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post May 2 2011, 05:50 PM, updated 15y ago

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ST BOMBER just took down GSL progamer of the month Slayers MMA 2-0
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post May 2 2011, 05:51 PM

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Damn it how did Bomber do that in the first game. He was so far behind in the early game. Guess he has better positioning during every huge encounter.
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post May 2 2011, 06:02 PM

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ST bomber has S class TvT......MMA on the other side, has btr TvZ and TvPs.....(he lost to ST Bomber in GSTL too, rmb the typhon peak game? where Bomber was 90 supply to near to double supply of MMA and bomber came back)


Added on May 2, 2011, 6:36 pmAlive dont know how to play TvT.....pretty newbie



troll: yet he beat boxer 2-0

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post May 2 2011, 07:54 PM

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Owh we have TvTvTvTvTvTvTvT in Code A semi final and final.
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post May 2 2011, 08:26 PM

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codeA = where terran reigns supreme
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 2 2011, 08:26 PM)
codeA = where terran reigns supreme
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lowyat forum = where protoss QQ terran
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post May 2 2011, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 2 2011, 08:40 PM)
lowyat forum = where protoss QQ terran
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2 season ago was terran heavy as well for codeA
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post May 2 2011, 08:51 PM

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ya. when Top and Byun were in the final. i think their semis are full T too.
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post May 2 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 2 2011, 08:51 PM)
ya. when Top and Byun were in the final. i think their semis are full T too.
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its funny hw dynamic GSL are for codeA...
terran domination -> toss domination -> back to terran?
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post May 2 2011, 08:55 PM

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last season???? it was Losira's season ma...
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post May 2 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 2 2011, 08:55 PM)
last season???? it was Losira's season ma...
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majority was toss rite?
i dun remember lol...
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 2 2011, 08:52 PM)
its funny hw dynamic GSL are for codeA...
terran domination -> toss domination -> back to terran?
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Terran dominate, thus promoted to Code S
After that, toss came in, san etc
then Toss dominate Code S, Terran drop back to code A
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post May 2 2011, 10:02 PM

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PvT although not as bad as PvZ, still toss favored. see those toss, most of them are famous to have S class PvT (squirtle, alicia, MC, San(b4)...)

while terrans..........all of them are weak in TvP, significantly, our leader MVP. his TvP suck big time lol...maybe MKP is good in TvP recently but he was famous for TvZ and TvT too...jinro was good in TvP b4 he go korea, now TvP is his worst.
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ May 2 2011, 09:46 PM)
Terran dominate, thus promoted to Code S
After that, toss came in, san etc
then Toss dominate Code S, Terran drop back to code A
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protoss imba?
think again
http://twitpic.com/4sdkpv/full


Added on May 2, 2011, 11:16 pmany more QQ from terran/ zerg deserve to be facepalm

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there is no way u can stop QQ in a strategy-game especially a game which is not even released officially a year yet.

Anyway, today code S is pretty terran-nized with first match TvT and then TvZ
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post May 3 2011, 05:23 PM

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NAIS TvT opening by nada
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post May 3 2011, 05:29 PM

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Lol Nada rape Top really hard in the first game.
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post May 3 2011, 05:34 PM

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game 2: rock paper scissors, TOP rock, Nada scissors. but golden scissors that can cut rock.


Added on May 3, 2011, 6:17 pmnada is showing champion traits


Added on May 3, 2011, 6:35 pmhe raped TOP its not even close. his only lost is actually a bad decision although he has a larger supply.


Added on May 3, 2011, 6:35 pmhe raped TOP its not even close. his only lost is actually a bad decision although he has a larger supply.


Added on May 3, 2011, 6:58 pmwatch SC vs Losira on Terminus reminds me of MKP vs Kyrix on shakuras. pure Mass marine vs baneling roach infestor.

SC won. VERY VERY IMPRESSIVE GAME


Added on May 3, 2011, 7:10 pmGAME 2: SCFOU is the new marine king prime. he bunker rushed with about 10 scv vs losira's hatch 1st. bunker rush SUCCESSFUL. SCFOU is officially the new Marine King Prime.


Added on May 3, 2011, 7:30 pmzergs, feel free to QQ. SCFOU has S Class TvZ. nicely exploit all the weakness of zerg and map.

