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TSazsace
post Aug 24 2011, 12:10 PM

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Oh yeah... ipoh dont have carrefour, so i guess need to find the 32 LG TV elsewhere... (i can easily find the 42 size here... hmmm, the LW4500 series)

My initial plan was to get the pana 32" DT30, but pity its not selling here
and since the sharp new LE830 3d experience also good, i wanted to get that, but again no 32 size

im still reserving for the 27" samsung 9series pc monitor, but if i get this, i will wait until nvidia release a driver to fully support this monitor...


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post Aug 24 2011, 10:56 PM

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Kinda doubt NVIDIA will support the samsung...since it's siding with the ATI camp. If open 3D drivers win (RealD, DDD, iZ3D) then nvidia will have no choice but to follow suit. For now they are only interested in locking down their 3D ecosystem to Geforce and their Vision kit.

Somehow I don't think this will go down well with consumers. On the other hand ATI/AMD have just joined the 3D fray as recent as the HD 6800 series while NVIDIA has toyed around with offering 3D content for awhile now.

Gaming on the 27" would be good though...virtually no input lag and fast response time, at the expense of using TN instead of IPS screen.
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post Aug 24 2011, 11:44 PM

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If for gaming, better buy the Acer 27" 3D with Nvidia 3d....heard will be available end of the month.

If you can wait, the Sony 24" 3D for the Playstation is the best (on paper)

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/sonys-2...first-hands-on/
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post Aug 25 2011, 04:09 PM

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Ive learned a lot of info from this thread. thx.

Im eyeing the LG 42LW4500, selling at 3199 at Harvey Norman Mid Valley. Usuall free gifts are the party pack and a Tangled 3d Bluray.

Regarding the horizontal resolution, apparently theres going to be an update to the firmware for all the models (4500,5700,6500) that handles this.

just forwarding the info in case anyones interested:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1313938337
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post Aug 26 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(plankton @ Aug 25 2011, 04:09 PM)
Ive learned a lot of info from this thread. thx.

Im eyeing the LG 42LW4500, selling at 3199 at Harvey Norman Mid Valley. Usuall free gifts are the party pack and a Tangled 3d Bluray.

Regarding the horizontal resolution, apparently theres going to be an update to the firmware for all the models (4500,5700,6500) that handles this.

just forwarding the info in case anyones interested:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1313938337
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LW4500, definitely one of the better 3DTV for home usage. with the party pack, overall if im not mistaken u'll have 7 3d glasses... wow.. me so jealous... u can share ur 3d experience with so many people

yep.. read the review, not bad, seems they have improve the "scanning/window blind" effect... and also notice from the review, u need to increase the viewing distance a bit, but thats not a major issues...

oh yeah, since u getting this TV and if use it to play some games, do give comment on its input lag, personally, do u think its noticeable?... one of the reason why I dont actually want to get this TV is only because of this issues...

And seriously, does this TV has the 32" size... i did try to look for it... mana jumpa... (if KL, easy to find this TV ka, since im planning to go to KL and look at the samsung 27 3D monitor)

Oh yeah, i think i need to update my post.. some people ask whether I regret buying my PS51D490... for 3D viewing, i strongly believe this is the best value 3DTV so far...
Currently this TV u can get less than rm4k,
Picture quality great
Size, 51", a very reasonable size, very satisfy to watch it
3D viewing, superb (PSXXD6900 and above series is a just a bit better, to untrained eye, maybe wont notice the difference)
HD content looks marvelous
SD content looks good
Glaring 5ucks, but with anti screen filter, not an issue anymore

and the big question... whats my regret..
simple, i cant actually use it to watch 3dmovies since, if want to watch a 3d movie, i need to hav at least 3 glasses (1 for me, 1 for wifey n other 1 for kid) so far i only hav 2... and this active glasses is kinda expensive, cheapest i can find was rm249
n once in a while during friend and family gathering (for movie), i need more.. most of the time i need 5 glasses, occasionally need 7, rarely 9. if i get another 3, i need to spend around rm750... n that just for the glasses...
if im not mistaken, official price for this glass is rm449...

This post has been edited by azsace: Aug 26 2011, 11:29 AM
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post Aug 26 2011, 01:50 PM

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don't waste your time trying to look for Samsung 27" 3D monitor for demo....they have no demo unit to demo (all inside boxes).....they do have the 23" 3D open box (but no 3d glasses to test).....


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post Aug 26 2011, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(plankton @ Aug 25 2011, 04:09 PM)
Ive learned a lot of info from this thread. thx.

