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jason4883
post Apr 11 2011, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 11 2011, 08:02 PM)
although hotbits and powerzone are the more famous brand among car enthusiast what about a cheaper brand like wegow? does that consider as cap ayam anyway?  unsure.gif I find that their stuff are well pack, mandrel bend and looks extremely fine.
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Sorry bro...have not heard bout this brand... May b others have.


Added on April 11, 2011, 9:46 pm
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Apr 11 2011, 08:12 PM)
for apple to apple comparison.. Hotbits extractor only vs Powerzone, Hotbits primary pipe has a smaller diameter to increase exhaust velocity producing the vacuum and scavenging effect on the intake valve, therefore drawing more fresh air and fuel into the combustion chamber to produce more power. However when u reach high rpm the air velocity out of the exhaust valve is high and the smaller diameter hotbits primary becomes a restriction to maintain gas flow.. However powerzone primary tube are bigger in diameter.. In effect low end torque isnt really much improve due to the primary pipe not playing a major role in scavenging, and it solely relies on the secondary tube to create the drawing effect.

As what samwongjyhhorng has mentioned. We LYNPPC did a TT session racing up genting and back down to kl last saturday. It has been proven that hotbits did have a restrictive effect on top speed but providing much better acceleration instead.  flex.gif
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Thanks for the information. Will put Powerzone 4-2-1 extractor in my consideration list when I am ready to upgrade aftermarket extractor. rclxms.gif

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post Apr 11 2011, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Apr 11 2011, 08:12 PM)
THanks.. Im sure both of u are enjoying the plugs and filter..  biggrin.gif
for apple to apple comparison.. Hotbits extractor only vs Powerzone, Hotbits primary pipe has a smaller diameter to increase exhaust velocity producing the vacuum and scavenging effect on the intake valve, therefore drawing more fresh air and fuel into the combustion chamber to produce more power. However when u reach high rpm the air velocity out of the exhaust valve is high and the smaller diameter hotbits primary becomes a restriction to maintain gas flow.. However powerzone primary tube are bigger in diameter.. In effect low end torque isnt really much improve due to the primary pipe not playing a major role in scavenging, and it solely relies on the secondary tube to create the drawing effect.

As what samwongjyhhorng has mentioned. We LYNPPC did a TT session racing up genting and back down to kl last saturday. It has been proven that hotbits did have a restrictive effect on top speed but providing much better acceleration instead.  flex.gif
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hehe..high rpm(from 140-180) powerzone very shiok..low rpm(0-100) then is hotbits more syiok brows.gif


Added on April 11, 2011, 10:04 pm
QUOTE(jason4883 @ Apr 11 2011, 09:44 PM)
Sorry bro...have not heard bout this brand... May b others have.


Added on April 11, 2011, 9:46 pm

Thanks for the information.  Will put Powerzone 4-2-1 extractor in my consideration list when I am ready to upgrade aftermarket extractor.  rclxms.gif
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but i make clear 1st at here..powerzone extractor finishing not nicer than hotbits..i means u can c d welding point from outside,but hotbits one u cant c it bcoz is weld from inside..according powerzone people told me,weld from inside will a bit affect the air flow,but no sure whether is true or not..due to tis point,many of persona club member decide to change hotbits ady..for me is ok since the powerzone people has told me tis b4 i bought it..and is under the hood,so i dun mind it lo tongue.gif

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post Apr 11 2011, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 11 2011, 08:02 PM)
although hotbits and powerzone are the more famous brand among car enthusiast what about a cheaper brand like wegow? does that consider as cap ayam anyway?  unsure.gif I find that their stuff are well pack, mandrel bend and looks extremely fine.
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Wegow is cap malaysia one.. But the quality seems good.. Too bad its not available easily.

QUOTE(jason4883 @ Apr 11 2011, 09:44 PM)
Sorry bro...have not heard bout this brand... May b others have.


