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reconer
post Oct 11 2006, 11:51 PM

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hi all, i just started EvE. im looking for malaysian corps who play at 8pm-12am.

need help from you guys. currently me in Oipo solar system.


Hope to hear some replies!

online nick = Guided Bullets
Dawn_eclair
post Oct 12 2006, 02:14 PM

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hi welcome to EVE
ad btw Guided Bullets i have asked u for a chat ingame but u rejected

well u just go join > kopitiam channel lor

Nightfalls
post Oct 12 2006, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(XJC @ Oct 11 2006, 09:02 PM)
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QUOTE(j05h @ Oct 11 2006, 11:13 AM)
nightfalls, what is your in-game nick?

in the channels screen, enter 'Kopitiam' in to search and you'll find us. no wonder... been wondering who you are in-game...

and for armor, it's plates. they increase HP, but add mass, reducing agility. as with many, many things, it's always better to put in damage reduction mods like membranes and hardeners and all that... really, cos you can tailor the damage reduction to the damage you're getting from that specific rat (use eveinfo.com for lvl 3 and 4), which is more effective than an plate that's got even resists across the board.
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Location = Perimeter II Moon I .... Sometimes Niyabainen IX Moon 21.. for Storyline..


One thing i still don't really get it ... If i use a Resistance Armor that e.g. +20% Resistance to ALL DMG... and i equip another RA that e.g. 25% to Explosion dmg... will it be penalized ?

And if i use 3 types of different Modules.. Resistance Armor, Energized Plating, Armor Hardeners that gives +resistance to the SAME Explosion DMG.. will it be penalized also ?

This post has been edited by Nightfalls: Oct 12 2006, 03:27 PM
Phoenix Red
post Oct 12 2006, 06:16 PM

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yea u get penalised if you stack modules that give the same bonuses to certain attributes if say you got 5 of the same type of modules the resistance value would be more than 100% (no such thing right) so afaik it penalise.

I'm working out of Oipo system atm so Guided Bullet you will see me quite often there. I'm based out pof the Ishukone Watch Station running the lvl3 n 4 agents based there ... maybe later can bring you on a lvl4 mission run..... biggrin.gif

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reconer
post Oct 12 2006, 09:39 PM

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ah sry, was at work, and my EVE char was doing something so i set it to off.

send me a mail! will that help?
reconer
post Oct 12 2006, 09:41 PM

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hey give me your nicks! Phoniex Red... i think i saw ur nick somewhere....

im at ishokone moon 19.
XJC
post Oct 12 2006, 11:37 PM

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NEED TO KNOW ONLY

Stacking penalty
1st Mod: x1
2nd Mod: x0.87
3rd Mod: x0.57
4th Mod: x0.28
5th Mod: x0.11
6th Mod: x0.03

IIRC, mods that mentioned stacking penalty use this formula. As you can see, it is recommended to use up to 3 mods of same type. More than that it is a waste.

For shield and armour resistance, it has their own calculation and the above stacking penalty as well.
For example, shield's thermal resistance:

Base resistance = 20%
At 20% resist, the shield is vulnerable to 80% damage.

1st mod, a thermal shield resistance amplifier = 32.5%
The hardener will negate 32.5% of from 80% of the damage
Ship resistance
= {Base resist.} + {1st mod resist.)
= {20%} + {32.5/100 x 80%}
= 20% + 26%
= 46% or vulnerable to 54% of damage

If fit in a same mod, 2nd mod = 32.5%
Being a 2nd mod, it'll have a penalty of 0.87 efficiency. So
= 32.5% x 0.87
= 28.275%

Total ship's thermal resistance
= {Base resist} + {1st mod resist.} + {2nd mod resist}
= 20% + 26% + {28.275/100 x 54%}
= 46% + 15.27%
= 61.27%

Notes:
1. Mods that give the best resistance are calculated first.
2. Ship's resistances bonus are calculated last and do not suffer from stacking penalty.
3. Damage Control mod is similar to ship's, that is it is calculated last and do not suffer from stacking penalty.

I think that's all for another fact of EVE. Fly safe smile.gif
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post Oct 12 2006, 11:43 PM

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Nightfalls
post Oct 13 2006, 11:52 AM

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meaning.. if i put in 3 Energized Armor that +resist dmg to ALL Dmg.. the calculation are same ?

