Yeah, agree with that! CVT does give some surprise to me.
I had test drive the Sulphy. Mind you, the moment I step on the pedal and floor it. It feel like air plane taking off.
Shifting is smooth as silk....
So don't say it's an uncle car k. Cause this uncle can smoke you too!

Manual is the best. U can adjust by urself to suits ur driving style. Manual FTW!!

in the other hand...
auto is the best. it can adjust by itself to suit ur driving style. auto ftw!!

Which auto car does that?

almost all auto in modern world do that.
ECU will pick up the driving style & adjust the valving/cam timing/ injection vol/ fuel-air ratio accordingly.
not to mention the trans shifting

This post has been edited by yamato: May 28 2011, 03:10 PM

erm...........................

hmm? i never feel freedom while driving auto cars.. only can 'break and run free' while driving manual.. its can pick up driving style? sometime i like to drive fast, sometime slow, sometime stop & run.. it can know what i want to do?

the change is insignificant but progressive.
its not like a push of button n voila u get into sport mode.
the ECU needs time to "learn" your style, say 10 or 20hrs (just an assumption) to complete the learning then decide the best setting for you.

IF like that, while im craving for insane speeding but the ECU still learning.. while after 10 or 20 hours later when it finally learnt my driving style.. im back to normal driving like crawling tortoise dy.. isnt it not efficient? yeah my driving style not constant might due to studying pressure..

i've been driving my city vtec for 3 years already...
and i'm currently driving a GTI...
love the CVT smooth acceleration.. quick revs...

but problem is CVT really fragile.. and those lower end cars with CVT cannot mod at all... like what someone said cannot tahan the high hp/torque
i've never driven a more expensive car with CVT like A4 etc

but after driving my new 4 weeks old GTI
i would definetly go for DSG over CVT

i have only 1 problem with DSG...
if u are cruising on 6th gear... and u want power and u full throttle u will have some lag time... due to the gears need to downshift 2-3 gears.. hence will take some time for the DSG to downshift from 6 to 3-4



as for manual tranny all about user preference.. since TS only asked about CVT and DSG i would suggest stick to the topic

for malaysia (KL) roads i would sure go for auto better... go where also jam >.<

This post has been edited by stalkerrox: May 29 2011, 01:54 AM

Stick to TS, im will vote for DSG since i travel mostly highway. haihs.. if only there is gearbox which can be like manual but no need to press clutch.. no need to downshift to desired gear for few times..

6th gear at 60km/h eh?
i think it's because the gti's rpm is lower than 1700rpm at the time. which is in the turbo lag zone.
i always curse when the gti chose 6th gear at 60km/h.. can't pull away. downshift a bit then zooom

and yes DSG gives not so pleasant experience during traffic jam, back and forth 1>2>1>2>1 the DSG confuse and jerks a lot

yea around that speed...
i havent had any problems with it jerking yet haha...
maybe next time jam just use manual mode and leave it on 1st

the gear 1 and 2 jerking is because using ron 95?

not fuel, it's the transmission, it's more optimized for upshifts

yes staying in 1st gear during stop and go traffic helps

DSG FTW!!
If the transmission gets confused in heavy traffic, just switch to manual mode. All you have to do is find the sweet spot at the throttle for every gear change for buttery smooth, sporty, eye-watering, orgasmic inducing shifting. bit carried away that last bit, but you get the idea.

I'm assuming that every car with DSG has a manual override option....right?

This post has been edited by tunertoobe: May 29 2011, 08:24 PM

nothing orgasmic if using DSG during traffic jam

yes push the gear lever to the left and you get a fully manual mode. however it will downshift if your current speed is too low for the current gear

The grip on DSG is better because it uses clutch just like manual gear that is why you get the jerking feeling during start stop. I believe the gear control computer should not be too different from CVT/Auto as it's either up/down/maintain gear.

CVT uses torque converter which is fluid based so it runs smoother during start stop. It has unlimited gear ratio which optimizes the gear.

If you talk about power lose DSG will have minimum power loss compared to CVT. Thus the performance.

Anyway both gearbox can't handle high power as good as manual. Failure on DSG could cost you alot to repair.

In DSG you can always select manual shift if you don't like how it handles in traffic.

DSG better. cvt is fast but somehow it doesnt give the fast type feeling.
for ppl do not like sport then cvt is the one for them.

Um? Doesn't the Bugatti Veyron have a DSG?