Overpriced and no AWD.

Still prefer the Airtrek Turbo... has everything for less than RM 70k now. But... too bad, RON97 only.

This post has been edited by acbc: Apr 16 2011, 08:06 PM

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Why pay more for less? No AWD means the SUV is useless on flooded roads which is very common these days (heavy thunderstorm). And on top of that, it runs on petrol which more expensive than diesel but less powerful. For RM 150k, u can buy a Triton or Pajero Sports and load up RM 50k worth of useful accessories and performance upgrades. And even spare change for dyno test / tuning. Plus, it is cheap to run and cost less in the long run. Monthly installment also lower. Road tax is RM 831 per year but u already save lots from the diesel alone.

And, since the truck is very high... snatch thieves won't target it. U can bang the f***er off the road if needed too.

3008 of course... cheaper road tax (1600cc), better FC & superior 6-speed AT gearbox. And... traction control!

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Added on April 18, 2011, 10:48 amThe ASX is a soccer mom's car in Japan...

This post has been edited by acbc: Apr 18 2011, 10:48 AM

I drive my Triton daily and park in the same place as anyone would... trust me, it is a lot easier to park a large vehicle in shopping complexes for as long clearance is 1.9m minimum. And for as long the reverse sensors are working, what is so difficult? Unless of course, your parking skill sucks big time! And it is safe (which snatch thief going to target a large truck?) and FC is marvelous... u try to find a car / truck which can give u 700km of mileage at RM 100 tankful pure city driving. And when petrol price goes up, who suffer? For highway drive, I can get up to 850km. Some managed 900km!

For flooded roads, the extra height from 4x4 vehicles will help a lot... u just drive across the flood waters... no need to to follow others. If u want to cross a river, also can... just drive! And diesel trucks are cheaper to maintain than petrol ones... why? Minimal electronics and built tough for any situation.

This post has been edited by acbc: Apr 18 2011, 11:15 PM

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Diesel is for everyone even if they hardly travel. It is cheap to run (diesel is RM 1.80/L and has better mileage), cheap to maintain (just make sure battery and starter ok) and cheap everything (don't even need to fix minor dents).

Face it, petrol is for people with loads of cash to burn by paying high fuel cost, spend more on electronics (stupid sensors, ECUs, wiring & crap) and pay more for something else. Yes, u save on road tax but come one... it is only once a year affair! Don't tell me u need to budget for paying RM 90 (1500cc) or RM 382 road tax (2000cc)? Diesel road tax is RM 831 for 2500cc which u recover back in less than 6 months from diesel fuel and mileage.

A friend of mine who only used his Triton to work and home, only need to pump every 2 weeks of RM 110 full tank. That is RM 220 per month! Compared to his previous ride, RM 400 per month! Service interval for diesel is every 10000km and can use cheap mono-grade engine oil such as Castrol CRB Turbo. If u have extra money, opt for something better.

Why do u think 70% of Europe used diesel engines? Even in Thailand, at least 50% of new cars / trucks are diesel powered.

Well, unlike petrol engines... the sensors and ECU for diesel engines are reliable... after all, they are built for work! And diesel engines don't need electrical support to work (no spark plug, coil plug, igniter, power unit, distributor and etc).

The current Euro2M diesel is ok for most common rail engines... so, no worries. I have tried Thai Euro4 diesel back in Feb and of course it is way better but at higher cost (RM 3.10/L). And since diesel is for industrial use, the G cannot simply increase diesel price. If they do, everything will go up by 50% over night!

I have used Castrol CRB Turbo for my Renault Kangoo 1.5DCi (also common rail) for almost a year now... very good and gives good mileage and cost less than RM 80 for 4L. Will be using the same oil for my Triton and Navara after warranty period. And I always change oil every 10k and sometimes 7k depending on distance covered.

The perception with diesel engines here in MY is it is noisy, no power, smoky and it chatters. But, with more than 350nm of torque, who cares? U get both power and economy at the same time. With fuel controller such as Vector, u gain 30% more power... enough to tailgate an E46 325 on highways and still can jump over speed humps at 50kph.

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Added on April 20, 2011, 1:11 amIMO, I always go for long term... because I only change cars every 10 years. Why?

1. Roads in PJ and KL are bad - need a tough vehicle
2. Floods are common here (at least in Kota Damansara) - need a tall vehicle to cross over
3. Too many smash and grab thefts - need a robust vehicle
4. Petrol price very unstable (at least for RON 97) - need something cheap and economical

I chose the Triton because it has everything I want for less money. Can do more and better. Easier to upgrade and cheap to maintain. Accessories plenty to go around. Can park anywhere... even on curbs and unpaved roads.

This post has been edited by acbc: Apr 20 2011, 01:11 AM

Come on... RM 831 for 2500cc but u save on diesel and mileage. Petrol road tax is cheap but petrol itself will go up. Plus, it is a a yearly affair. U only need to budget once.

Take example... for diesel, to cover 2500km... u pump RM 400 per month. For the same mileage on petrol, u pay RM 550 per month. That's a saving of RM 150 per month. Multiply by 12 months, u already save RM 1800 per year which is more than enough to cover the RM 831 road tax. Think long term and rationally.

This heavy car doesn't save fuel at all. With outdated engine and gearbox... worse FC than 2008 Honda Accord 2.0!