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post May 3 2011, 07:33 PM

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He made tonnes of mistakes in game 3. Not paying attention to his units and sieging up late. Anyway far superior economy bails him out.

Pretty nice series though.
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post May 3 2011, 08:01 PM

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its like watching a TvZ porn
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 3 2011, 08:01 PM)
its like watching a TvZ porn
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rclxms.gif Losira have no chance to dance its zergling oso

nvr really thought SC can go through so easily...

Nada is 1 class above TOP, fully deserved his semi final spot after so many season finish in quarter final
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post May 4 2011, 05:18 PM

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2 code A terran with S class TvT match up clashing soon.

fun fact, both of them sucks in TvP and TvZ lol
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post May 4 2011, 05:18 PM

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Not true, Bomber has good TvZ. LosirA never stood a chance against him everytime they meet. JulyZerg is afraid of his teammate more than MVP who doesn't know how to defend Blings bust.

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post May 4 2011, 05:32 PM

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BC vs GHOST <3
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Battle of Cockyness.

Both of them really doh.gif
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post May 4 2011, 05:39 PM

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Ryung is moderate, ST_Bomber is well known for his cockiness on par with LosirA and MC.
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post May 4 2011, 05:48 PM

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Bomber is cocky. Losira was cocky until he lost on lost temple last time. haha
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post May 4 2011, 05:50 PM

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Luckily Nestea and MVP managed to bail him out that time. If not he is surely the culprit of IM not winning the first GSTL. Silly Zerglings dance.
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post May 4 2011, 06:08 PM

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bomber again, another big come back.


Added on May 4, 2011, 6:10 pmwell, losira is still a kid la lol, MVP and Nestea are the big bros to wipe his ass.

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Now we have IMMVP who have a 20-2 record against Terran lulz
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post May 4 2011, 07:05 PM

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or if you put it in another way, he 4-0ed the 2nd best terran in GSL final and 4-2ed the same terran in WC 2 months later.


Added on May 4, 2011, 7:22 pmOMG....who is this guy


Added on May 4, 2011, 7:31 pmOMG........how did MVP know the medivac is coming O.O its mindblowing. MINDBLOWING.

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I expect MVP and Bomber to drop mules infront of each other like non stop?
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post May 4 2011, 09:37 PM

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lol, i dont think bomber has the chance. but then bomber should be able to give a good fight.

definitely more interesting than Byun vs TOP
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post May 5 2011, 05:51 PM

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So Inca cannon rushed in PvP again. Like anyone was surprised.
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T v T is boring to watch
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post May 5 2011, 06:10 PM

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inca is the cheese king of code S. sangho is stupid enuf not to beware of it, not to follow any probe that come in.


Added on May 5, 2011, 6:18 pmOOOOOOOMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGG


Added on May 5, 2011, 6:19 pmcoolest strategy EVERRRR NESTEA FOR PRESIDENT

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nestea, nerdgasm from u <3
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Zerg is the new Protoss!!
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Epic strategy. Now i will never get to forge expand anymore sad.gif
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post May 5 2011, 06:26 PM

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this is fukken epic
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I bet anypro never see such shit before in his life that his probe was frozen not mining or following each other
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post May 5 2011, 06:57 PM

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Pheonix > hydra.

even if theres 20 hydra, 15 pheonix is enuf.
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Phoenix vs spine crawler... cool
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food for thought.

Nestea lost 1 game which protoss finally can get his ball of units.

game 1 and 2 nestea want to end the game b4 protoss starts producing unit.

game 2 and 4, nestea did 10 pool 18 hatch. (interesting) last time early pool is quite popular in NA for the fast queen, stats say that its economically 2nd best (just lower than 15 hatch) but you can make lings!! in case protoss go for early agression and you can chase away the blocking probe.

b4 this, no KR zerg had did this b4, idra oso nvr did this b4. nestea is the 1st one.

and game 4, nestea did 31 gas, its very similar to spanishiwa build, 3 hatch only get gas.


Added on May 5, 2011, 7:15 pmnestea actually used 2 foreigner strats! this nvr happened in BW.


