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samwongjyhhorng
post Jun 12 2011, 04:12 PM

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my car is persona elegance..i intend wanna install alpine type g component set and add one 4channel amp in my car..is it ok?my player and rear speaker will remain stock..
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post Jun 12 2011, 10:24 PM

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I install mb quart component speker for front than the shop ask me to install another com speaker same brand but dif model at the back speaker is it necessary to have both front and back comp speaker it cost me rm1800 for 2 pair of speaker. Is it ok or not necessary if not maybe i instal the other comp speaker in my wife car.

after i change speaker still dint satisfied with the sound and i changed the hu to 2 din pioneer and it came with free 2 chan amp. Should i changed it to 4 channel to get better sq. I drive grand livina.

Thank you in advanced.
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post Jun 12 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(zulmlm @ Jun 12 2011, 10:24 PM)
I install mb quart component speker for front than the shop ask me to install another com speaker same brand but dif model at the back speaker is it necessary to have both front and back comp speaker it cost me rm1800 for 2 pair of speaker. Is it ok or not necessary if not maybe i instal the other comp speaker in my wife car.

after i change speaker still dint satisfied with the sound and i changed the hu to 2 din pioneer and it came with free 2 chan amp. Should i changed it to 4 channel to get better sq. I drive grand livina.

Thank you in advanced.
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Bro, you bought new 2 din HU and free 2ch amp?

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post Jun 13 2011, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 12 2011, 04:12 PM)
my car is persona elegance..i intend wanna install alpine type g component set and add one 4channel amp in my car..is it ok?my player and rear speaker will remain stock..
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i am not sure about the sound, but from the spec sheet, it give u 68hz-20khz freq response...anything below 68 will be inaudible. this is crucial if u wan a better sound


Added on June 13, 2011, 12:54 am
QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jun 12 2011, 11:40 PM)
Bro, you bought new 2 din HU and free 2ch amp?
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well that's a pioneer 4250/4350 with free 2ch amp package i think....

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post Jun 13 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(zulmlm @ Jun 12 2011, 10:24 PM)
I install mb quart component speker for front than the shop ask me to install another com speaker same brand but dif model at the back speaker is it necessary to have both front and back comp speaker it cost me rm1800 for 2 pair of speaker. Is it ok or not necessary if not maybe i instal the other comp speaker in my wife car.

after i change speaker still dint satisfied with the sound and i changed the hu to 2 din pioneer and it came with free 2 chan amp. Should i changed it to 4 channel to get better sq. I drive grand livina.

Thank you in advanced.
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not necessary for rear speakers, most good SQ sound systems dont even have any rear speakers. just concentrate your budget on the front speakers.
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post Jun 13 2011, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jun 13 2011, 12:49 AM)
i am not sure about the sound, but from the spec sheet, it give u 68hz-20khz freq response...anything below 68 will be inaudible. this is crucial if u wan a better sound


Added on June 13, 2011, 12:54 am
well that's a pioneer 4250/4350 with free 2ch amp package i think....
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oic..so wat is d component speaker tat u reccomend for below RM500?
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post Jun 13 2011, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 01:44 PM)
oic..so wat is d component speaker tat u reccomend for below RM500?
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my recommendation is save up for more budget...
then get a better component set which you don't have to change anymore in near future...
you will end up saving more than keep buying and changing. smile.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(zacisme @ Jun 13 2011, 03:26 PM)
my recommendation is save up for more budget...
then get a better component set which you don't have to change anymore in near future...
you will end up saving more than keep buying and changing.  smile.gif
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same like what i told u :>
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post Jun 13 2011, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Jun 13 2011, 03:36 PM)
same like what i told u :>
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indeed... rclxms.gif
samwongjyhhorng
post Jun 13 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(zacisme @ Jun 13 2011, 03:26 PM)
my recommendation is save up for more budget...
then get a better component set which you don't have to change anymore in near future...
you will end up saving more than keep buying and changing.  smile.gif
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but i reali dun wan install tat RM500 above one lo..i'm not focus to play ice..i juz wan more clear sound than stock lo..
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post Jun 13 2011, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 05:25 PM)
but i reali dun wan install tat RM500 above one lo..i'm not focus to play ice..i juz wan more clear sound than stock lo..
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mind to try 2nd mid /high end speaker?? as we know mid /high end speaker may give us better sound and frequency respone, you may try to get some mid / high end 2nd or may 3rd hand speaker which is within your budget since you are not too forcus on the "pro ICE"... I would said it may worth than you take some lousy/ low end speaker with that budget.

