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 Mitsubishi asx, This car doesnt seem to be popular here.

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post Apr 19 2011, 02:39 PM

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Got my asx last dec. Choose asx because i get the car in langkawi. The car just cost rm73k here. IMO the car is good for me, got the power when i needed (before this only drive wira), great interior and the front seat really comfortable (i think this car good for couple only). Summore got 2 yrs free maintainance is the plus point for me. FYI , in langkawi there alot Mitsubishi car coz the price different between here and mainland really more compare to other brand like T and H.
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post Apr 19 2011, 10:42 PM

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Dun forget to slap in a good 18" wheels with Michellin PS3 or even Yoko S Drive tyres!!!
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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 18 2011, 11:13 PM)
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Diesel is for everyone even if they hardly travel. It is cheap to run (diesel is RM 1.80/L and has better mileage), cheap to maintain (just make sure battery and starter ok) and cheap everything (don't even need to fix minor dents).

Face it, petrol is for people with loads of cash to burn by paying high fuel cost, spend more on electronics (stupid sensors, ECUs, wiring & crap) and pay more for something else. Yes, u save on road tax but come one... it is only once a year affair! Don't tell me u need to budget for paying RM 90 (1500cc) or RM 382 road tax (2000cc)? Diesel road tax is RM 831 for 2500cc which u recover back in less than 6 months from diesel fuel and mileage.

A friend of mine who only used his Triton to work and home, only need to pump every 2 weeks of RM 110 full tank. That is RM 220 per month! Compared to his previous ride, RM 400 per month! Service interval for diesel is every 10000km and can use cheap mono-grade engine oil such as Castrol CRB Turbo. If u have extra money, opt for something better.

Why do u think 70% of Europe used diesel engines? Even in Thailand, at least 50% of new cars / trucks are diesel powered.
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At the most you are right bro,but these Common-rail diesel nowdays are also equipped with ECU and loads of sensors like Petrol engines,but it's reliability still like old times,most of Diesel's can sail through 200K Kms and still going strong but the only important thing is it's Engine Oil,it just like the "blood" in out body,for Malaysia diesel quality and if the engine have turbo,it is recommended to change between 3-5K Kms....and if your engine does have Turbo please dun use those cipplak Engine Oil,the most expensive oil just cost u about 0.5K for 4 L but 1 VGT Turbocharger for Triton,Hilux or so is costing u few K's ,so which one u choose to pay? But CRB Turbo is a quite good choice for Diesel with Turbo wink.gif

But if for 4x4 i would go for Diesel because it have no spark-plug,even u immerse the whole engine into water with the air-filter out of the water,the engine will still runs,can u do this with petrol engine? haha brows.gif
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how's petronas urania for diesel engines?


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post Apr 20 2011, 01:00 AM

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What the ASX lacks is probably a turbo (keep thinking of the Airtrek). brows.gif

Anyway, cars like ASX, CRV, Forester are more for urban folks who need something bigger than a regular sedan
but not as large as a normal 4x4. An occasional need to carry more stuff and the ease of loading/unloading.
The choice of petrol / diesel is dependent on what's available.

Some might argue that for the same amount of money, there are better choices but different people have different
needs. I'm sure a normal 4X4 isn't going to turn as well as a compact SUV and when you try loading / unloading
stuff, it's going to be more difficult on the taller vehicle. There are pros and cons to each design, consumers will
just make their choice based on individual needs. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 20 2011, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Wilson13B @ Apr 19 2011, 11:06 PM)
At the most you are right bro,but these Common-rail diesel nowdays are also equipped with ECU and loads of sensors like Petrol engines,but it's reliability still like old times,most of Diesel's can sail through 200K Kms and still going strong but the only important thing is it's Engine Oil,it just like the "blood" in out body,for Malaysia diesel quality and if the engine have turbo,it is recommended to change between 3-5K Kms....and if your engine does have Turbo please dun use those cipplak Engine Oil,the most expensive oil just cost u about 0.5K for 4 L but 1 VGT Turbocharger for Triton,Hilux or so is costing u few K's ,so which one u choose to pay? But CRB Turbo is a quite good choice for Diesel with Turbo  wink.gif

But if for 4x4 i would go for Diesel because it have no spark-plug,even u immerse the whole engine into water with the air-filter out of the water,the engine will still runs,can u do this with petrol engine? haha  brows.gif
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Well, unlike petrol engines... the sensors and ECU for diesel engines are reliable... after all, they are built for work! And diesel engines don't need electrical support to work (no spark plug, coil plug, igniter, power unit, distributor and etc).