Added on April 11, 2011, 9:46 pm

Thanks for the information.  Will put Powerzone 4-2-1 extractor in my consideration list when I am ready to upgrade aftermarket extractor.   rclxms.gif
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LOL.. U want top end power? thumbup.gif


Added on April 11, 2011, 10:09 pm
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Apr 11 2011, 10:00 PM)
hehe..high rpm(from 140-180) powerzone very shiok..low rpm(0-100) then is hotbits more syiok brows.gif


Added on April 11, 2011, 10:04 pm

but i make clear 1st at here..powerzone extractor finishing not nicer than hotbits..i means u can c d welding point from outside,but hotbits one u cant c it bcoz is weld from inside..according powerzone people told me,weld from inside will a bit affect the air flow,but no sure whether is true or not..due to tis point,many of persona club member decide to change hotbits ady..for me is ok since the powerzone people has told me tis b4 i bought it..and is under the hood,so i dun mind it lo tongue.gif
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No lah.. we didnt change to hotbits cos it looks better lah.. We are trying to compensate more for the Campro's poor low end torque.. At high end there we got enough power to tapau the Myvi's and vios'es on the road.. flex.gif

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post Apr 11 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Apr 11 2011, 10:07 PM)
Wegow is cap malaysia one.. But the quality seems good.. Too bad its not available easily.
LOL.. U want top end power?  thumbup.gif


Added on April 11, 2011, 10:09 pm
No lah.. we didnt change to hotbits cos it looks better lah.. We are trying to compensate more for the Campro's poor low end torque.. At high end there we got enough power to tapau the Myvi's and vios'es on the road..  flex.gif
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oic..sori tat i misunderstanding tongue.gif so i need to try whether can tapau new city or forte at 140kmh above..hehe
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post Apr 11 2011, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Apr 11 2011, 10:07 PM)

LOL.. U want top end power?  thumbup.gif
I believe my pick up is fast enough, with my current setup. Now looking to improve my top end power. tongue.gif
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post Apr 12 2011, 12:48 AM

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okay guys,sorry for my late reply,so this is the scenario,today early morning me,my dad and my mum together we bring the car back to his workshop.Then my dad was also quite steady today morning,his tone was higher and temper was more hot yesterday,he didnt taruk him this morning except for my mum which gave him a few words -->my nasib malang lor,what to do,purposely let him hear 1,then my dad told him,okay lar,now argue what also no use,u promise me u seal it back,no problem.Please do it nicely,i dun want any problem ok,he said to my dad he warranty it,if any prob then he sure jia lat 1,we sure find him.

so the car is fixed,he's also lucky coz my dad is steady and no point also if quarell,coz he wouldnt want to pay,just talk cock like aunty uncle ah,if i change a new 1 hor,my foreman say wouldnt be better than now 1,i was like,of course lar coz u not changing the original denso for me.i told him got mark and scratches at the fan there,he keep asking where where?i tried to search but couldnt find,if take the radiator out i believe sure can find the mark and nut stuck at the radiator 1,then at about 1-2pm,my dad collected the car,so far no problem,then i called him,so how?what is the problem?i think he dare not say also,he just tell me dunno wor,my foreman couldnt find the prob also,i think he knows the truth dy,he's just hiding it from me coz what i say was right.

okay,so the part with the radiator is solved at the moment i think,actually i wanted to fight with him,no matter how also fight back the new radiator,but then,my dad have this thought also,if keep on quarelling,he dun admit then will keep wasting time,in the end we suffer coz no car use.He didnt even say sorry for your info and i think he dun have the $$$ to pay lor for the new radiator,my dad was steady anyway,my mum was kindda piss off,like want to chop him into few pieces coz is a new car.okay,then my dad tested the car,currently the car only have volt stabilizer and i did ask my fren to help me adjust the throttle sensitive through the pedal there b4,air filter still standard.He told me,not much diff,maybe a bit better only,so when i came back from work today,i tested,so so only the power.