Sorry.. my SPM Maths = P7 happy.gif College Maths = Fail
XJC
post Oct 13 2006, 06:24 PM

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You mean Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane? Yep, as long as the second mod (and third and so on) that gives the same resistance type as the first mod, the stacking penalty will apply.
If 3 mods are of different resistance type, then there are no stacking penalty.

Well, as long you know how to survive in EVE, that's the most important thing thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by XJC: Oct 13 2006, 06:26 PM
Ashurn/Pierce
post Oct 14 2006, 01:26 AM

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That was some great information there XJC. So it would still viable to stack defensive plates if you would know what rats you are up against. XD

Hope to learn more eventually.

Just one question here though. Are Blueprints Original limited in game?

Or only specific few are?

And are Blueprint Copies made by players with BPO? Or are they supplied by NPCs?

As well as, you do not need skills in anything at all to use a BPO/BPC to manufacture?

biggrin.gif Thanks in advance.
Dawn_eclair
post Oct 14 2006, 06:23 AM

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yup its best to mod specific mod like hardener/dampamper example for diff type of rats ur going against

BPO is not limited u can get from mkt
to manufact just need industry to speed it
and science will be good
if u go in more detaisl like ships building u need more skils like specific race enginnerrring

Phoenix Red
post Oct 14 2006, 03:17 PM

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bpo for t1 mods can get from npc corp stations....more specific mods like named, officer, faction mods (eg. arby, etc.) only drop from rats...so u cant have bpo or bpc for those.

t2 bpo are seeded "randomly" by ccp to players who got R&D going (lottery system) and if u get one you are the lucky few..

Once u got t1 or t2 bpo u can make copies "bpc" for sale or increase their me or pe thru research.

t1 bpo/bpc u can manufacture with no skills afaik but t2 u need certain specialist skills to manufacture not to mention components which u need to purchase of market or get a bpo to manufacture these components so u can complete the t2 mods/ships.

From wat i know there was only 20 bpo for each t2 items seeded... (thats what i heard anyways) apparantely ccp going to seed more t2 bpo since they will be introducing t3 mods in Kali (again thats what i heard). oh btw some of the t2 bpo's were destroyed by hostile actions so thats why they got monopoly more or less in t2 mods (just like OPEC) tongue.gif

forgot to mention some faction mods and bpc can be offered by agents for LP, ISK, or ITEMS. eg. CNR, CNC, Hookbill, CN BCU, etc

This post has been edited by Phoenix Red: Oct 14 2006, 03:19 PM
Ashurn/Pierce
post Oct 14 2006, 07:04 PM

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Ah, I see...
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post Oct 14 2006, 10:14 PM

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oooh Red the guru speaks biggrin.gif
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post Oct 15 2006, 12:59 AM

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And hey there Dawx. XD

Oh well, now working damn boring.

Reading on some idiotic posts on multiple accounts are unfair shit rofl.

His arguement is one of the worse. Kept on saying it is unfair to have more than one account due to it being unfair because he cannot afford to pay for more than one account. ROFL.

My stomach was aching like mad from all the holding back on laughs in my office after reading the post.

When people said it wasn't unfair because the oppoturnity is opened to him, he still kept on with his "I have no money and can't pay for it, therefore it is unfair" bullshit.

If you would like to read it, it can be found here.
Dawn_eclair
post Oct 15 2006, 03:58 AM

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just hackare them
i also not willing to pay for 2nd account too
if u got the cash to pay for more why not
u r paying it and working for its isk or whatever

just do what u like in eve and dont borther them
there is always some ppls jealous of it due to ppls who can access or who can pay for more then 2 account

hope to cya ingame again


Ashurn/Pierce
post Oct 16 2006, 12:52 AM

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Yay! 16th & 17th I off! Woohoo.

Now I am secretly training a Caldarian Pilot for ratting purpose. Hehe.
Dawn_eclair
post Oct 16 2006, 01:38 AM

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Woot!!! ash
thouhgt u got a refiner? since u cant have 1 person trainig skills unless u got 3 accounts hehe

Ashurn/Pierce
post Oct 16 2006, 02:20 AM

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You got that right. biggrin.gif

3 accounts.

Edit: 60+ to 70 dollars per month for an entertainment I like is nothing. Since I do not smoke, drink nor go pub/clubs as well.

My only entertainment is either games, movies/outing with friends or just plain good food. =)

This post has been edited by Ashurn/Pierce: Oct 16 2006, 02:22 AM

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