Hi All ,

Where to get Monster Cable ? As i know Harvey Norman are selling it but not the console version. It is good and lifetime warranty. But quite expensive and game shop is selling fake one same as original price and no warranty. As I know ,minimum requirement for the game console graphic to get max performance is using 14.5Gbps HDMI cable. Same goes to PC gaming too.

I am looking for this :

1. Monster GameLink™ 360 Standard HDMI Cable
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=4447

2. M650 HDTV HDMI Cable
http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=3849

why the hell in the world you want to buy this overpriced piece of crap?

there's no difference in performance if you compare the few hundred ringgit Monster HDMI cable with the 15 ringgit Jalan Pasar HDMI cable

Just go ask around in the AV forum, or any AV kaki, they'll tell you the same

unless you're looking for longer than 3 meters HDMI cable, only then you really need to get a good one.

Nope... My friend and i had compare it.. He brought it from US and we tested the same Xbox 360S console and the same TV.. I am using RM 25.00 HDMI cable and he is using the MonsterCable.. The quality is different a lot.. What they said all the cheap and expensive HDMI cable are the same. This is not true.. It depends on what type of material they use.. Cheap pasar malam HDMI cable use 80% steel and 20% copper. Expensive one use 100% copper or more expensive are using gold.And their alignment and accuracy of the connector is 100% precisely, got to ask few electrical shop or hifi shop and they will show you whats the different. The transmitting rate is different,more bandwidth,more better signal quality being transmit.. Yes,cable length is one of the point too.. You will see some line on the tv or refresh rate is slow when you using cheap HDMI..Try get one with 14.5GBps and see the different..

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 11 2011, 01:05 PM

LOL~~~
how can there be any difference if the signal are digital? which is 1 and 0 only?
it's either work or don't work, there's no better or worst here

mind tell me what's the difference you saw on the screen?

clearer? color more vibrant? sharper?

as a gamer, you should go read this...
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-hdmi

btw, can you google me a link or forum that proof monster hdmi gave better result than those RM25 cable?

heres the kicker.
even with rm250 HDMI cables, it wont improve the games framerate and texture fidelity.


there someone selling monster cable @ LYN console pasar malam if you're still interested.

this only applicable to analogue cables, which is commonly used as the interconnects for the speakers, because analogue signals are prone to losing the fidelity when transmitted through different type of materials, hence losing the original quality, also it's prone to interference, hence a good insulation coating is important to isolate the interference.

BUT for digital, it's transmit only 1s and 0s, which is same like transmitting data between the computers, either it's success transmit, or failed, if failed, just re-transfer, and the strings of 1s & 0s still remain the same after transfer, unlike analogue, which the curve will have some changes.

and those electrical shops tells you branded HDMI is better? they just want your money
Hifi shop also claimed such thing? avoid that shop also, it's a black shop, none of the Hifi shop i frequent dare to claim or show me branded expensive HDMI cable are better than the cheap one.

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Apr 11 2011, 01:25 PM

I totally agreed with you greyshadow on this thing...

Digital signal only consist of 1 and 0 that all.. the carrier will not affected the quality.. This is totally different if we talking about analog signal... Well that a different story..

But since the TS insist want to buy those expensive cable, well.. let he be.. not that they use our money to buy it..

Google and you can see this issue already been discuss like million time already.. and the result is clear..

Here you go..

http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/advanced_for_hdmi.asp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIw6lrghOt0

your obsess with quality is blind u from everything
u should know...in digital world even ur keyboard language start from binary no
1 and 0

You do realize both of this video is from monster cable itself??

LOL

what credibility is there when both link are from the company it self?

anyway... i rest my case

it aint my $$$ anyway, there's someone selling at garage sales

Oic.. Thanks for the advise.. I am just worried that i buy wrong HDMI cable because i been cheated by game shop before for selling me RM 250 cable and now it is spoiled.. And one thing i like about MonsterCable is they give lifetime warranty and if the cable unable to performance due to future higher resolutions,they will replace free of cost.

dude..the only thing u need is HDMI right?
buy cheap jalan pasar also same function
dont waste ur money..both expensive and cheaper cable only transmit 1 and 0...