Added on May 5, 2011, 7:16 pmand what i can foresee is, KR players will finally start to accept these strats because their dai lou oso use adi.

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Very good game of PvZ we have seen today.

In fact one of the very best match up for a long time already without the QQ of protoss OP.

With the next patch uprising, it's going to be even harder already to do things like forge expand but we certainly will see more tech built from protoss already.

Anyway, game 1 at whatever the map name was is epic. The ladder sure suddenly exploded with spine crawler.
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 5 2011, 06:57 PM)
Pheonix > hydra.

even if theres 20 hydra, 15 pheonix is enuf.
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phoenix are better when u get them to critical mass ie 1 lift 1 shot...
thus double stargate is needed...
i love 2gate stargate FE for PvZ as nexus first now jz die to zerg allins on most maps =(

as for the early pool, its getting popular cause it is that good...
u dun need to worry much bout getting pylon block in ur natural and allowing u to tech faster...
most ppl recommend gas trick + early pool recently...


Added on May 5, 2011, 7:31 pm
QUOTE(Azurues @ May 5 2011, 07:23 PM)
Very good game of PvZ we have seen today.

In fact one of the very best match up for a long time already without the QQ of protoss OP.

With the next patch uprising, it's going to be even harder already to do things like forge expand but we certainly will see more tech built from protoss already.

Anyway, game 1 at whatever the map name was is epic. The ladder sure suddenly exploded with spine crawler.
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in the older days, ppl use to do the hatch trick into queen into spine rush...
tat was ntg compared to this as this is so much safer and well timed...

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ntg compared to this.
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code A finals later !
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post May 6 2011, 02:22 PM

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So MVP will become the first three time champion in GSL? Overtaking MC.
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ May 6 2011, 02:22 PM)
So MVP will become the first three time champion in GSL? Overtaking MC.
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codeA, doesnt count imho
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Plenty of chances with the upcoming superleague, world championship for either MC, or MVP and possibly even NesTea to increase their championship count.

SC2 is getting bigger and bigger everyday
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post May 6 2011, 03:40 PM

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code A champion is for lulz. losira and TOP both are code A champion, ask them go win MC 1st.
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TvT ftw. I'll take it anytime over ZvZ or PvP.
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BomBer is so so so sick!!
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QUOTE(westley0214 @ May 6 2011, 05:50 PM)
TvT ftw. I'll take it anytime over ZvZ or PvP.
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I wont watch PvP or ZvZ even it is GSL final but I like PvZ very much... But TvT is my favourite bcos it involve a lot of TANKS and tactically positioning, like those real war.
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bomber is pressing mvp this series. he plays like mvp is the underdog.
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Damn now I know why Ryung the TvT specialist and MMA lost to this guy. He is a class above.

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Bomber outclass IMMVP somehow.

Outmacro, out upgrade, out strategize...hmmm??
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 6 2011, 06:47 PM)
Bomber outclass IMMVP somehow.

Outmacro, out upgrade, out strategize...hmmm??
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Bottom line is MVP just got BOMBED!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Oh no once again we have TvTvTvTvTvTvTvTvT in group G and H. I must say MVP has wiser pick. Rain and Rainbow are definitely easier meat compared to Lyn and Ensnare.

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Honestly I don't see how he can survive against MMA and MKP. Time to leave Korea HuK.
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really difficult for Huk to stay in code S...

He isn't playing very well against Terran at all in his streaming games, heck i didn't even see him win.
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errrrrr MKP have btr TvP than MVP (tvp is his weak spot)

and..........MMA crushed MC in GSTL ace match.

HuK? see you in code A next season. its already a big achievement to stay in Code S for 1 season.


Added on May 6, 2011, 8:00 pmhey, why they arnt having the nomination thing on a different day???? they did the nomination thing just now? or its computer generated.


Added on May 6, 2011, 8:01 pmand how can Lyn > rainbow -.-

rainbow tvt is quite good ok


Added on May 6, 2011, 8:02 pmryung cant come up. his TvP not good enuf to beat hongun and MC.


