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INTEL OVERCLOCKING THREAD, TIPS,Q n A, Results...Great For NueBis
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raymond5105
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Apr 11 2006, 08:28 PM
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I think that is because of the clock speed issue.Your's is at 4.2Ghz while anthonio's max at 3.9Ghz.So the difference of 300Mhz might be causing the difference in the super PI time.
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raymond5105
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Apr 12 2006, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(Flynni @ Apr 11 2006, 10:35 PM) anyone knows this mobo can do overcloaking Your attach picture is so big at 1.4 MB.Please make it in smaller size.If using dail up sure cannot load this picture.And i think that SIS chipset is not good for major o/c.Minor o/c i think should be no problem.Anyway you can try to o/c and post your results here.Let's share with us.
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raymond5105
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Apr 15 2006, 12:17 PM
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You have to set the fsb manual instead of letting it running on auto.Then only you can o/c the mobo.I believe that you mobo can be o/c because only the Intel mobo cannot be o/c,other brands one can be o/c.
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raymond5105
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Apr 23 2006, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 23 2006, 01:52 AM) hey guys if u all dont mind can give me a little guide to over clocking? i just bought my pentium D 805 2.66ghz. wonder if i can over clock it  i'm using asus P5SD2-X Sure your mobo using can o/c your processor.Just give a try on it.No harm.
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raymond5105
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Apr 23 2006, 02:40 PM
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You can press on delete button to enter the bios.
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raymond5105
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Apr 23 2006, 03:07 PM
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Just download the super PI program then you unzip the files.Run the program then can test your proc stability already.
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raymond5105
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Apr 26 2006, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(nizamextreme @ Apr 25 2006, 08:10 AM) theres no difference..the only difference is the fsb bandwidth..that all  800fsb is more superior with than 533fsb in bandwidth.The performance is also higher than the 533fsb which the proc only running with 133Mhz with quad pump.
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raymond5105
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Apr 27 2006, 01:09 PM
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The different between 533fsb and 800fsb is the bandwidth.Bandwidth = Data transfer size.you can imagine the situation like below.I quoted from jinaun's reference at RAM handbook (Dealing with Memory Speeds / Frequencies ).The quoted part as below: QUOTE This is another ramification of the limiting effect of the AMD dual-pumped FSB. A P4's quad pumped FSB (along with the superior optimization of the async modes) allows P4's to benefit in some cases from async modes that run the memory faster than the FSB. This is especially true of single channel P4 systems. There still are synchronization losses inherent in an async mode on any system, but the adequate FSB bandwidth of the P4 allows the additional memory bandwidth produced by async operation to overcome these losses and produce a net gain. 250MHz FSB speed with 80% or 5:4 (FSB:Memory ratio) results in 200MHz memory speed (DDR400) This example is most often used in overclocking situations where the memory is not able to keep up with the speed of the FSB. On AMD platforms, there is really no point having a high FSB, if the memory can't keep up. When the memory or any other component is holding back system performance, this is called a "bottleneck". As in the example above, a memory bottleneck would be if you were running your memory at DDR400 MHz with a 500 MHz (250x2) system bus. The memory would only be providing 3.2GB/s of bandwidth while the bus would be theoretically capable of transmitting 4.0GB/s of bandwidth. A situation like this would not help overall system performance.
Think of it like this; let's say you had a highway going straight into a mall, with an identical highway going straight out of the mall. Both highways have the same number of lanes and initially they have the same 45mph speed limit. Now let's say that there's a great deal of traffic flowing in and out of the mall and in order to get more people in and out of the mall quicker, the department of transportation agrees to increase the speed limit of the highway going into the mall from 45mph to 70mph; the speed limit of the highway leaving the mall is still stuck at 45mph. While more people will be able to reach the mall quicker, there will still be a bottleneck in the parking area leaving the mall - since the increased numbers of people that are able to get to the mall still have to leave at the same rate. This is equivalent to increasing the FSB frequency but leaving the memory frequency/bandwidth unchanged or set to a slower speed. You're speeding up one part of the equation while leaving the other part untouched. Sometimes the fastest memory is not always afforded or available. In this case, more focus should be placed on balancing the FSB and memory frequencies while still keeping latencies as low as possible AND while still maintaining CPU clock speed (GHz) by increasing the multiplier. The benefit of a faster FSB (and higher bandwidth) will only become more and clearer as clock speeds (GHz) increase; the faster the CPU gets, the more it will depend on getting more data quicker. The only real benefit of async modes on AMD platforms is the fact that it comes in handy to overclockers for testing purposes; to determine their max FSB and to eliminate the memory as a possible cause for not being able to achieve a desired stable FSB speed. Even so, async modes on early nforce2 based motherboards caused many problems; problems as serious as bios corruption. Hope you can get some picture what i am trying to express to you.And of course that the higher the fsb,the more performance you will get during gaming.for office apllication,both of the proc won't affect much as i assumed that you are applying some word,netmeeting,ie and some office documents.
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raymond5105
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Jun 29 2006, 01:09 PM
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The Power Logic PSU always written like that,true power of the supply only half of the pure power at max.  @Amedion why not get the one with 450w at least.What's your budget to get new PSU ?