1 x RM250 Monster HDMI cable = 10 x RM25 Jalan Pasar HDMI cable

Thanks for the advise.

trust us or better save ur money to buy new games..

Somehow I dont trust people talking standing on POD... worst, he look like a Boleh Land Politician... .

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Added on April 11, 2011, 10:18 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpcTyzjYuvk&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Others give life time warranty for much less...

This post has been edited by shagalot: Apr 11 2011, 10:18 PM

TS , any hdmi cable will do bro ... dont spend too much on hdmi .. rm35 to rm80 hdmi consider okey already

there 2 basic type of HDMI

1.3 is standard
1.4 is for 3D (use onli for bluray player with 3D playback capability)

if use 1.4 on xbox, no different from 1.3

samsk !! Y U NO PM THIS GUY --> http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...l=monster+cable

Thank you very much... By the way, i do notice better quality HDMI doesnt lag and you wont see TV line (something like the screen slow down , Example : When play Darksider, turn the character around and you will notice the screen split into 2 for awhile if you cheap quality HDMI.) Anyone experienced this?

I am using RM 25.00 HDMI, 32 inch Samsung LED TV , Xbox 360 Slim

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Added on April 14, 2011, 9:24 amBy the way, where is gamers hideout in KL? I am looking into this too..
Is their cable good quality? Do they sold it separately? I just need the AV to connect to speaker.

http://www.gamershideout.com.my/products_v...oryid=1&type=12

Do this have original and fake? Here in Penang sold for RM 130.00.. Does this consider fake one?

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 14 2011, 09:24 AM

those u mention image split into half is called image tearing, in PC game we have a option "V-Sync" to avoid this from happening (it also lower the framerate to match your TV/Monitor refreash rate)

the image tearing only happens to prepatch Darksider, if you connect online for the patch it would solve the problem, thats a known launch problem of the game

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Apr 14 2011, 09:57 AM

Oic... Thanks for the info,guys.. By the way, i already order the MonsterCable for XBOX 360 from this place.

http://www.cable4ht.com/webshaper/store/vi...pkProductItem=8

Hopefully i will get great result.. will update you guys about the quality once i get the cable.

oh, pls, let me know as well.

lol, pls take pic of result before & after if you could

can't wait for the RM250 pictar

Ya... Do want to take the picture before and after... If i play game in 1080i, the current cable that i use still ok.. if play using 1080p, it become darker and i had to turn on the brightness to max.. I see something like a GeForce 5300GT graphic card image.. Can see dot and block.. How frustrated. Hopefully this special design monster cable HDMI for Xbox that certified by Microsoft for best Xbox 360 HDMI will give us best result.

dude~~ 1080i & 1080p are totally diff story la... get yer facts right
720p already better than 1080i
and there's almost next to none games that runs 1080p natively on xbox360

oh yeah... the monster cable you're buying, it ain't certified by MS, it's only licensed by MS, certified & licensed are totally diff story also yo~~

Oh.. Ok..Thanks for the info,dude.

Apa macam bro? dah test that cable? any different?
btw is Castlevania LOTS is 1080p native game?
coz i dont feel like 720p to me.

Order ald.. Havent received the cable yet....

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Added on April 20, 2011, 11:27 amHmm.. Castlevania indeed is a 1080p game.

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Added on April 20, 2011, 1:08 pmDid you know HDMI cable have different speed for different hardware?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8dbjaY_fdg&feature=related

Cheapskate HDMI cable only have one speed and you wont get the result that you want from the hardware if you are not using the proper bandwidth for HDMI cable. Thats why when people said all HDMI cable are same, they are wrong..

