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 Acer TimelineX 3820TG & 4820TG V2, Owners and visitors discussion

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TSkizwan
post Jun 27 2011, 03:04 PM

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Summary:-
  • x1 link with any ExpressCard slot or mini-PCIe port
  • x2 link with combination of port 1 & 2 or 3 & 4 or 5 & 6.
  • x4 link with port 1 & 2 & 3 & 4

Common problem:-
  • On some notebooks, manufacturer set TOLUD register too high. This can caused a problem. You'll can only use 2GB to 3GB of RAM.
  • To run comfortably & with 4GB or more RAM, the TOLUD register must be set to at least 3GB. Dell Studio 1555/1557/1558, Inspiron 1440 & Studio XPS 164x notebooks have low TOLUD.

For more information, go to:-
eGPU Experience
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:07 PM

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conclusion, dell laptop a bit hard to play with this card lo? bro u bought 2 expensive lah.. 2009 card leh.. got come with foc dirt 2 game ma?
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 27 2011, 02:47 PM)
Manufacturer produced several model of the same card. Like ATI HD 5870, all manufacturer at least produced two model; 1) standard HD 5870 & 2) overclocked version of HD 5870. Mine is standard. Basically both are based on same chipset. So, why not buy standard one & overclock yourself.

If you don't have any plan for SLI or CrossFireX, buy HD 5870, because it is slightly faster than HD 6870. If you plan to setup SLI & CrossFireX in the future (if you plan to buy one by one), buy HD 68xx cards.

Added on June 27, 2011, 2:52 pm
Better get HD 5870. No one have tried this on TimelineX yet. Do 3820TG have ExpressCard slot? If not, can use mini-PCIe port. Depend on the mini-PCIe port configuration, you can setup x1, x2 or x4 link.
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HD 5870 is better of coz! but it is also much more expensive, as 5850 only selling at RM455! biggrin.gif

3820tg does not have ExpressCard slot... may be i'll try using the mini-PCIe port for this in the future!

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post Jun 27 2011, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(Fstria @ Jun 27 2011, 02:57 PM)
bro, thanks. but how to differentiate standard or OC 1? got a card 5870 eyefinity.. i not interested with sli or crossfirex now or future.. that's y i personally like this card cos affordable with not more than 500.. yaya if 6870 run dual got better performance.. but this card OC can't go further much if no mistake.. i curious y u dun pick asus 5870 instead of powercolor? LCS & PCS for wat actually & got what different with the performance? so u tried on 3820tg performance ok? everything stable smooth & silky? how the temp? + did u oc this card?

You'll know because the box will indicate whether the card is overclocked or not. For PowerColor, the LCS stand for Liquid Cooling Solution while PCS indicate the card is using customized FAN/cooling & PCS+ indicate the card is overclocked at factory. I chose PowerColor because I already bought many Asus graphic card in the past. tongue.gif
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bro how come u brought so mahal? shouldn't it not more than 500? or my colleague son grab 1 is fake?
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I think you bought HD 5850 kot?

Added on June 27, 2011, 3:16 pm
QUOTE(Fstria @ Jun 27 2011, 03:07 PM)
conclusion, dell laptop a bit hard to play with this card lo?
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No, low TOLUD is better. Higher is bad. So, Dell Studio 1555/1557/1558, Inspiron 1440 & Studio XPS 164x notebooks can use DIY external graphic card (eGPU) without any problem.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Jun 27 2011, 03:17 PM
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:21 PM

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sure anot? cos i always heard dell bad thing.. once u said low mean cheap-plug.. mcm 5850 kot.. bang i double check eh.. but i google 5850 certain model the heat-sink mcm tercabut.. i rmb the heat-sink is unnoticeable.. so LCS better or PCS?? u mean asus gpu not good is it?? brows.gif does it support any mobo? i can't rmb my bro mobo but he used HIS 4670 512mb 128bit.. now using geforce g210m 64 bit cos HIS rosak! x leh pakai 1 HIS iceQ memang sejuk..

