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post Aug 23 2011, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 23 2011, 11:30 AM)
hello guys , here i am again asking news for electra...any? lol
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Maybe you can stay tuned on Razer Malaysia Fan Club. They will update the latest product available in the stores.
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post Aug 23 2011, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Aug 23 2011, 11:30 AM)
hello guys , here i am again asking news for electra...any? lol
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no news yet, probably around late september?
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post Aug 23 2011, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 01:27 PM)
seeing as chimaera 5.1 only requires one 3.5mm headphone jack, i think that probably says enough.
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if you use only single 3.5mm jack, then it'll be stereo only..
i think the 5.1 mode only works when u use the spdif/toslink/optical cable/whateveryoucallit from your xbox or PC..
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 23 2011, 01:38 PM)
if you use only single 3.5mm jack, then it'll be stereo only..
i think the 5.1 mode only works when u use the spdif/toslink/optical cable/whateveryoucallit from your xbox or PC..
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all the fancy outputs are for the xbox.
PC needs to buy RCA to 3.5mm for the 5.1...doesnt come in the package.
the surround is done by dolby processing.
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post Aug 23 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 01:56 PM)
all the fancy outputs are for the xbox.
PC needs to buy RCA to 3.5mm for the 5.1...doesnt come in the package.
the surround is done by dolby processing.
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if your PC has the spdif out, then you can utilise the spdif input on the chimaera, just like the xbox..
the RCA-3.5mm is not necessary..

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the circled 'a'.

just need to set your default sound device in windows to SPDIF instead of the analog jacks..

using the above method will allow you to use true 5.1 source, whereas the dolby headphones will just take 2 channel stereo and upmix to become virtual 5.1.

the true 5.1 source is supposed to give u more accurate positioning, imagine watching a 5.1ch encoded movies in stereo, the dolby headphones can only do guesstimate at best.
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but there is no true 5.1 source...
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post Aug 23 2011, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 02:07 PM)
but there is no true 5.1 source...
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the SPDIF will allow true 5.1 source.. its a digital pass thru, and its commonly used in HTPC for output to external decoder/amp..

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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Aug 23 2011, 02:08 PM)
the SPDIF will allow true 5.1 source.. its a digital pass thru, and its commonly used in HTPC for output to external decoder/amp..
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how do u get a true 5.1 source from a 2.0 headset?
the chimaera only has 1 driver on each side, unlike the tiamat which is a true surround source that has 5 drivers in each cup.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 02:20 PM)
how do u get a true 5.1 source from a 2.0 headset?
the chimaera only has 1 driver on each side, unlike the tiamat which is a true surround source that has 5 drivers in each cup.
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dont confuse the source and the number of drivers..
the source that im talking about is movies/games that are natively outputting 5.1.
by using RCA-3.5mm, you are forcing the movies/games to be downmixed to stereo channel only, hence losing the extra channels of positional audio data.

the megalodon takes true 7.1 source, do the virtualization at the backend, and presented it to user by downmixing to be output by 2 drivers, but the controls on front/center/surround channels are still fully working, and the positioning will still work, because u gave em 8 discreet channels of data, and it will know which sound to which channel..

the same applies to Chimaera 5.1 IF you use the SPDIF cable.

whereas if you use stereo and upmix to 5.1 via dolby headphones, then it'll be the dolby algorithm doing the hanky panky to upmix a stereo to 5.1 and give u some guesstimate positioning, because it will not know which sound to which channel, cause u only gave him stereo..

dont ask me how 2 drivers will be able to simulate 5.1/7.1 channels(aka megalodon style), even if i give u a true 5.1 speakers setup, you will still be listening it with 2 ears rite? your other senses doesnt help in determining the source/position of the sound, so go figure.. tongue.gif

edit : for more reading on this subject,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Headphone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrtf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_recording

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post Aug 23 2011, 04:21 PM

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there is a malaysian winner for the tiamat laugh.gif damn lucky.. im seriously jelly now
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post Aug 23 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(a_rev93 @ Aug 23 2011, 04:21 PM)
there is a malaysian winner for the tiamat laugh.gif damn lucky.. im seriously jelly now
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Yea mang...
very lucky indeed laugh.gif
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post Aug 23 2011, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 23 2011, 04:26 PM)
Yea mang...
very lucky indeed  laugh.gif
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hope he is one of lowyat forumers smile.gif we can get the one of the most earliest review from him.. how grand it must be for a headphone to have lots of driver in it
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post Aug 23 2011, 04:55 PM

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Tiamat 7.1 looks good! Gonna consider this one... hopefully it will available for testing maybe in the upcoming PC Fair or something.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 23 2011, 04:55 PM)
Tiamat 7.1 looks good! Gonna consider this one... hopefully it will available for testing maybe in the upcoming PC Fair or something.
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next PC FAIR only december tongue.gif
got one IT FAIR coming up next weekend Sep 2/3/4 in Mid Valley, not sure if Chimaera will make debut there...will update soon.
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post Aug 23 2011, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 23 2011, 04:55 PM)
Tiamat 7.1 looks good! Gonna consider this one... hopefully it will available for testing maybe in the upcoming PC Fair or something.
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Probably next month or two ....
Not the type for 7.1 of guy...

The max for me would be 5.1 already...

Im getting 2.2 like Everydying said... tongue.gif

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post Aug 23 2011, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 04:56 PM)
next PC FAIR only december tongue.gif
got one IT FAIR coming up next weekend Sep 2/3/4 in Mid Valley, not sure if Chimaera will make debut there...will update soon.
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u mean that fair sponsor by kaspersky etc? where can i know all these pc fair event? been wanted to go long ago, but always when i know the event, it has ald passed. >.>
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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Aug 23 2011, 05:00 PM)
u mean that fair sponsor by kaspersky etc? where can i know all these pc fair event? been wanted to go long ago, but always when i know the event, it has ald passed. >.>
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yea, should be that one.
http://forum.lowyat.net/EventsandGatherings
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 05:12 PM)
how do i know if they are sellin gadgets? i dont want to end up arriving there only to know they sell kaspersky (u get wad i mean)lols
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QUOTE(chchan_89 @ Aug 23 2011, 05:14 PM)
how do i know if they are sellin gadgets? i dont want to end up arriving there only to know they sell kaspersky (u get wad i mean)lols
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u can easily click the link which has the official website and know everything there is to know.
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post Aug 23 2011, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 23 2011, 04:56 PM)
next PC FAIR only december tongue.gif
got one IT FAIR coming up next weekend Sep 2/3/4 in Mid Valley, not sure if Chimaera will make debut there...will update soon.
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Then it should be available for sale during the next PC Fair biggrin.gif. Best if can test as well hehehe...can't wait~!

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