Added on May 6, 2011, 9:00 pmowh mixed up adi, the up and down matches were always computer generated. its the group stagee that has nomination day

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nobody watching? Lots of QQing of all-ins and cheese today
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 7 2011, 02:41 PM)
nobody watching? Lots of QQing of all-ins and cheese today
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SO MANY BANELINGS PREVAIL
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>9000 spines
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if Sc doesn't do huge damage at the first 5 minutes, he is basically dead after that.
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OOOMMMGGGG!!!! one of the best game EVER!!!!

nestea gave us such a good game
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game 5 = best TvP ever in GSL/sc2 MATCH!!
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SOO OCLLLOOOSEEEE, good game sc
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If that was the final, it was pretty awesome haha

Super ultra close game. The mutalisk played a huge role in winning the game.

NesTea play with muta is nerd-gasm
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best comeback in sc2 ever?
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not the best comeback (i rmb a couple epic comebacks back then)

but DEFINITELY gave us the most nerd chills since GSL 1 FD's champion run. where zergs are the underdog, everyone are putting their hope in their hero and he did it.


Added on May 7, 2011, 11:47 pmnestea 4-1 inca like GSL 3 MC 4-1 cheeser rain.


Added on May 7, 2011, 11:47 pmnestea 4-1 inca like GSL 3 MC 4-1 cheeser rain.

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4-1?
i think 4-2
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Mayb Inca can play better against Zerg player?

To be honest, i don't think we even get to see 50% of Nada today. He was heck poor today and to think that his own teammate to play macro style with him is quite surprising.

Every game Nada goes for econ built, only in game 3 he was fortunate to scout the stargate or he should be dead early too. Then he made greedy mistakes by trying to snipe the 3rd nexus.

Now up/down match, i hope Jinro and Huk either 1 still can stay in GSL code S or i will be disappointed.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 7 2011, 11:52 PM)
Mayb Inca can play better against Zerg player?

To be honest, i don't think we even get to see 50% of Nada today. He was heck poor today and to think that his own teammate to play macro style with him is quite surprising.

Every game Nada goes for econ built, only in game 3 he was fortunate to scout the stargate or he should be dead early too. Then he made greedy mistakes by trying to snipe the 3rd nexus.

Now up/down match, i hope Jinro and Huk either 1 still can stay in GSL code S or i will be disappointed.
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inca is very good in cheesing. very inspiring. unlike bitbybitprime. rain's cheese are very high quality too lol. 3 hellion 2 scv drop.
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inca is very good in cheesing. very inspiring. unlike bitbybitprime. rain's cheese are very high quality too lol. 3 hellion 2 scv drop.
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he is good in making builds specific to maps...
his PvP showed so many possible build combination...
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he is good in making builds specific to maps...
his PvP showed so many possible build combination...
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Added on May 9, 2011, 7:56 pmjinro's death match...if he win zenio in xelnaga, he stays in code S. if not, see you in code A.

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jinro is in code A...now Code S is officially korean-only lol

m....well, theres liquid huk but......MKP and MMA...lol, well now we can assume Code S is korean only lol
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i hate alive's playstyle sad.gif its this kind of 'committed into attack' playstyle that make me lose sooooo many games in ladder. they just make a bunch of unit in 1 base and push out to punish the faster expanding opponent, make enuf dmg then get a 2nd base, start to get a 2 base all in army to punish the faster expanding 3 base opponent....my playstyle is more like byuns lol.......FE into defensive position but many times will lose to all in opponents....because theres this timing window when you havent rip your fruit from the FE...
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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 10 2011, 05:54 PM)
i hate alive's playstyle sad.gif its this kind of 'committed into attack' playstyle that make me lose sooooo many games in ladder. they just make a bunch of unit in 1 base and push out to punish the faster expanding opponent, make enuf dmg then get a 2nd base, start to get a 2 base all in army to punish the faster expanding 3 base opponent....my playstyle is more like byuns lol.......FE into defensive position but many times will lose to all in opponents....because theres this timing window when you havent rip your fruit from the FE...
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im happy for him!!! im always rooting for this kind of player haha. alive should stay in code A haha *evil face*


Added on May 10, 2011, 6:07 pmp/s he eliminated slayers boxer, probably everyone in korea hates him anyway haha


Added on May 10, 2011, 6:09 pmalive is 20 scv down??? and alive have a larger army. meh, why blizzard made the mineral collection diminishing returns, some players will just put 24 scv per base and dont produce scv anymore....