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post Jun 27 2011, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jun 27 2011, 03:09 PM)
HD 5870 is better of coz! but it is also much more expensive, as 5850 only selling at RM455! biggrin.gif

3820tg does not have ExpressCard slot... may be i'll try using the mini-PCIe port for this in the future!

NICE MOD!
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HD 5850 can too. Hehe. The kit I bought from HWtools.net is around USD 102. Around RM 300. I transfer the money from my bank account to PayPal account (instant transfer). Fast delivery too from Taiwan using FedEx (included in the price). So, total is around RM1225 (eGPU kit + PSU + HD5870). tongue.gif With HD 5850 can get under RM1k total.

Go to eGPU Experience. You can see list of tested notebooks.

This post has been edited by kizwan: Jun 27 2011, 03:30 PM
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:27 PM

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kizwan urs is LCS OR PCS?? apa perbezaan antara this 2??

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kizwan, but need external screen is it? Especially for SXPS16..
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Jun 27 2011, 03:28 PM)
kizwan, but need external screen is it? Especially for SXPS16..
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this 1 i know.. need some plug.. can play at sxps16..
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(Fstria @ Jun 27 2011, 03:27 PM)
kizwan urs is LCS OR PCS?? apa perbezaan antara this 2??
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Cooling. LCS use liquid for cooling. PCS use customized fan/heatsink.
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:33 PM

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so urs is??? then for me PCS sound better..
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(lee_what2004 @ Jun 27 2011, 03:28 PM)
kizwan, but need external screen is it? Especially for SXPS16..
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If the external graphic card is ATI, will need to use external monitor, regardless of notebooks brand/model. If you have notebook with Intel HD onboard (Intel 3000 or 4500), better get Nvidia graphic card because can use internal monitor & can activate optimus.

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post Jun 27 2011, 03:36 PM

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i know can play on laptop screen but fps mayb not me optimize fully.. but still manageable!
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Fstria @ Jun 27 2011, 03:33 PM)
so urs is??? then for me PCS sound better..
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Mine is neither. Mine is standard HD 5870 with ATI standard fan design. Standard HD5870 & PCS HD5870 are the same except the FAN. I don't like PCS because the back of the card is naked. The standard have cover.

BTW, I never have problem with ASUS graphic card. The last card is ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT. I sold it including my PC to a friend.
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM

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yaya pcs is bogel.. habuk tersebar nono for me.. dunno y 5870 LCS? ya asus is good.. but price of asus 5870 slightly mahal right?
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(Fstria @ Jun 27 2011, 03:36 PM)
i know can play on laptop screen but fps mayb not me optimize fully.. but still manageable!
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The FPS can drop a little if there are to many data transferred from & to the graphic card through x1 link. But average FPS should be OK.
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 27 2011, 03:24 PM)
HD 5850 can too. Hehe. The kit I bought from HWtools.net is around USD 102. Around RM 300. I transfer the money from my bank account to PayPal account (instant transfer). Fast delivery too from Taiwan using FedEx (included in the price). So, total is around RM1225 (eGPU kit + PSU + HD5870).  tongue.gif With HD 5850 can get under RM1k total.

Go to eGPU Experience. You can see list of tested notebooks.
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NOT CHEAP! no wonder not many people doing it!

but it sure impressive to see the score coming out from a notebook!
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post Jun 27 2011, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Fstria @ Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM)
yaya pcs is bogel.. habuk tersebar nono for me.. dunno y 5870 LCS? ya asus is good.. but price of asus 5870 slightly mahal right?
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If I'm not mistaken, ASUS have three model for HD5870 cards. Standard HD5870, overclocked HD5870 & RepublicOFGamers HD5870.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM)
The FPS can drop a little if there are to many data transferred from & to the graphic card through x1 link. But average FPS should be OK.
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but best method still come with external monitor cos once we get this 'benda' wallet pain still wanna spend another same price of 5870..
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jun 27 2011, 03:42 PM)
NOT CHEAP! no wonder not many people doing it!

but it sure impressive to see the score coming out from a notebook!
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For short run, yeah it's not cheap but for long run, it can consider cheap. In the future you just need to upgrade the graphic card but still using the same old notebook (RM400 to RM700, depend on whether you want casual or premium performance). tongue.gif
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