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 Mitsubishi asx, This car doesnt seem to be popular here.

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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 16 2011, 06:26 PM)
Overpriced and no AWD.
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exactly! i could have consider buying it if it was of 4wd transmission with the 2.4 sportsback engine.
sub 15xk bucks pricing should be fine.
settled for a d-max 3.0 manual instead which is more of a go anywhere workhorse.

btw, main reason less people buying the ask and sportsback?
just ask lancer owner. sooner or later, chances are proton may come out with their version of both car! tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Apr 17 2011, 03:50 PM)
exactly! i could have consider buying it if it was of 4wd transmission with the 2.4 sportsback engine.
sub 15xk bucks pricing should be fine.
settled for a d-max 3.0 manual instead which is more of a go anywhere workhorse.

btw, main reason less people buying the ask and sportsback?
just ask lancer owner. sooner or later, chances are proton may come out with their version of both car!  tongue.gif
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Why pay more for less? No AWD means the SUV is useless on flooded roads which is very common these days (heavy thunderstorm). And on top of that, it runs on petrol which more expensive than diesel but less powerful. For RM 150k, u can buy a Triton or Pajero Sports and load up RM 50k worth of useful accessories and performance upgrades. And even spare change for dyno test / tuning. Plus, it is cheap to run and cost less in the long run. Monthly installment also lower. Road tax is RM 831 per year but u already save lots from the diesel alone.

And, since the truck is very high... snatch thieves won't target it. U can bang the f***er off the road if needed too.
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If given a choice between peugeot 3008 and mitsu asx, which one would u guys choose? Add in ur reasons, pls.
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my friend went to see it at a show room last month...
sales person told him mostly females drive this car in duno which country haha.. 80% of them were females who drove asx..
i will ask him and let u guys know which country tongue.gif

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QUOTE(tomaslian @ Apr 17 2011, 09:08 PM)
If given a choice between peugeot 3008 and mitsu asx, which one would u guys choose? Add in ur reasons, pls.
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3008 of course... cheaper road tax (1600cc), better FC & superior 6-speed AT gearbox. And... traction control!


Added on April 18, 2011, 10:48 amThe ASX is a soccer mom's car in Japan...

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post Apr 18 2011, 11:00 AM

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How come a bigger car is given a smaller engine?

Lancer Sportback vs ASX.
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post Apr 18 2011, 11:07 AM

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Test drove both the 3008 and the ASX. Exterior design, the ASX looks much nicer than the weird angles of the 3008 but the interior and specs, 3008 wins hands down. The rear seats of the ASX is really uncomfortable as well.

The only turn-off for the 3008 is Naza and the 14 month waiting period.
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And the Exterior design you mentioned earlier.
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post Apr 18 2011, 11:34 AM

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No one add in Tuscon into the comparison?
In this price range, Tuscon should be able to give it a fight but the 3008 prince engine is tempting somehow.
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post Apr 18 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 17 2011, 07:34 PM)
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Why pay more for less? No AWD means the SUV is useless on flooded roads which is very common these days (heavy thunderstorm). And on top of that, it runs on petrol which more expensive than diesel but less powerful. For RM 150k, u can buy a Triton or Pajero Sports and load up RM 50k worth of useful accessories and performance upgrades. And even spare change for dyno test / tuning. Plus, it is cheap to run and cost less in the long run. Monthly installment also lower. Road tax is RM 831 per year but u already save lots from the diesel alone.

And, since the truck is very high... snatch thieves won't target it. U can bang the f***er off the road if needed too.
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Seriously dude, u really think u need all those 4wd features when d steepest gradient is usually d ramps at multi storey car parks? Also, d usual monsoon flood we have on our roads dun really require 4wd coz d road surface is still very much intact albeit under water n not theres current strong enuf to shift d vehicle off d route. D purpose of 4wd is for 4-wheel traction in conditions like snow, mud or loose gravel. Most local floods only need gd ground clearance.

Another point worth considering is d additional cost of 4wd features. Ur carrying around plenty of additional useless weight most of d time, pay more fuel to run them n more cost n effort to maintain d drivetrain.