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 10 2011, 05:54 PM)
i hate alive's playstyle sad.gif its this kind of 'committed into attack' playstyle that make me lose sooooo many games in ladder. they just make a bunch of unit in 1 base and push out to punish the faster expanding opponent, make enuf dmg then get a 2nd base, start to get a 2 base all in army to punish the faster expanding 3 base opponent....my playstyle is more like byuns lol.......FE into defensive position but many times will lose to all in opponents....because theres this timing window when you havent rip your fruit from the FE...
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ii would say whitera deserve to loose...
u didnt realize whitera been cutting lots of corner to beat MC doing the same build over and over again in all 5 games?
skipping the first zeal in the past 4 games which MC notice and realize a proxy gate would beat whitera...
MC deserve the win for noticing such detail...
he did wut he must to win and whitera gotta blame for a late scout (scouting after gate), not scouting around his base with such a late scout and then nt knowing the map while skipping the first zeal...

then wut u wanna say bout boxer's 3 bunker rush in a row?
cheesing etc is fine dude...
its to punish players who cut corners to gain a early lead...
there's no such thing is "dun atk me first, i have ntg but i will have an explosive army soon"
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yeah sad.gif


Added on May 10, 2011, 6:17 pmit actually takes more skill to be defensive with minimal amount of units, as day9 had said so many times.

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Added on May 10, 2011, 6:36 pmwestley is alive type player? biggrin.gif

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Added on May 10, 2011, 7:51 pmryung lost to warpgate voidray. is it me only or there are too many warpgate voidray all in in PvT recently. Nada lost to this, Slayers Alicia did this so many times...MC voidray thorzain recently too (but lost lol), MC did that against MKP last season on crevasse

but its abit too much lol..


Added on May 10, 2011, 7:56 pmMC = master of ceremony LOL OUT LOUD


Added on May 10, 2011, 8:32 pmryung, he can only play in Code A because there are protoss and zergs in code S.

maybe if he gets top 2, next season he can choose 2 terrans in up and down.

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QUOTE(SiewKaiz @ May 9 2011, 04:50 PM)
but with good placement tanks > immortal
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 9 2011, 05:36 PM)
more like maps like scrap station, crossfire which make tanks very good...
thus u need units with big range like colossus though there are hgih chances u will loose all ur colossus (especially wit vikings and EMP) but its the only way to break through tank lines (no dun tell me mothership/ carriers off 2 base)
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ May 10 2011, 11:10 PM)
proven even on crossfire, tank is getting pawn... tank is sux against toss
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it is ryung mistake u knw...
all the tanks are clumped and nt enuff bunkers/ depot (not to mention pushing in too slow)...
u can listen to what actually happen...

if u say tank are sux then u dun see pros using tanks rite?
why they wanna use a shitty build tat toss can jz roll over...
they use it cause it is that good especially on some map...

dun just because of 1 game which the better player won obviously u say that a build is bad...
wut more a 1 base terran vs a 2 base toss where the 1 base terran took soooooooo long to push in...
there are factors for the lost, its nt the tanks...
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ May 10 2011, 11:10 PM)
proven even on crossfire, tank is getting pawn... tank is sux against toss
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did u see how many immortals n zealot were dead soaking the tank dmg?? u try imagine if P n T were on 2/3 base par
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Ryung have 6~7tanks firing together. To be fair, this kind of amount of tanks with marine and bunker in front can basically wipe out the entire zerg army in that timing. Tanks are powerful no doubt but the cooldown is too slow. I like Ryung positioning and micro. Bunker with marine, banshee doing damage invisibly and powerful tank behind bunker that clump up together to produce greater splash.Protoss dont really have a unit doing splash damage that time to the tanks, so is ok to clumped up. I dont really find any weakness there. Maybe the number of Marine is nt that much.
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Ryung have 6~7tanks firing together. To be fair, this kind of amount of tanks with marine and bunker in front can basically wipe out the entire zerg army in that timing. Tanks are powerful no doubt but the cooldown is too slow. I like Ryung positioning and micro. Bunker with marine, banshee doing damage invisibly and powerful tank behind bunker that clump up together to produce greater splash.Protoss dont really have a unit doing splash damage that time to the tanks, so is ok to clumped up. I dont really find any weakness there. Maybe the number of Marine is nt that much.
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u dun realize why is the clump up tanks bad?
it allow the immortals to close it so much faster to all the tanks thus easier to focus fire...
and ur marines need to be much further in front thus dying to the zeal faster...
not to mention the shorter distance for uncharge zeal to walk up to the tanks after tanks after tanks...
even artosis said, ryung pushed in too slow and lack things between this tanks and MC's army...
not to mention letting MC stall tat much on 2 base vs his 1 base allin lawl