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post Jun 13 2011, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(shinigami Ichigo @ Jun 13 2011, 05:32 PM)
mind to try 2nd mid /high end speaker?? as we know mid /high end speaker may give us better sound and frequency respone,  you may try to get some mid / high end 2nd or may 3rd hand speaker which is within your budget since you are not too forcus on the "pro ICE"... I would said it may worth than you take some lousy/ low end speaker with that budget.
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example wat brand?i can accept 2nd hand as long its in good condition
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post Jun 13 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 05:25 PM)
but i reali dun wan install tat RM500 above one lo..i'm not focus to play ice..i juz wan more clear sound than stock lo..
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suggestion from shinigami is another good option smile.gif
When i first started, i also think that no need spend too much, just slightly better will do...
but human lust is unlimited...

If u just wan slightly better sound, can replace your stock hu with entry level hu below 500
it serves better than factory hu + entry speaker
you can save some money on speaker wiring and installation cost rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 05:47 PM)
example wat brand?i can accept 2nd hand as long its in good condition
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that could be a lot ot 2nd hand mid/high end speaker in the market, especially for those senior Icer, try to join them for TT, sometime they may let you know they want to sell off their current setup due to upgrading their ICE...

Frankly, i can't just simply recommend the speaker for you, because it would be different speaker different nature. the speaker that i recommend to you may not suit you, just like some ppl like BM but some like Benz...!!!

or maybe just wait for some sifu over here to guide you more....!!!
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post Jun 13 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 05:47 PM)
example wat brand?i can accept 2nd hand as long its in good condition
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entry level vifa, domination, davis, flux are the speaker i audited before
quite good even driven by HU itself (p80/9887)
i believe there should have some other brand as well, but i dare not comment without audit. laugh.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 05:25 PM)
but i reali dun wan install tat RM500 above one lo..i'm not focus to play ice..i juz wan more clear sound than stock lo..
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go find some 2nd hand entry level component set. including installation im sure it would be around or even below rm500.
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 05:25 PM)
but i reali dun wan install tat RM500 above one lo..i'm not focus to play ice..i juz wan more clear sound than stock lo..
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I guess most of the forumers here will agree that changing to a below RM500 set, might not get you significant improvement over stock, in another word might as well just stay stock.

Of course used units are an option, but be careful when choosing one. Make sure it is working properly. smile.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Jun 13 2011, 06:12 PM)
I guess most of the forumers here will agree that changing to a below RM500 set, might not get you significant improvement over stock, in another word might as well just stay stock.

Of course used units are an option, but be careful when choosing one. Make sure it is working properly.  smile.gif
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very agree your statement....i would say better remian the same rather that waste money but can't get significant improvement on the ICE.... rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif
samwongjyhhorng
post Jun 13 2011, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(zacisme @ Jun 13 2011, 05:52 PM)
suggestion from shinigami is another good option  smile.gif
When i first started, i also think that no need spend too much, just slightly better will do...
but human lust is unlimited...

If u just wan slightly better sound, can replace your stock hu with entry level hu below 500
it serves better than factory hu + entry speaker
you can save some money on speaker wiring and installation cost  rolleyes.gif
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but after i change HU then my steering control cant function ady lo cry.gif
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post Jun 13 2011, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jun 13 2011, 07:55 PM)
but after i change HU then my steering control cant function ady lo cry.gif
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To be honest, the choice is yours smile.gif
for me, i wont compromise on quality of sound reproduction
so steering control is nth for me... i use remote most of the time...

Also, there are two kind of products can counter your issue:
1. A black box thingy which connect your steering control to your aftermarket hu
but not all aftermarket hu can be supported

2. A universal steering wheel control which able to duplicate and transmit the same signal as your remote
as long as your hu comes with a remote, it can be done...

But i'm not sure about the brand or price, so got the info while browsing mags
so let other sifu to assist you then laugh.gif

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