, he claims HP charge notebook slow, this is something unacceptable, 1 week personal warranty as such i can come back to him within, that he knows nothing about notebook coz he seldom sell notebook here. All this are lies. As I said, Is only RM1k. It is so cheap. Seller willing to lie and cheat coz of RM1k. RM1k for your personality and free ads by me. Hope this cheater will learn a lesson some days, friendly reminder, don't talk about religious when you are a liar. Thats nothing to do do with Multi-Tester as you can see it the notebook charge up damn stupid slow, for the battery to fully charge, it takes more than 12 hrs. He knows, it, thats why he told me HP charge battery slow (Damn Cheater). A genuine and sincere seller has nothing to worry about, only sinful seller will worry some days he will end up here in this forum so I see why he is so worry on this coz he is a Damn CHEATER, LIAR. EVERYONE HERE do not buy anything from fariq_azad, he sell faulty item to victims. the so called goods with problem will not be test, he don't even know a notebook simple charging takes less than 2 hrs to fully charge, he ll blame all to the multi-tester. He is a stupid dumb who do not know anything as he claims. (i think he knows more than me, as i believe he is trying to off hand some faulty goods to victims). I m already a victim to him, I do not hope the next victim will be you. So when you see fariq_azad, just don't buy from him to protect yourself.

if a laptop charge slow that is something wrong with the laptop already

no such thing is some laptop charge slowly .

next time u see no personal warranty stuff . just dont buy .

test kaw kaw in the spot thingy is BS. some problem can only occur few hour even few day later. so ask for atlest 3day personal waranty

good luck

Thanks for the advice, I did ask, he verbally giving me 7 days.. Thats why i m being cheated as he told me HP laptop charge slowly . I learn a lesson, thats why i m here to notice everyone, DO NOT BUY FROM A CHEATER THAT GIVING ALL KINDA PROMISES BEFORE YOU BUY AND ALL KIND OF EXCUSE AFTER YOU BOUGHT. This person i m mentioning is fariq_azad. Don't buy from him or you will regret as what I m now.

This post has been edited by BlastPadt: May 24 2011, 12:58 PM

what i can say at least provide 7days warranty ...~ and record down all the part number of laptop , charger and other things... also provide warranty sticker on the laptop screw hole.. so no one can be open .. event have problem within warranty date also no other technician able to check. If not warranty void... sure... seller have to get back the notebook and fix the problem for buyer lar.. (fair to each side).

That is the point bro but this is like a hit and run case. The charger that he supply to me burn on the next day, I called him up, he do not want to take any responsibility, claiming a modem (broadband modem) that i used burst the charger. Is this some kinda joke? Never mind, I bought an Original Charger at my own cost, it burst again, I got back to the shop, you know what they do? They change a totally new 1 to me (i call this professional service). I brought it back to use, within 24 hours it burst again. This time i bring along my laptop to the technician, after some inspection, the technician told me the charging chips of the laptop is faulty, of coz i got to call this liar cheater fariq_azad. This time he say he do not know anything about charging chip or laptop and turn me down that he hold no responsibility to the issue that he know this laptop charging is super slow and yet he lie to me that HP charging battery slowly. Lame excuse.

I have known Mr Fariz Azad to be very professional in dealing with his stuff.... been buying / selling stuff from him numerous times... Good lad. Things happen for a reason... Sit and talk like one gentlemen to another... if he sold bad stuff then i would have been a victims of thousands and thousands of ringgit... but... i haven't. So.. i'm up for mr fariq azad...

Remember me bro fariq... u sold me your guitar effect and some ps3 games... nice to have known u... any other stuff u can interest me... PM me ah.
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