Im eyeing the LG 42LW4500, selling at 3199 at Harvey Norman Mid Valley. Usuall free gifts are the party pack and a Tangled 3d Bluray.

Regarding the horizontal resolution, apparently theres going to be an update to the firmware for all the models (4500,5700,6500) that handles this.

just forwarding the info in case anyones interested:

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1313938337
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I thought 42LW4500 more than RM4000?

If then my purchase of 42LX6500 at RM3999 on february is a waste!
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post Aug 26 2011, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(mcat84 @ Aug 26 2011, 01:50 PM)
don't waste your time trying to look for Samsung 27" 3D monitor for demo....they have no demo unit to demo (all inside boxes).....they do have the 23" 3D open box (but no 3d glasses to test).....
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well, thanks for the advise... perhaps i can at least try the 23"
did look around on some reviews on this monitor... bad news.. no good/convincing review so far... perhaps i should wait until another year to get a second tv for my house...

but kinda hard, since i njoy 3d gaming so much... hard to go back...
side note: ps3 is not actually a good 3d gaming machine, not many 3d title..
but if pc.. fuiyo, almost all game is 3d... even the good old games


Added on August 26, 2011, 8:35 pm
QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 26 2011, 06:55 PM)
I thought 42LW4500 more than RM4000?

If then my purchase of 42LX6500 at RM3999 on february is a waste!
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perhaps u should think it another way.. u manage to get urself a good led tv...


This post has been edited by azsace: Aug 26 2011, 08:35 PM
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post Aug 29 2011, 12:58 PM

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Hi..

Did you call the idiots at LG malaysia to find out if there is a firmware update for the 42LW4500?
The last time i called them,they did not even know what "firmware" was..


QUOTE(azsace @ Aug 26 2011, 08:33 PM)
well, thanks for the advise... perhaps i can at least try the 23"
did look around on some reviews on this monitor... bad news.. no good/convincing review so far... perhaps i should wait until another year to get a second tv for my house...

but kinda hard, since i njoy 3d gaming so much... hard to go back...
side note: ps3 is not actually a good 3d gaming machine, not many 3d title..
but if pc.. fuiyo, almost all game is 3d... even the good old games


Added on August 26, 2011, 8:35 pm

perhaps u should think it another way.. u manage to get urself a good led tv...
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post Aug 29 2011, 01:23 PM

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hi bro,

the 42LW4500 is a new model (firmware is the latest now), the firmware should be v4.00.xx...........i have the 32LW4500, the firmware version is v4.00.xx


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QUOTE(azsace @ Aug 26 2011, 08:33 PM)


perhaps u should think it another way.. u manage to get urself a good led tv...
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what good led tv? that TV has a 3D Crosstalk problem!
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post Aug 30 2011, 05:57 PM

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Hi azsace,

I was searching for info on the LG PV250 when I stumbled on this thread and only after reading it I realised you are from Ipoh so I think you will probably be the best person to help me since I am also from Ipoh.

I'm shopping for a 50" plasma TV and actually don't care about 3D content at this time. Usage will mostly consist of watching Astro (in HD if possible, usually for football, AXN, etc), movies/series/anime via media player (720p/1080p stuff), and console gaming (PS3). I also usually only watch TV at night so hopefully the reflection issue is not so bad (but I usually do have downlights in the room on)

From the reading I have done so far, most people say that even if I don't want to use it with 3D content, many current 3D TVs will give better picture quality for 2D content compared to non-3D TVs.

So, what would you recommend I get? I was originally considering the Panasonic 50U30K, but was also recommended the LG PV250. Both are less than RM3K now. I can probably go up to RM6K in terms of budget but don't want to spend for unnecessary features (read: 3D, which I know is ironic seeing as I am asking in a thread about 3D stuff tongue.gif). I don't mind doing so for better picture quality.

Also, any recommendation on where to do my shopping in Ipoh?

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post Sep 3 2011, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Fyrekat @ Aug 30 2011, 05:57 PM)
Hi azsace,

I was searching for info on the LG PV250 when I stumbled on this thread and only after reading it I realised you are from Ipoh so I think you will probably be the best person to help me since I am also from Ipoh.

I'm shopping for a 50" plasma TV and actually don't care about 3D content at this time. Usage will mostly consist of watching Astro (in HD if possible, usually for football, AXN, etc), movies/series/anime via media player (720p/1080p stuff), and console gaming (PS3). I also usually only watch TV at night so hopefully the reflection issue is not so bad (but I usually do have downlights in the room on)

From the reading I have done so far, most people say that even if I don't want to use it with 3D content, many current 3D TVs will give better picture quality for 2D content compared to non-3D TVs.