The current Euro2M diesel is ok for most common rail engines... so, no worries. I have tried Thai Euro4 diesel back in Feb and of course it is way better but at higher cost (RM 3.10/L). And since diesel is for industrial use, the G cannot simply increase diesel price. If they do, everything will go up by 50% over night!

I have used Castrol CRB Turbo for my Renault Kangoo 1.5DCi (also common rail) for almost a year now... very good and gives good mileage and cost less than RM 80 for 4L. Will be using the same oil for my Triton and Navara after warranty period. And I always change oil every 10k and sometimes 7k depending on distance covered.

The perception with diesel engines here in MY is it is noisy, no power, smoky and it chatters. But, with more than 350nm of torque, who cares? U get both power and economy at the same time. With fuel controller such as Vector, u gain 30% more power... enough to tailgate an E46 325 on highways and still can jump over speed humps at 50kph.


Added on April 20, 2011, 1:11 am
QUOTE(Alpha700 @ Apr 20 2011, 01:00 AM)
What the ASX lacks is probably a turbo (keep thinking of the Airtrek).  brows.gif

Anyway, cars like ASX, CRV, Forester are more for urban folks who need something bigger than a regular sedan
but not as large as a normal 4x4. An occasional need to carry more stuff and the ease of loading/unloading.
The choice of petrol / diesel is dependent on what's available.

Some might argue that for the same amount of money, there are better choices but different people have different
needs. I'm sure a normal 4X4 isn't going to turn as well as a compact SUV and when you try loading / unloading
stuff, it's going to be more difficult on the taller vehicle. There are pros and cons to each design, consumers will
just make their choice based on individual needs.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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IMO, I always go for long term... because I only change cars every 10 years. Why?

1. Roads in PJ and KL are bad - need a tough vehicle
2. Floods are common here (at least in Kota Damansara) - need a tall vehicle to cross over
3. Too many smash and grab thefts - need a robust vehicle
4. Petrol price very unstable (at least for RON 97) - need something cheap and economical

I chose the Triton because it has everything I want for less money. Can do more and better. Easier to upgrade and cheap to maintain. Accessories plenty to go around. Can park anywhere... even on curbs and unpaved roads.

This post has been edited by acbc: Apr 20 2011, 01:11 AM
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post Apr 20 2011, 01:35 AM

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in malaysia, roadtax for diesel is quite high bro...
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post Apr 20 2011, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(xshiro @ Apr 20 2011, 01:35 AM)
in malaysia, roadtax for diesel is quite high bro...
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Come on... RM 831 for 2500cc but u save on diesel and mileage. Petrol road tax is cheap but petrol itself will go up. Plus, it is a a yearly affair. U only need to budget once.

Take example... for diesel, to cover 2500km... u pump RM 400 per month. For the same mileage on petrol, u pay RM 550 per month. That's a saving of RM 150 per month. Multiply by 12 months, u already save RM 1800 per year which is more than enough to cover the RM 831 road tax. Think long term and rationally.
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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Apr 19 2011, 10:42 PM)
Dun forget to slap in a good 18" wheels with Michellin PS3 or even Yoko S Drive tyres!!!
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should dbe 20inch more appropriate..hehe
20inch got 45series tyre profile??or highest is 40??
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post May 20 2011, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Alpha700 @ Apr 20 2011, 01:00 AM)
What the ASX lacks is probably a turbo (keep thinking of the Airtrek).  brows.gif

Anyway, cars like ASX, CRV, Forester are more for urban folks who need something bigger than a regular sedan
but not as large as a normal 4x4. An occasional need to carry more stuff and the ease of loading/unloading.
The choice of petrol / diesel is dependent on what's available.