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 20 2011, 01:08 PM

i think you are a funny guy LOL, most of the comment that you show down there its on negative comment & you tell us you are right? then you should also see this video which is also just after the video you show up there LOL

Monster cables have built in gear transmission can change speed, don't play play

u still dont get it
do you

1 and 0

keep in those no in ur life
its called digital
not speed

my ass is falling off from excessive laughing

Cheap cables 1 and 0, Monster Cable got 6 speed transmission, and reverse gear too, so it's 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and R

don't forget it's turbo charged too!
it's even equipped with a flux capacitor!!

lol

LOL this is what i call blinded by Value

you can sell him a bluray rip dvd & tell him the quality is same as on bluray 1080p, so he shows the movie on a 15" CRT to prove the quality is there!

it become darker not because of the cable, but because you changed from 1080i to 1080p. even if you used USD300 monster cable will still be same dark in 1080p.


dude, you are correct when saying all HDMI cable are not the same. the difference is noticeable when using 35 feet HDMI cable, some cable can't perform as what they were supposed at this length. but if your cable length is only 6 feet (2 meters), RM20 cable will be the same as USD300 cable.

read up the test that Gizmondo have done, they were using proper machine, the Tektronix DSA8200 Digital Serial Analyzer to test the signal, not using just eyes and feel. my eyes might lie, your eyes might lie, but a machine won't lie.

Gizmondo HDMI test

Bro, u are right too.. But HDMI cable is just like network cable.. Have different type of cable available for bandwidth and network equipment types..
Not all the cable are same. Different type of frequency and bandwidth..
Why Cat6 cable run on 1Gbps and Cat5e can do the same? Price Cat5e is cheaper? But when you do check properly, it is because of the Mhz.. Both running on 1 Gbps but Cat6 is faster because it has the higher Mhz than Cat5e.. Same goes to Cat6a & Cat7.
And bro, not all things are same..
Does Proton car can run same speed as Mercedes car? Logic or not?
People said china brand cable can do the same thing as US brand cable. When talk about quality, of course we still go back to the US brand... Because china brand cable is cheap but unable to give the most required performance.. Just a basic performance. Same goes to HDMI..
Like Xbox DVD too, pirated game are the same with original.. Different is expensive one can play online and can get achievement,right?
Ya.. Before i post this thread i did read on this before.. But when buy the cable and feel the different, then we will know.
Anyway,thanks for sharing..

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 21 2011, 10:11 AM

I just just ppl judge by the value la. Like u pay RM200 more on cable but doesnt get RM200 worth perfomance. If u pay more, u usually get a better quality cable.
Example use by samsk is all wrong (i know wat u mean, but u use the wrong example). U should use example of a external HDD USB cable, did u guys know those cheap ass RM10+ USB cant power your ext. HDD alone? (ofcourse unless they are using 2 USB) If you buy more expensive USB cable it can power your ext. HDD with just 1 USB (I take it if your USB got power enough)

What I say is there is slight different, maybe not worth RM200, but sure there are some different there. Hell my friends even tell me using GTX250 is better than mine GTX470 or same performance. HE cant even tell the different shit.

No ones can show the different because if you digitally take screenshot it would be the same. It just matter how good they appear on your TV.

I think the cable expensive at the gold plated plug (dont confuse with cheap ass gold color plated plug)

This post has been edited by Edison83: Apr 21 2011, 10:32 AM

As long the cable that i buy doesnt failed me and giving me a great performance, thats fine with me..
Then we will just stop comparing the cable expensive cable and cheap skate cable..
If you believe me and want to get a great picture with the MC HDMI cable, go with it..
If you dont believe it and keep comment it, IT DOESNT MATTER!!

Hi azryl, this is the guide if you want to choose suitable HDMI cable for your great gaming experience.

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 21 2011, 10:56 AM

LOL, you have given wrong example...

Why Cat6 cable run on 1Gbps and Cat5e can do the same? (Cat 5e can do 1 gig for 100 meters (328 feet) & Cat 6 can do 10 gig for 37 meters (120 feet).

explaination:- the CAT6 cable has more twists per inch and is "better" manufactured than the CAT5e. The "twist" effect of each pair in the cables will cause any interference presented/picked up on one cable to be cancelled out by the cable's partner which twists around the initial cable. The CAT6 cable “copper process” has been designed with fewer "impurities" that can pass signals better than impurities that reflect the signal.

