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LynnZed
post May 20 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ May 20 2011, 04:00 PM)
no, u are technician. OnG like technician more then engineers bcos

"some people can tell you the square root of an orange, but they don't know how to peel it."
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Well said rclxms.gif i graduated with EE degree but seriously so hard to find a job thats more than 3k. been released by Petronas few months ago. they also dont have (that much) money to cater fresh grads engineer.
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post May 20 2011, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(gemo @ May 20 2011, 04:24 PM)
hahahahahah, try find a job at good business potential gain la engineers! explore the world, than you can find the job pay you a lot of bucks ~

My friend working for Alcatel-Lucent base at London, project submarine cable network. Working round the world (at least 3 month at oversea) His payment £120/day (not include his claim/food/transportation/bonus) .. his family living at Malaysia dont have much problem at all.
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£120/day is pretty low if based in london

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post May 20 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 04:40 PM)
£120/day is pretty low if based in london
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Yeah, he is lucky because did not to live at London ...
£120/day his daily payment (total of his salary is up to £8k/month)
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post May 20 2011, 04:50 PM

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diploma in engineering is technician yo

but some factory, they offer job with post "bla bla bla engineer" to diploma holder, but technician level pay.

those are different ok? if you are diploma holder and you are technician regardless of "bla bla bla engineer" post jangan perasan engineer ok? submit your application to BEM and get reject letter

me work at kroni company and get handsome pay!!!
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 05:29 PM)
Well said  rclxms.gif i graduated with EE degree but seriously so hard to find a job thats more than 3k. been released by Petronas few months ago. they also dont have (that much) money to cater fresh grads engineer.
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http://www.graduan2u.com/2010/10/10/kelly-...y-guide-201011/

Kelly benchmark for malaysian emplyment.
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post May 20 2011, 04:56 PM

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my dad..civil engineer...IR title..
so wat..work stress...early in the morning go 2 work liao..come bak 10pm...
more work 2 do...underpay..stupiat boss...wan face
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post May 20 2011, 05:07 PM

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In US, they had two path for career growth plan for each of their employees. One is technical side another managerial part. Although it's totally diff path the outcome salary is not much different. A senior manager earning more or less the income of a senior engineer. Since they're significant towards each other.

But in Msia, sad but tru. engineer is high level kuli. Make sure the company provide OT, Mileage claim and other allowance before u accept their offer cause basic pay definitely not enough. Driving a City? wearing Frogskin and APC? with 3k? bullshi* i'd say

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aLittleMisfit
post May 20 2011, 05:09 PM

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why u all keep saying high class kuli?! there is no such thing as high class kuli for engineer!!!

its multi purpose kuli
kaffra
post May 20 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:07 PM)
In US, they had two path for career growth plan for each of their employees. One is technical side another managerial part. Although it's totally diff path the outcome salary is not much different. A senior manager earning more or less the income of a senior engineer. Since they're significant towards each other.

But in Msia, sad but tru. engineer is high level kuli. Make sure the company provide OT, Mileage claim and other allowance before u accept their offer cause basic pay definitely not enough. Driving a City? wearing Frogskin and APC? with 3k? bullshi* i'd say
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i have no idea wtf is frogskin, APC and why the F would i drive the POS city.
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post May 20 2011, 05:17 PM

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IT very cham oso... my skillset can easily be replaced by Indians/Indons/Pinoys/Thais for lower price rclxub.gif
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post May 20 2011, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 05:12 PM)
i have no idea wtf is frogskin, APC and why the F would i drive the POS city.
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don't get trigger too fast if it ain't got nothing to do with u. i just lay an example of a fresh grad engineer dreams when they start working n earn their own money.
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post May 20 2011, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(gemo @ May 20 2011, 04:24 PM)
hahahahahah, try find a job at good business potential gain la engineers! explore the world, than you can find the job pay you a lot of bucks ~

My friend working for Alcatel-Lucent base at London, project submarine cable network. Working round the world (at least 3 month at oversea) His payment £120/day (not include his claim/food/transportation/bonus) .. his family living at Malaysia dont have much problem at all.
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QUOTE(gemo @ May 20 2011, 04:48 PM)
Yeah, he is lucky because did not to live at London ...
£120/day his daily payment (total of his salary is up to £8k/month)
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yeah my fren's uncle's nephew's fren also same thing
Engineer working in somewhere on earth, minimum £210/day

i hidung damn kembang siot can tell his story in /k/
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post May 20 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:07 PM)

But in Msia, sad but tru. engineer is high level kuli. Make sure the company provide OT, Mileage claim and other allowance before u accept their offer cause basic pay definitely not enough. Driving a City? wearing Frogskin and APC? with 3k? bullshi* i'd say
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engineer - OT?
u smoking weed?
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post May 20 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(hidzwan @ May 20 2011, 05:20 PM)
don't get trigger too fast if it ain't got nothing to do with u. i just lay an example of a fresh grad engineer dreams when they start working n earn their own money.
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There are quite a lot of jobs that do give a decent starting pay in malaysia. But of course it needs the right people.
Problem is a lot of the newbies i saw have poor english skills, and not thinking rather expecting things to be told. Who is going to pay big bucks for this?
As for your examples, if being overly materialistic, at least aim higher on the luxury scale.
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post May 20 2011, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 20 2011, 05:23 PM)
yeah my fren's uncle's nephew's fren also same thing
Engineer working in somewhere on earth, minimum £210/day

i hidung damn kembang siot can tell his story in /k/
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LOL laughed to hard. Luckily its lunch time tongue.gif
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post May 20 2011, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Yuka Yuka @ May 20 2011, 04:00 PM)
no, u are technician. OnG like technician more then engineers bcos

"some people can tell you the square root of an orange, but they don't know how to peel it."
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QUOTE(LynnZed @ May 20 2011, 04:29 PM)
Well said  rclxms.gif i graduated with EE degree but seriously so hard to find a job thats more than 3k. been released by Petronas few months ago. they also dont have (that much) money to cater fresh grads engineer.
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work your way up dude.. u think everything easy in life? if i hire u also i'll ask u, i give u 3k, wat can u give me? ask a lot but know so little.. no work exp.. summore wanna demand.. kids dis day.. wanna come work late, go back home early..
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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 20 2011, 05:25 PM)
engineer - OT?
u smoking weed?
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why? my company have an OT rate for all non-management staff. rm35 per hour is pretty decent for me. even my senior engineer colleague still has OT rate. His basic around 9k.

QUOTE(kaffra @ May 20 2011, 05:32 PM)
There are quite a lot of jobs that do give a decent starting pay in malaysia. But of course it needs the right people.
Problem is a lot of the newbies i saw have poor english skills, and not thinking rather expecting things to be told. Who is going to pay big bucks for this?
As for your examples, if being overly materialistic, at least aim higher on the luxury scale.
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i agree, but u should know how kids these day was raised. especially those who live in urban area and mingle with millionaires kid. how bout a hard working, speak fluent english, o&g engineer whom earn almost half of what other engineers from another country earned but still done nothing less from them. The problem lies in the eyes of the beholder?
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post May 20 2011, 06:07 PM

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i m civil engineer enjoying RMxx,xxx salary here but forever alone. no family package sad.gif
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post May 20 2011, 06:10 PM

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oversea?
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post May 20 2011, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(aichiban @ May 20 2011, 01:55 PM)
I engineer also...
work 5+ years still earning below 3k  sad.gif
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ya,

there is i saying Engineer is under pay.....
how to survive? High pressure low payment.... hmm.gif

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