Some might argue that for the same amount of money, there are better choices but different people have different
needs. I'm sure a normal 4X4 isn't going to turn as well as a compact SUV and when you try loading / unloading
stuff, it's going to be more difficult on the taller vehicle. There are pros and cons to each design, consumers will
just make their choice based on individual needs.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I checked out the ASX, the back space is sooooo limited! Can hardly even pack my golf bag into the boot. That was my main deterrent from getting it.
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post May 20 2011, 10:08 PM

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got my grey unit last april. didn't know there's a few asx owners here too

all things good, i just jelly those tucson owners who got 17" rubbers as standard

at 1st, oso jelly about the glass roof, but it doesn't make good sense to have glass roof in malaysia...

i need to seriously hack the kenwood HU:
1. remove the parking sensor so i can watch vids on the move (yes, i know one way is to raise the handbrake a litle bit, but it's not nice to see the red light come out at the dashboard)
2. bluetooth unit missing???

3. gps pun tak pasang. apara

anyone got BT and GPS standard with their DDX5036 units?
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post May 20 2011, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Velent @ Apr 19 2011, 02:39 PM)
Got my asx last dec. Choose asx because i get the car in langkawi. The car just cost rm73k here. IMO the car is good for me, got the power when i needed (before this only drive wira), great interior and the front seat really comfortable (i think this car good for couple only). Summore got 2 yrs free maintainance is the plus point for me. FYI , in langkawi there alot Mitsubishi car coz the price different between here and mainland really more compare to other brand like T and H.
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i got to langkawi last week & while on the way to langkawi cable car, i see a white ASX near a junction in pekan kuah.. maybe thats u biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Mavik @ May 20 2011, 05:39 PM)
I checked out the ASX, the back space is sooooo limited! Can hardly even pack my golf bag into the boot. That was my main deterrent from getting it.
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yes, the size is really really compact. but can't really complaint since i got this one just mainly for driving around. there's the tirton pickup for me to haul things and a small myvi to do the big groceries

the asx is fine for a 2nd car, bu not as a primary family mover. even the rear seat cannot seat 3 ppl comfortably
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Added on May 20, 2011, 10:20 pm
QUOTE(lucifah @ May 20 2011, 10:08 PM)
got my grey unit last april. didn't know there's a few asx owners here too

all things good, i just jelly those tucson owners who got 17" rubbers as standard

at 1st, oso jelly about the glass roof, but it doesn't make good sense to have glass roof in malaysia...

i need to seriously hack the kenwood HU:
1. remove the parking sensor so i can watch vids on the move (yes, i know one way is to raise the handbrake a litle bit, but it's not nice to see the red light come out at the dashboard)
2. bluetooth unit missing???

3. gps pun tak pasang. apara

anyone got BT and GPS standard with their DDX5036 units?
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how to hack the kenwood unit??can give some tips here??
another thing is u know the headlight projector is using what bulb??
H7 or H11??

This post has been edited by leds: May 20 2011, 10:21 PM
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just a few more info on the asx

i absolutely hates the INVECS III CVT trnasmission. it jerks, slow response and doesn't downshidt as qucikly as a normal auto tranny...

that is after some 1,000km, the INVECS learn and adapt ur driving style. now its more responsive and doesn't jerk as much. it does need to get some times to get used to. but don't expect to have quick acceleration like auto tranny. CVT was meant for FC, not acceleration or speed


the leather seats are actually HALF leather. that's right. only the upper top (the one that touchers your butt and skin) are leather. the rest (sides, back) are PVC. u've been warned


and i still jellly with the full spec ASX that other countries get.nvm the 4wd, bring in the 1.8 DI-D Mivec engine (actually our diesel quality is too bad for that engine)

full ASX feature that i jelly
1. electric seats
2. 17" standard wheels with series 60 rubbers
3. engine start / stop button and keyless fob
4. ASG - automatic start & go function
5. MMMC - mitsu mutli media console which can adjust a lot of the the car settings - like the auto folding mirror, a/c and such
6. sexy LED day light running lights (standard on ASX in Poland)


Added on May 20, 2011, 10:30 pm
QUOTE(leds @ May 20 2011, 10:17 PM)
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Added on May 20, 2011, 10:20 pm
how to hack the kenwood unit??can give some tips here??
another thing is u know the headlight projector is using what bulb??
H7 or H11??
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i dunno how to hack the kenwood HU. that's why i asked. LOL@

anyway, t watch videos while driving (which is dangerous), just raise the handbrake by 1-click and voila. the blank screen turns to video

the projector headlight (sadly, no xenon HID for msia models) are HB3 fr highlight, H11 for low beam and foglamps. these ar einfo from the manual

