Bout at end of 2009, RM430 or RM440.. can't remember..

AF-S, VR, element construction --> improved IQ.

The VR and VRII beats 80200 in all aspects except price.

It is like comparing Proton Saga and Proton Inspira?

Nah, Inspira to Evo X is Tamron/Sigma 70200 against the 70200 VRII .

Saga and Inspira cause its different generations mah~

Should be the 70-210, judging from the vignetting and background compression.

LOL, aiseh, thought it was an old lens with crappy vignetting ~_~

Its still vignetting ho ho ho~ good/better/'perfect'? have less or non vignetting .

About time you try out more new lens before commenting that old lens have better bokeh.

Pixel density plays a part here. 18200 is acceptable on 12MP DX sensor (D90/D300). This is the 12MP FX which is lesser pixel density.

However if you were to use 18200 on a D7000 (16MP DX sensor), the photo looks soft mainly due to the glass not capable of resolving the details.

When I was using D90 back then, this is how I see the rule of third..



The AF points on 4 corners, top left top right bottom left and bottom right. If you draw a line they are 1/3

B+W 77mm XS-Pro cause the gold fonts suits the gold ring?

I have both, so far I don't see or notice any differences.

Like I said, gold font + gold ring --> 10% IQ improvement! Ho ho ho~ Okay just kidding.

Oh well, for that kinda deal I would go for new B+W instead.

77mm HD x2, 77mm XS-Pro x1, 50mm HMC .

Oh got another 77mm CPL HD

RM3800 lens, its not cheap! Use a good filter man. RM250 versus like RM170 right? How many % of the lens value only?

I bought mine at RM3950, got it last year just after it was launched not long. Bliz got his for RM3800.

The expensive B+W and so called the best is the XS-Pro line up. I don't see that in the review.

I don't see the XS-Pro in that review, too early to conclude.

I would look at B+W and Hoya. Zeiss no experience, Heliopan from review not too good... Rodenstock haven't seen them around here before.

I have both the Hoya HD and XS-Pro. The ring doesn't feel different to me in terms of rigidness. Both are 77mm size.

The HMC is a 50mm thread on my 50mm f/1.8D lens. My 77mm thread are all on my other lens... and only the 1635 is using XS-Pro, other 2 is on Hoya HD.

Yeap, 70200 and 85 is on Hoya HD. Basically I don't notice any differences between the B+W or HD.

It feels slower than my already slow 85G ._.

To be frank I have not compared them side by side. The 85mm f/1.4D isn't exactly fast either for me. But reading up online reviews, using lower end bodies the 85G is slower than 85D. But on higher end bodies (D3), the 85G is faster.

But one thing for sure, the 85G is more accurate and hunts lesser in low light.

Then again, I've used 85G to shoot under low light event before on my D90! Why I mentioned the 85G being slow is for tele range my other lens is a 70200 VR2, that is blazing fast focusing as compared to 85G.

For screw drive, its more of the mechanism since in your case both on the same body. Body plays a part if lens is the same, the D3 focuses faster than a D90 on same lens. (Obviously, but I guess its good to let people who doesn't know this piece of info).

50 f/1.4G focuses slower, but more accurate.

The 85G focuses faster than 105VR at least from my short experience with the 105VR borrow from friend one

85G is slowwww for me. Its even slower than my 1635 f/4 VR ._. Its a prime afterall.

A few factors...

1. Lens front/back focus. This will affect every shot you take.
2. Body front/back focus. Same, affects every shot you take too.
3. Focusing accuracy (lens/body). Nicely lit and low light area will yield different success rate of the AF. You tend to OOF more frequently shooting in low light than in a nicely lit condition
4. Focusing technique.

Yes! Comparing with my other lens, this 85G is really slow in AF.

Then again, this 85G slow focusing is pretty famous.. of course not as slow as the 85L