u dun see me going terran OP when MC lost to polt...
MC lost cause of his play...
likewise the same for ryung...
game2 u can see how superior MC is compared to Ryung in terms of unit control...
the first major drop by ryung coulda ended the game if he control better (and not suiciding his raven lol)

and i dun see why u bring in zerg to the discussion LOL...
toss units are beefier than zerg units while zergs will overrun...
there would be enuff lings/ blings to reach the marines and mutas to cleanup the rest...

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u dun realize why is the clump up tanks bad?
it allow the immortals to close it so much faster to all the tanks thus easier to focus fire...
and ur marines need to be much further in front thus dying to the zeal faster...
not to mention the shorter distance for uncharge zeal to walk up to the tanks after tanks after tanks...
even artosis said, ryung pushed in too slow and lack things between this tanks and MC's army...
not to mention letting MC stall tat much on 2 base vs his 1 base allin lawl

u dun see me going terran OP when MC lost to polt...
MC lost cause of his play...
likewise the same for ryung...
game2 u can see how superior MC is compared to Ryung in terms of unit control...
the first major drop by ryung coulda ended the game if he control better (and not suiciding his raven lol)

and i dun see why u bring in zerg to the discussion LOL...
toss units are beefier than zerg units while zergs will overrun...
there would be enuff lings/ blings to reach the marines and mutas to cleanup the rest...
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becoz ryung use UP terran
protoss is OP enuff say
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 11 2011, 11:25 AM)
u dun realize why is the clump up tanks bad?
it allow the immortals to close it so much faster to all the tanks thus easier to focus fire...
and ur marines need to be much further in front thus dying to the zeal faster...
not to mention the shorter distance for uncharge zeal to walk up to the tanks after tanks after tanks...
even artosis said, ryung pushed in too slow and lack things between this tanks and MC's army...
not to mention letting MC stall tat much on 2 base vs his 1 base allin lawl

u dun see me going terran OP when MC lost to polt...
MC lost cause of his play...
likewise the same for ryung...
game2 u can see how superior MC is compared to Ryung in terms of unit control...
the first major drop by ryung coulda ended the game if he control better (and not suiciding his raven lol)

and i dun see why u bring in zerg to the discussion LOL...
toss units are beefier than zerg units while zergs will overrun...
there would be enuff lings/ blings to reach the marines and mutas to cleanup the rest...
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I'm doin your way only, u always quote what ppl say earlier then use a pro match to show example. I just mean Tanks is really not that proper against Toss, ... Is normal ok.. The same case as BW I reckon, Terran barrack unit has got no way to fight against Protoss gateway. Just accept it, go for mech only when vs Protoss. Here in SC2, mech army is not suitable to play against new unit Immortal at least in the early game where it is really matter in sc2

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QUOTE(jeffvip @ May 11 2011, 12:30 PM)
GSL start so early... cool... The comeback of MMA against MKP in game1, that is always how I loss in TvT... my biggest idol now, MMA


Added on May 11, 2011, 12:38 pm

I'm doin your way only, u always quote what ppl say earlier then use a pro match to show example. I just mean Tanks is really not that proper against Toss, ... Is normal ok.. The same case as BW I reckon, Terran barrack unit has got no way to fight against Protoss gateway. Just accept it, go for mech only when vs Protoss. Here in SC2, mech army is not suitable to play against new unit Immortal at least in the early game where it is really matter in sc2
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tell that to thorzain that mech is bad...
oh wait he is in TSL3 final using mech!!!
i tell u what, dun make marines cause colossus/ storm rape it since u say mech is bad since immortals deal lots of daamge to them...
heck dun make banshee since phoenix/ stalkers kill it...
seriously tat's a bad argument its like in MTG u ask not to play tarmogoyf jz because any removal can kill it and yet tarmogoyf became one of the costliest creature to ever be printed...