Added on April 12, 2011, 1:01 amafter that i took the works engineering drop in air filter from my persona and place it in the saga fl to test it,me and my dad got a suprise,the car performs very good,got v-tec sound some more,no joke,we test and test,can tarik the rpm until 6.5,pick up was very good,tested with a wira modified exhaust also near my house,can manage to potong him,i tested it with my fren standard proton persona also,guess what?my fren lost to my saga fl in term of pick up till mid.is a 4-1 manifold,i want to ask,4-1 as far as i know is for top speed or drag,but this 4-1 if add drop in air filter totally perform like a diff car,why huh?pick up damn good,no joke.

my dad says this car now can save petrol 1,coz less power,u tekan more minyak,car got power,got pick up already,feels light at pedal,no need tekan so much so sure will save petrol 1.when the car reach 3.5k rpm then like got v-tec come out dy,hehe...just tarik till almost redline all the way,i think very fast already sampai 120-130km.overall he says he is satisfied with the performance,the barang is okay,but they really not pro in handling prob only.next time no more business for wai heng liao,i will go other place and do,also i will make sure the shop trustable 1,no more tepi jalan bah lia exhaust shop.


Added on April 12, 2011, 1:09 am
QUOTE(acbc @ Apr 11 2011, 10:44 AM)
You should have kept the car stock standard and drive around for few months before modding. As car still new, engine still tight and FC will be higher. FC will be better after 10000km and 2 service.
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bro,trust me,no matter how long you service,the car still will be the same,not much diff 1,already alot of ppl complaining proton cars very high fc,some ppl after mod get better fc?believe it or not?i got a malay fren,drive satria neo auto,no cps no nothing,normal campro,his mod is 4-2-1 exhaust,piping 2 inch,no muffler some more,middle i dunno lar,maybe 2 bullet,then use open port air filter,cam pulley,crank pully,ems 1 pro neo from works,his car can get near to 500km for full tank,that also he got tekan sometimes like racing mode,how to explain that?


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post Apr 12 2011, 01:11 AM

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post Apr 12 2011, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix2 @ Apr 11 2011, 05:59 PM)
R3 redesigned the exhaust to let the engine make more power. They have never mentioned any fuel savings. Don't be smart. Any Ah Beng shop cannot make exhaust system that can "guarantee" fuel savings. If there is, their advertisment would be "Tarak tipu, kereta laju, minyak pun setuju" U get what i mean? And which exhaust company claims fuel savings from an exhaust change?  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif What these guys do is copy other brands products and mass manufacture it with lower grade steel.

Original exhaust is the best. And do not need to teach anyone about engine pulse and cycle per combustion ok? The blardy book is so damn thick, exhaust making is a course by itself.
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bro,no offence k,i am ok with the ori exhaust,but what i am seeking here is a more smooth drive in the city especially with jam and etc.okay now we make a example,car 1,standard,car 2 mod air filter and manifold,if this 2 cars climb genting hill together,u think which car more power?more save petrol?letme tell u,i have experience it b4 myself,if u drive a standard car,sure no power,especially with the campro lagging at low end,even with iafm is crap,trust me,in the end,u keep tekan minyak,drop gear to 3,or maybe gear 2 ( this is for automatic k,both car 1 and 2 ) when u reach the last few corners.Whereas for car 2,u will feel the improvement,easy to climb hill,using d,all the way up,only until u reach more than halfway u might need to drop to gear 3,depends ok but still u only tekan a bit minyak the car u feel can climb,not like car 1,have to tekan and tekan also no go 1,jia lat lor like that,the minyak all wasted coz u keep tekan and tekan ma,no power,i've tried it,the after and b4 mod feel up to genting and the fc also,that was with my persona,with 4 ppl in it.


Added on April 12, 2011, 1:22 am
QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 12 2011, 01:11 AM)
Mind if I ask how old are you?
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28 years old.why?