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raymond5105
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Jun 30 2006, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 29 2006, 01:32 PM) Actually i dun wan spend so much on PSU.. i tot that's the true power.. 300w.. it is listed there 300w PURE/TRUE power and 600w is the MAX power.. I got think of the ATRIX 500W pure power.. but then i heard someone said it's lousy also.. RM165 wor..  You can check on the +12v rail see it is stable or not.
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raymond5105
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Jun 30 2006, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 30 2006, 10:42 AM) it's 12.03 ~ 12.09 .. between that.. is that stable ?  During load also maintain as the level?that's considered stable.But how much or max current does it supplies?
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raymond5105
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Jul 29 2006, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(bobtiang @ Jul 26 2006, 03:46 PM) hi all gurus... hope to get some advice. thanks in advance. here's some info of my P4 captured with CPU-Z, anything I can tweak to serve me better? smile.gif CPU [attachmentid=123215] Mobo [attachmentid=123216] RAM [attachmentid=123217] SPD [attachmentid=123218] I think the RAM speed is a bit low.. isn't? please advice. Yours is using INtel 865PERL mobo which doesb't have the o/c functions there.Regarding your RAM,since your processor is 2.4A which is not HT support + running in 533 FSB(quad-pump),so your RAM is resulting running in 166Mhz. QUOTE(milky @ Jul 27 2006, 04:41 PM) guys by looking @ my spec do u think can OC ? default is 3.0ghz... Your spec can o/c since using other type of mobo,not intel one.
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raymond5105
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Aug 30 2006, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Aug 22 2006, 04:49 AM) guys, can help somthg in this?  i jus wan to kno, can i oc my ram? the divider is 4:5 (actually i'm not understand what does it mean...) now i dunno my ram is 2.5-3-3-8 or 2.5-4-4-8.  i got 3 sticks of ram, 256+512+256, all are corsair. since the FSB is 167, the divider is 4:5, then 167*(4/5)=133.6, 133.6*2(since it is DDR), equals to 267.2, is that mean i gona change my DRAM frequency to DDR266? correct me if i'm wrong!(i know i must be wrong)... The 4:5 means for 166FSB you set on the setting,quad 166 will the 668FSB on the CPU-Z. Where your memory you will get 208MHz from this equation (166*5/4).Get what i mean?
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raymond5105
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Sep 6 2006, 05:27 PM
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Sep 6 2006, 01:16 AM) Still the RAM QUestion here... Please c here1)From the pic above, my RAM frequency 208.8, times 2 is 417 which is closer to 400 coz my RAM is DDR400. So can it be say i OC on a correct way for my RAM? 2)If i keep on OC my proc and make the fsb to 200, then the RAM frequency ll becom 250, times 2 ll becom 500. Since my RAM just DDR400, so if I make to 500, my mobo can support it? Performences ll better or weaker? 3)Can I change the divider 4:5 to other? Thanks! Once you o/c even 1FSB,then is consider doing o/c already on cpu + RAM.If you wish to increase your FSB to 200 then you should try to o/c it to 200FSB then only know whether your system can support or not.No one can tell you the exact anwer here.This depends much on your system setup + hardware used.
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raymond5105
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Sep 7 2006, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE(RokXIII @ Sep 6 2006, 10:06 PM) I understand this 1. But still on the question, can i change the divider?  Yes you can change the divider as provided from your mobo's bios.
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raymond5105
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Sep 7 2006, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(kasperskyz @ Sep 7 2006, 12:54 PM) my cpu is p4 2.67ghz....how much ghz is the best did i need to oc? P4 2.67GHz is 533 FSB quad pump.O/cing wise is dependent on your hardware.Maybe you can share out your spec here.We can help you...
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raymond5105
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Sep 7 2006, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(kasperskyz @ Sep 7 2006, 01:41 PM) p4 2.67 1gb ddr2 ram intel d945plrn mobo ati x300 256mb 80gb pata hdd dvd combo Intel 945 mobo, i not sure whether it can be overclock or not.Do you see and options to change the FSB in bios mode?If yes then you may overclock.
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raymond5105
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Sep 8 2006, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Sep 7 2006, 05:05 PM) But normaly intel board doesn't provide oc settings in the BIOS. If really cannot oc in bios, try clockgen....hehe just my 2 cents @RokXIII refer to your mobo menual, the setting for devider should be available. If you able to set it to 1:1, your proc can perform better than mine. C0 steping i think same as mine. hehe. i check tonight  Normally hte Intel doesn't support o/c but the new type mobo like the 975X does support o/cing.
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raymond5105
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Sep 8 2006, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Sep 8 2006, 09:52 AM) Which is it better? 4:5 with 168fsb:208ram loose timing (i doubt my ram can run at this speed) 1:1 with 168fsb:168ram tight timing (currently running) i will try play around tonight.  is it?  i didn't know that. I just know all type of mobo from Intel are not support oc.  @RokXIII mine stepping same as yours, my max oc is up to 3.2+GHz but not stable.  If you go to check the core 2 duo then you can see ppl using Intel 975X mobo to o/c. Well if can run on 1:1 at loose timing.Since Intel platform prefer loose timing than tight timing.
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raymond5105
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Sep 8 2006, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(kabukiawie @ Sep 8 2006, 12:00 PM) you mean loose timing perform better for Intel? like 2.5-x-x-x? Yes,like the timing of 2.5-4-4-8 or 3.0-4-4-8, The high performance RAM can do at 2-x-x-x
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