This post has been edited by lucifah: May 20 2011, 10:31 PM
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post May 21 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 20 2011, 10:08 PM)
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Need to take out the HU out and reconnect the parking sensor cable to ground. Not yet done mine, will do when i take my car back penang at the end of years ( wanna add a sub lile those sg asx )


QUOTE(mi-g @ May 20 2011, 10:12 PM)
i got to langkawi last week & while on the way to langkawi cable car, i see a white ASX near a junction in pekan kuah.. maybe thats u  biggrin.gif
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Mine is grey in colour. Langkawi many ASX but never see the Red before.

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QUOTE(Velent @ May 21 2011, 11:42 AM)
Need to take out the HU out and reconnect the parking sensor cable to ground. Not yet done mine, will do when i take my car back penang at the end of years ( wanna add a sub lile those sg asx )

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u must take photos of the whole process and email them to me. it's a waste if u can't let the kids watch something on the lcd screen when driving long distance. at least that's something that can keep them occupied



1 thing to add to prospective buyers: the rear seats DO NOT fall flat. it's more like 80deg rather than a full 90deg fold.


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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 20 2011, 10:26 PM)
just a few more info on the asx

i absolutely hates the INVECS III CVT trnasmission. it jerks, slow response and doesn't downshidt as qucikly as a normal auto tranny...

that is after some 1,000km, the INVECS learn and adapt ur driving style. now its more responsive and doesn't jerk as much. it does need to get some times to get used to. but don't expect to have quick acceleration like auto tranny. CVT was meant for FC, not acceleration or speed
the leather seats are actually HALF leather. that's right. only the upper top (the one that touchers your butt and skin) are leather. the rest (sides, back) are PVC. u've been warned
and i still jellly with the full spec ASX that other countries get.nvm the 4wd, bring in the 1.8 DI-D Mivec engine (actually our diesel quality is too bad for that engine)

full ASX feature that i jelly
1. electric seats
2. 17" standard wheels with series 60 rubbers
3. engine start / stop button and keyless fob
4. ASG - automatic start & go function
5. MMMC - mitsu mutli media console which can adjust a lot of the the car settings - like the auto folding mirror, a/c and such
6. sexy LED day light running lights (standard on ASX in Poland)


Added on May 20, 2011, 10:30 pm
i dunno how to hack the kenwood HU. that's why i asked. LOL@

anyway, t watch videos while driving (which is dangerous), just raise the handbrake by 1-click and voila. the blank screen turns to video

the projector headlight (sadly, no xenon HID for msia models) are HB3 fr highlight, H11 for low beam and foglamps. these ar einfo from the manual
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Got that....thx for the info regarding the bulb type...
Today go ask SA they said he also dont know how to setting the HU...
But just not saw Velent sharing only know...thx too will do that next week

The euro version ASX got DRL which come standard/optional accessory is very nice unfortunately asia version not available...
This is the second option...i think not bad lah...HI-POWER 5module DRL
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QUOTE(leds @ May 21 2011, 11:26 PM)
Got that....thx for the info regarding the bulb type...
Today go ask SA they said he also dont know how to setting the HU...
But just not saw Velent sharing only know...thx too will do that next week

The euro version ASX got DRL which come standard/optional accessory is very nice unfortunately asia version not available...
This is the second option...i think not bad lah...HI-POWER 5module DRL
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nice... but it's covering up the lower air vents. the passenger side air vents is used for the ATF cooler (for malaysia cars). the driver side is coverd with some sort of plastic. that's why we need the proper led DRL mounted on the side skirts (additional body kit)

btw, the one in the pic also comes with a headlight washer which is a nice feature not available on our local version


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post May 24 2011, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ May 23 2011, 10:45 PM)
nice... but it's covering up the lower air vents. the passenger side air vents is used for the ATF cooler (for malaysia cars). the driver side is coverd with some sort of plastic. that's why we need the proper led DRL mounted on the side skirts (additional body kit)

btw, the one in the pic also comes with a headlight washer which is a nice feature not available on our local version
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So any suggestion on the DRL place to install??
Just now call SA he also said the air vent better not to block it as its an air intake location

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