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post Apr 12 2011, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 12 2011, 01:11 AM)
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I like your question. smile.gif
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post Apr 12 2011, 01:29 AM

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[quote=ZenGTMM,Apr 11 2011, 11:35 AM]
Ori exhaust are restricted to comply with emission standards imposed. Restriction do reduce power, but with lesser power, higher acceleration is needed to speed up and higher amount of throttle opening is required to reach the speed intended. With better flowing exhaust, more power is produced at the same speed, so lesser acceleration is needed to maintain speed while cruising. Just my 1ringgit 90cents of opinion. notworthy.gif
Nvm.. Knowledge is power, just sharing what i learnt here.. icon_rolleyes.gif

bro i agree with u,coz the ori exhaust is restricted,that's why boh power,not smooth enough.my own proton persona also with 4-2-1,piping 2 inch and 2 bullet + s-flow muffler,much better than b4,no regret,really.Just this time so unlucky with the saga fl sad.gif
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QUOTE(Kent Goh @ Apr 12 2011, 02:26 AM)
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post Apr 12 2011, 01:45 AM

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I would said exhaust setup will be the last modification and depends on your driving style. I wish i can get some branded exhaust like Tanabe, HKS which calculation by professional but unfortunately its impossible.

The diameter of exhaust pipe, angle, distance, sensor locating, resonator & etc will cause different result. But this is not very important for most malaysian & most important is the price are cheap or reasonable.
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Apr 12 2011, 01:11 AM)
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Andy... u veli veli bad boy hahahahaha

Geezzzz i seriously need to find exhaust shop coz my extractor pecah edi need to repair... Went to Jaafar... he say need to put the car there for a day or 2 coz need to cabut the whole thingy....
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Works engineering drop in air filter has got some good publicity out of this shit. LOL.

Though TS said no joke but i think it'll be quite a serious joke to say that a mere drop in air filter will make the car perform differently. LOL....
Man....vtec power? WAh...i believe it man.

vtec power? hahahaha
don't overestimate performance air filter.
And....ur saga fl got a headstart as compared to your frd's persona may be very well due to your car's lighter weight..........


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QUOTE(Zaypher @ Apr 23 2011, 12:43 PM)
Works engineering drop in air filter has got some good publicity out of this shit. LOL.

Though TS said no joke but i think it'll be quite a serious joke to say that a mere drop in air filter will make the car perform differently. LOL....
Man....vtec power? WAh...i believe it man.

vtec power? hahahaha
don't overestimate performance air filter.
And....ur saga fl got a headstart as compared to your frd's persona may be very well due to your car's lighter weight..........
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lulzzz... TS, so your Saga can go over 190km/h or not???
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Bro; if u read k&n or simota web; u can see that they guarantee performance increase with their drop in filter when compared to stock oem cotton; i myself can atest to that
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ts is so funny. fyi, it was the campro 1.3 iafm sound which is more like a 'whining' sound in higher rpm.
as time goes by, the sound will become louder until your iafm(module) need to be replaced.
and its normal for campro auto engine to rev up to 6.5k especially when going uphill before gear change.
btw, even the campro cps cam opening does not produce any sound like vtec or nissan's n1.

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 23 2011, 01:39 PM)
Bro; if u read k&n or simota web; u can see that they guarantee performance increase with their drop in filter when compared to stock oem cotton; i myself can atest to that
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put it on dyno, as in proper dyno machine instead of using your butt to dyno...
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butt dyno will always give an increased power feel due to the money that you have spent...
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Apr 23 2011, 02:37 PM)
ts is so funny.  fyi, it was the campro 1.3 iafm sound which is more like a 'whining' sound in higher rpm.
as time goes by, the sound will become louder until your iafm(module) need to be replaced.
and its normal for campro auto engine to rev up to 6.5k especially when going uphill before gear change.
btw, even the campro cps cam opening does not produce any sound like vtec or nissan's n1.
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Thats because cps only have variable lift on the intake, vtec got both on the intake and exhaust, hence the unique pranggg exhaust sound.

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