D ASX was not designed as a heavy duty vehicle, but more of a softcore SUV like d SX4, Terrios/RAV4, Grand Vitara 2wd n d ol Kembara for urban travelling, a higher seating position, plus a very little bit of 'adventurous' DNA. D high price is mainly due to our crazy tax structure(CBU from Japan) so no point crying over it. If u hv driven it, u'll notice its more civilised n composed than some step-ladder framed vehicle (Pajero Sport, Everest, n Fortuner). Lastly hv u ever parked a vehicle d size of a Pajero Sport is a typical shopping mall car park? If u hv, ask ur self how many ppl are willing to go through tis daily?

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From d last test drive I had wit d ASX, my only n most serious complaint is d rather up-right rear seating position. Apart from all those, its ticks all d expected points of an urban light-SUV.
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I sat into ASX passenger seat, its so straight like kitchen chair!
if longer distance sure die one.
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QUOTE(peter_pj @ Apr 18 2011, 11:07 AM)
Test drove both the 3008 and the ASX. Exterior design, the ASX looks much nicer than the weird angles of the 3008 but the interior and specs, 3008 wins hands down. The rear seats of the ASX is really uncomfortable as well.

The only turn-off for the 3008 is Naza and the 14 month waiting period.
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walao 14 month waiting period?

by the time get car already >1 year doh.gif
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post Apr 18 2011, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Apr 18 2011, 02:06 PM)
Seriously dude, u really think u need all those 4wd features when d steepest gradient is usually d ramps at multi storey car parks? Also, d usual monsoon flood we have on our roads dun really require 4wd coz d road surface is still very much intact albeit under water n not theres current strong enuf to shift d vehicle off d route. D purpose of 4wd is for 4-wheel traction in conditions like snow, mud or loose gravel. Most local floods only need gd ground clearance.

Another point worth considering is d additional cost of 4wd features. Ur carrying around plenty of additional useless weight most of d time, pay more fuel to run them n more cost n effort to maintain d drivetrain. 

D ASX was not designed as a heavy duty vehicle, but more of a softcore SUV like d SX4, Terrios/RAV4, Grand Vitara 2wd n d ol Kembara for urban travelling, a higher seating position, plus a very little bit of 'adventurous' DNA. D high price is mainly due to our crazy tax structure(CBU from Japan) so no point crying over it. If u hv driven it, u'll notice its more civilised n composed than some step-ladder framed vehicle (Pajero Sport, Everest, n Fortuner). Lastly hv u ever parked a vehicle d size of a Pajero Sport is a typical shopping mall car park? If u hv, ask ur self how many ppl are willing to go through tis daily?

TS,
From d last test drive I had wit d ASX, my only n most serious complaint is d rather up-right rear seating position. Apart from all those, its ticks all d expected points of an urban light-SUV.
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I drive my Triton daily and park in the same place as anyone would... trust me, it is a lot easier to park a large vehicle in shopping complexes for as long clearance is 1.9m minimum. And for as long the reverse sensors are working, what is so difficult? Unless of course, your parking skill sucks big time! And it is safe (which snatch thief going to target a large truck?) and FC is marvelous... u try to find a car / truck which can give u 700km of mileage at RM 100 tankful pure city driving. And when petrol price goes up, who suffer? For highway drive, I can get up to 850km. Some managed 900km!

For flooded roads, the extra height from 4x4 vehicles will help a lot... u just drive across the flood waters... no need to to follow others. If u want to cross a river, also can... just drive! And diesel trucks are cheaper to maintain than petrol ones... why? Minimal electronics and built tough for any situation.