seriously, there's a big difference between builds and player...
dun just blame race/ build whenever a player loose...
watch the game and see how it play out...

as i said, if tank is sooooooo bad why are pros using it?

let me recap what happen in that game, MC went 2 base while Ryung stayed on 1 base for a long time...
unit lost wise, MC lost so much more (especially stalkers) but he was on 2 base thus he manage to keep up while keeping his immortals alive...
when MC got 5 immortals he move out...
when ryung reach MC, MC only had 1 immortal...
not to mention ryung nvr scan the orbs giving MC vision of his tanks for the immortals to snipe lol (clumped up so near tat the immortal's 5 range can reach all of the tanks from the low ground)....
its the player, not the build...
like how MC went quick nexus and die to polt...
does that mean that polt's 2 rax build is good, and 1 gate nexus is bad?
no, its cause MC play badly as tester pulled out the 1 gate nexus convincingly...


Added on May 11, 2011, 1:36 pmps: u say its my style to quote pro games to support arguments, i dun quote games where clearly 1 player outplay the other... game 2 alone showed the different control lvl between ryung and MC...

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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 11 2011, 01:32 PM)
seriously, there's a big difference between builds and player...
dun just blame race/ build whenever a player loose...
watch the game and see how it play out...

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when a player win/loose its always the race not the player <insert facepalm here>
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Ok.jpg. I know girls are fast changing species.
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both sentence means the same unless u cant see the sarcasm with the <facepalm> at the end of the 2nd quote
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Ok Ok I use tank, I use tank against Immortal next time


Added on May 11, 2011, 2:40 pmI love mech alot more than bio... the reason I play terran is bcos of mech and mech only. alot of ppl is qq bout terran bio but really,bio is no terran to me. Like I fu*king care how blizzard is gonna neft it. I love to see player going for mech against toss everytime, i m sick of MMM but the fact is that mech really is not that good against toss (means losing). I wish to see successful mech build in pro games, really but I really did not see that work out well is so many pro games. Maybe u can say Thorzain did it but not really not alot of Terran player able to 'mech' it out. I shld have stop it right now. Terran is OP as always. Tanks > Immortal. Thor > Collosus

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what's with the super ugly background atm?

Totally off topic already lol
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QUOTE(Azurues @ May 11 2011, 05:34 PM)
what's with the super ugly background atm?

Totally off topic already lol
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Honestly I can't really understand how did Rainbow got to the first GSL final. He plays like a noob recently.
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MMA another TvT season. wat happen to him???


Added on May 11, 2011, 6:42 pmthe background is awful and facepalm, westley love to quote ppl to backstab more.


Added on May 11, 2011, 6:53 pmomg how can bomber be so good in TvT. perfect siege and unsiege move out, expansions droppings everything....his tvt is so matured.

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Ok now I'm sure I can defend Banshees better than those "pro-gamers". Terrible games so far.

If you see Mutas or Banshees then only start building E-bay you are basically dead anyway. Save the hassle of building that E-bay.

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LYN MMA RAINBOW THEWIND for Code A

wow........
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The wind shld be in codeA. Terrible attitude player. just feel abit sad MMA is totally not him today. He maybe gt the reputation of last player defeated by 4 gate
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ May 11 2011, 09:51 PM)
The wind shld be in codeA. Terrible attitude player.
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how terrible is he?
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he gave the game away during CodeS group match to Supernova... for the sake of MC and Supernova both advancing. This is a professional scene, this kind of issue shldnt come up.
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owh well, its the best thing he can do and he will probably lose to supernova anyway, might as well just lose right away to conserve supernovas energy. Its the same in all sport scene. At least its btr than football, where all results of epl were set b4 game brcause of gambling.
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QUOTE(jeffvip @ May 12 2011, 08:10 AM)
he gave the game away during CodeS group match to Supernova... for the sake of MC and Supernova both advancing. This is a professional scene, this kind of issue shldnt come up.
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i dun think he gave the game away vs supernova...........
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to the MC haters, would u hate Nestea too?