So, what would you recommend I get? I was originally considering the Panasonic 50U30K, but was also recommended the LG PV250. Both are less than RM3K now. I can probably go up to RM6K in terms of budget but don't want to spend for unnecessary features (read: 3D, which I know is ironic seeing as I am asking in a thread about 3D stuff tongue.gif). I don't mind doing so for better picture quality.

Also, any recommendation on where to do my shopping in Ipoh?
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Well... if u want to shop for TV its depend on the manufacturer.. for pana would recommend the panashop near to jusco...
for samsung n lg would recommend the shop near the mcD (at the entry to PLUS highway, jusco area also, near brother car accessories)
do nego on the price.. cause usually the first price they quote a bit higher...
PV250 has an AR filter (if u turn off the TV u notive its look a bit greenish)... which is a plus,
anyway... another TV I would recommned for u to look/view is the samsung PS51D6900... If I dont mind spending rm5.5k, definitely this is the TV i would get... dont buy it if its more than that.. n if u good u can get it for rm5199 or even cheaper...

This post has been edited by azsace: Sep 3 2011, 08:33 AM
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samsung 46" 6series LED 3d smart tv are they good??
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post Sep 3 2011, 11:47 AM

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postponing my purchase for now. gonna hang on to my crt tv for a little longer smile.gif
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post Sep 3 2011, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(thereefster @ Sep 3 2011, 09:17 AM)
samsung 46" 6series LED 3d smart tv are they good??
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personally i feel this led 3dtv is not good. so far only sharp le830 is worth buying if u wana look for led 3dtv...

but again.. trust ur eyes.. n do a comparison with at least the ps51d6900... price not much different also..


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QUOTE(plankton @ Sep 3 2011, 11:47 AM)
postponing my purchase for now. gonna hang on to my crt tv for a little longer smile.gif
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hmm.. not a bad choice.. if u can postpone till u can find the tv to ur liking.. better hold it.. me also take around 4months til i purchase my tv... better wait than regret

This post has been edited by azsace: Sep 3 2011, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(azsace @ Sep 3 2011, 08:32 AM)
Well... if u want to shop for TV its depend on the manufacturer.. for pana would recommend the panashop near to jusco...
for samsung n lg would recommend the shop near the mcD (at the entry to PLUS highway, jusco area also, near brother car accessories)
do nego on the price.. cause usually the first price they quote a bit higher...
PV250 has an AR filter (if u turn off the TV u notive its look a bit greenish)... which is a plus,
anyway... another TV I would recommned for u to look/view is the samsung PS51D6900... If I dont mind spending rm5.5k, definitely this is the TV i would get... dont buy it if its more than that.. n if u good u can get it for rm5199 or even cheaper...
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Thanks for the advice, I'll check it out smile.gif
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how about LG 42" 3D plasma tv (42pw450)?
is pretty cheap now...
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post Sep 15 2011, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(quezone @ Sep 14 2011, 12:39 AM)
how about LG 42" 3D plasma tv (42pw450)?
is pretty cheap now...
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Yep... its pretty cheap now
This tv has a resolution of 1024X768. If u want to connect this TV to a PC... would not recommend to buy it...

On 3D performance, it reasonably good. this is one of the TV which I compared with my TV... the 3D performance is less compared to PS51D490... (but its better compared to most last year model)... I would say its 3d performance significantly better if compared to most 3d LED tv...

another tv with a bit more price (just slight diff) is samsung PS43D490 (also 1024X768 resolution)...

my recommendation if its for 42" 3dtv, i would go for, LG 42LW4500, passive TV, but it cost more than 3k.. less than 3.5k , make sure u get at least 7passive 3d glasses with it (wow... now this TV the price is really cheap, can get for rm2999)

btw.. for 3d, its for movie or for games?

This post has been edited by azsace: Sep 16 2011, 10:54 AM
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Just want to share an interesting article regarding 3D Technology by Dr. Raymond Soneira of DisplayMate Technologies.

http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm

and here summaries from Gizmodo

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Based on our extensive lab measurements and visual test comparisons between 3D TVs with FPR Passive Glasses versus 3D TVs with Active Shutter Glasses, we found that the Passive Glasses TVs delivered substantially and demonstrably better all around 3D imaging, 3D Contrast and sense of 3D depth, better 3D sharpness, better overall 3D picture quality, immersion and realism, and freedom from 3D ghosting, image Crosstalk, and flicker. This was true in all but a small number of situations, all of which we document in the sections mentioned above.


A good read for those (like me) who are still undecided whether to take a dive or not brows.gif

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