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post Apr 18 2011, 06:55 PM

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Can always install rear view camera.....
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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Apr 18 2011, 02:06 PM)
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settled for an isuzu d-max 3.0 manual which is about the size of pajero sport. so far no problem with reverse parking.
asx was initially in the shortlist due to its ground clearance but removed due to no 4wd. still went for a test drive thou. quite under power. the asx will only viable to 'soccer mom'; some ground clearance with 'truck like' rear seat(commanding driver's view and that's all). the crv fare better. smile.gif
i don't need another 'higher ground clearance' sedan car ....jk tongue.gif

acbc@ is right about the fc. i could cover close to 880km in full tank on d-max. for those who travel a lot, diesel car is a good choice. the fuel cost saved in a year is more than sufficient to compensate the higher road tax.
btw, the isuzu d-max double cab is a lot more easier to reverse park in any condition than the 850cc viva. the steering alone feels much differ wink.gif
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Apr 18 2011, 08:16 PM)
settled for an isuzu d-max 3.0 manual which is about the size of pajero sport. so far no problem with reverse parking.
asx was initially in the shortlist due to its ground clearance but removed due to no 4wd. still went for a test drive thou. quite under power.  the asx will only viable to 'soccer mom'; some ground clearance with 'truck like' rear seat(commanding driver's view and that's all). the crv fare better.  smile.gif
i don't need another 'higher ground clearance' sedan car ....jk tongue.gif 

acbc@ is right about the fc. i could cover close to 880km in full tank on d-max. for those who travel a lot, diesel car is a good choice. the fuel cost saved in a year is more than sufficient to compensate the higher road tax.
btw, the isuzu d-max double cab is a lot more easier to reverse park in any condition than the 850cc viva. the steering alone feels much differ  wink.gif
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Diesel is for everyone even if they hardly travel. It is cheap to run (diesel is RM 1.80/L and has better mileage), cheap to maintain (just make sure battery and starter ok) and cheap everything (don't even need to fix minor dents).

Face it, petrol is for people with loads of cash to burn by paying high fuel cost, spend more on electronics (stupid sensors, ECUs, wiring & crap) and pay more for something else. Yes, u save on road tax but come one... it is only once a year affair! Don't tell me u need to budget for paying RM 90 (1500cc) or RM 382 road tax (2000cc)? Diesel road tax is RM 831 for 2500cc which u recover back in less than 6 months from diesel fuel and mileage.

A friend of mine who only used his Triton to work and home, only need to pump every 2 weeks of RM 110 full tank. That is RM 220 per month! Compared to his previous ride, RM 400 per month! Service interval for diesel is every 10000km and can use cheap mono-grade engine oil such as Castrol CRB Turbo. If u have extra money, opt for something better.

Why do u think 70% of Europe used diesel engines? Even in Thailand, at least 50% of new cars / trucks are diesel powered.
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compare this to what hyundai offer, the new tucson. it's like comparing a car with 15 years of different
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post Apr 19 2011, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 18 2011, 06:17 PM)
I drive my Triton daily and park in the same place as anyone would... trust me, it is a lot easier to park a large vehicle in shopping complexes for as long clearance is 1.9m minimum. And for as long the reverse sensors are working, what is so difficult? Unless of course, your parking skill sucks big time! And it is safe (which snatch thief going to target a large truck?) and FC is marvelous... u try to find a car / truck which can give u 700km of mileage at RM 100 tankful pure city driving. And when petrol price goes up, who suffer? For highway drive, I can get up to 850km. Some managed 900km!

For flooded roads, the extra height from 4x4 vehicles will help a lot... u just drive across the flood waters... no need to to follow others. If u want to cross a river, also can... just drive! And diesel trucks are cheaper to maintain than petrol ones... why? Minimal electronics and built tough for any situation.
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Chill out dude. Was just trying to proove the point that all vehicles are designed for some particular reasons. D ASX was suppose to be a decaf-SUV (more on looks than capability n more comfort too), so its totally unfair to compare againts a true 4wd step-ladder pickup. You wouldn't compare some roadside hawker chicken rice to some roasted chick served in a prestigeous international std restaurant, do you?

While I agree tat diesel is d way to go, we still hv to admit tat d affordable oil burners here r still far off from being refined and still short of choices due to u-know-wat.

I've regularly driven a Storm n Frontier sometime back when in KL and I noe how dependant it is on reverse sensors, but i didnt mention tat any1 truck owner fails parking, so no need to get all heated up on who sucks on parking. Anyway since TS has got himself a D-Max (one of my favourite trucks around now), think d thread can either b closed or b a discussion point for d ASX.

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