- Nestea, you will be the first zerg in 2 finals.
(Nestea) – I am a bit worried. I am not sure if Inca can matchup to my level of play… I think he may be an opponent too easy for the finals. I guess I can just think my finals already happened against sC.
- You will be playing after the 1.3.3 patch.
(Nestea) – I have been practicing on the North American server with the new patch, so I am not that worried. I don’t think the zerg vs protoss matchup has changed that much with the new patch. The sentry is faster to come out now, but the warp gate tech is slower so zerg may have a bit of an easier time in the early game. Protoss is good race in the late game, but since Inca is such a weak player, it probably won’t matter.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessag...topic_id=222450
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what he speak is the truth. so glad sc didnt make it trough. if not this gsl final is totally un-watchable. Nestea is always been a nice guy.
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when MC said the same bout Rain every1 said MC was BM...
when Nestea said the same bout inca every1 said nestea is a nice guy, he is ok... he speak the truth...

^ cant brain this
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LOL.

anyway, nestea vs inca is like MC vs rain lol....

MC also say inca sure lose.

anyway SC is a really tough opponent, he deserves to be in the final instead of inca.
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QUOTE(evofantasy @ May 13 2011, 03:37 PM)
when MC said the same bout Rain every1 said MC was BM...
when Nestea said the same bout inca every1 said nestea is a nice guy, he is ok... he speak the truth...

^ cant brain this
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haha... this situation did not just surface during just in 1 interview. MC have always BM others and praise himself all the while, Nestea, is kinda famous for QQ and humble. Is normal for ppl to accept and understand this kind of comment from Nestea.

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yeah! another finals without terran!

anyway, fun fact:
inca had a clean sheet in ro16 ro8 ro4, only dropping 1 set in ro32.
inca is having 0-4 in PvZ but MC is giving him tuition
nestea is having a fearsome 13-3 (over 80%) in ZvP, the broken matchup.

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actually inca's lost is due to 3 6pools LOL...
i gonna see wut is his 'inca rule' for nestea
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inca is cheesing. so surprising.


Added on May 14, 2011, 2:47 pmno, wait...lol, i tot i saw 6 probe scout lol


Added on May 14, 2011, 2:52 pmnestea raped inca

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post May 14 2011, 03:12 PM

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zerg imba!


Added on May 14, 2011, 3:33 pmseriously, blizzard must do something to nerf zerg.. too imba already

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TSquest_5692
post May 14 2011, 03:33 PM

yo chick, im not buaya
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when everyone is QQ-ing marine marauder or 4 gate 4 gate...

nestea 3-0 with ONLY zerglings and roaches....all in all in all in owh~


Added on May 14, 2011, 4:07 pm4-0 how unsurprising sad.gif

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post May 14 2011, 04:10 PM

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nestea just thrash inca like nobody business @@
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post May 14 2011, 04:26 PM

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just come back. the 1st thing i saw is nestea kissing the trophy. haiz. 4-0. not deserve to watch anyway.
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post May 14 2011, 05:08 PM

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inca played badly, game 4 he coulda won if he jz turtle and nt sac half of my stalkers
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post May 14 2011, 05:13 PM

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1000 base into 1000 muta into 1000 banelings lol

if inca win then really toss op adi. hmmm....MC says that if its him playing, he will be able to sapu nestea.
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post May 14 2011, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 14 2011, 05:13 PM)
1000 base into 1000 muta into 1000 banelings lol

if inca win then really toss op adi. hmmm....MC says that if its him playing, he will be able to sapu nestea.
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depends cause inca what he needed to beat the muta compo - blinks and archons...
even the 3rd game he had a good chance if nt for the ling runby (why are zergs nt doing this more?)
1st game was jz greedy by inca which cost him the game...
2nd game i didnt watch lol
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post May 14 2011, 05:35 PM

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inca is terribad. i bet it will be wayyyy different if its MC in front of the comp.
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post May 15 2011, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(quest_5692 @ May 14 2011, 05:35 PM)
inca is terribad. i bet it will be wayyyy different if its MC in front of the comp.
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Then we will see MC won! For sure, MC PVZ are fearsome!

 

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