Does Proton car can run same speed as Mercedes car? ( it could both maintain on 100km/h )

People said china brand cable can do the same thing as US brand cable. (its in the end manufactured in china even if its a US Brand)

Like Xbox DVD too, pirated game are the same with original.. Different is expensive one can play online and can get achievement,right? (Wrong, why do you think ppl get banned from live?)

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Apr 21 2011, 11:28 AM

Really? How come Mercedes and proton maintain on 100km/h but Mercedes distance are more further than Proton?

Cat6 had more twists is true but you forget thing that without the separator, you still get Cat5e performance. Cat6 have separator to separate 4 pair of cable and minimize the crosstalk.. Cat5e doesnt have the separator thats why crosstalk occurred and cause interference between the cable pair. And the Cat6 copper thickness more than Cat5e.

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 21 2011, 12:20 PM

Wrong! Proton can get more further than Mercedes bcos Proton is more fuel efficient!

Cat5e or Cat6, you still can get the same speed of 1Gbps if both are in the same infra of same distance say 50M.
PC ===== 1Gb Switch with Cat5e
PC ===== 1GB Switch with Cat6

BOTH get the same speed of 1Gbps!! No difference!
Same with HDMI!

As long as the cable conform with the same HDMI standard/version, it will be the same! RM15 china brand or RM250 raksasa brand

lol
let stop it guys
no more technical discussion
at the end
it were his money
let him do wat ever he want to

believe wat lol, u still havent comment the cable you brought yet

if dont allow ppl to comment why u even bother to make a thread for. that how forum work.

Nope you are wrong... If you are using Fluke Tester to test it, you only get around 750Mbps or 800Mbps...
Not the same.. Big different there..

I am not talking about fuel.. then you want talk about Caltex, Shell and Petronas comparison again???

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Added on April 21, 2011, 1:36 pmI still havent received my cable until today... So i cant comment.. Dont worry.. Once received i sure comment..
Ya, i allow people comment, but dont over la,bro..

This post has been edited by samsk: Apr 21 2011, 01:36 PM

did u used calibrate fluke tester to test it?
i've a lot of fluke here at my department
mainly since im dealing with industrial computer here
precision is a must

Yes, you are correct.. With fluke tester DTX 1800 and some 3rd party software to test it... Even the fluke tester guy mention me about this... Oic... Maybe we can share contact?
By the way, my company are selling AMP cable.We are sole distributor in Malaysia. I am more to the technical site.

all ppl here just comment based on their thought
some maybe wrong and right.
good and bad always got
nothing is perfect.

What i say ealier is there only a slight different that are spotable, no major change
so if ppl use the value of the cable to compare the improvement they got, arent worth it
but for some home theatre dude, everything must go to the max and money arent a problem, so for them are worth it.

bro, thats exactly why i put the Gizmondo link there, it shows that that different cables will have different speed. but as long as all cables can transmit around 40 megabits per second (1080p/60hz requirement) then whatever cables you use still will give exact picture because the signal in digital ie. 1 and 0 only.

your car example makes me easier to explain to you. Proton speed maybe can reach till 200KM/H while Mercedes can reach 300KM/H, but all that speed is useless as the highway only limit the speed at 110KM/H. heck, at that speed even Kancil also can manage it. now change it to this:

Proton = RM20 cable
Mercedes = Monster cable
Kancil = cheap a55 China cable
110KM/H = 1080p/60hz speed.

so you see, even a car with higher speed also no use for the extra speed coz 110KM/H is the maximum allowed speed. so in this example, your bluray player / PC will only output a 110KM/H signal, your tv will only receive 110KM/H signal. as long as any cable meet 110KM/H then it will perform exactly the same because the output and receiver limits the speed to that.

if the cables is not more than 2 meters, there will not be different in quality of the video output. it either work, or don't work. you can check this Gizmondo test when it doesn't work, the different it noticeable in naked eyes.

Gizmondo link

urgh :vomit: (if there is such emote)

This post has been edited by IccyAsd: Apr 21 2011, 06:46 PM