For those waiting for glasses free 3D TV, check out this article:
http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/122308

first thanks for the in-depth explanation of 3DTV in here bro. Really solved and cleared a lot of my doubts and questions. As I am initially wanted to purchased Panny's P50U30K now I am tempted to go for LG's 50PW450. I can get the same price for them both at 3.3K.

Panny has Full HD where as LG comes with 3D but HD Ready. As you mentioned FHD not worthwhile if I am sitting further away since we can't really differentiate it. FYI, I am sitting around 4m away. So I assume that it's not an issue here for HD or Full HD right?

LG has higher resolution too with 3M:1 as opposed to 2M:1 by Panny. But is this a significant issue? Can we really notice that? Any opinion on this two models bro? Thanks a lot in advance.

This post has been edited by stevenycs: Jul 18 2011, 02:14 PM

Hmmm... im not sure whether glasses free 3DTV going to be good... since it cant actually create the 3d effect like glasses 3d..
perhaps when this technology is matured, people already introduce holographic TV... hhahahah

perhaps i should put my thoughts on my nintendo 3ds... hmmm

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Added on July 20, 2011, 10:14 amJust to let you know... full HD and HD ready panel is the last criteria you should think when buying a TV (for 50" and below). The thing that come first is the picture quality such as in contrast and the color reproduction

Things I dont like about the LG, the resolution of this panel is only 1024X768... since this TV is basically a native 4:3 TV.. but they make it be a 16:9 TV by using rectangular pixels. To me, this is really really a big issues, but to others this may not be since it hard to differentiate the stretching effect on the TV (definitely better not buy this if u hav a slightest idea to connect to a vga input)

Things i like bout this TV, it has slightly less glaring/reflection compared to other low-end plasma (seems that LG is the only manufacturer put a basic Anti Reflection Coating on their low end plasma, but take note, their ARC is not that good also, thats y i say slightly less)

Things I like bout the Pana, it uses the new G14 panel technology, well not all, but the main thing it uses the faster phosphor as ST30, GT30 n VT30 (without the ARC, infinite black/pro, excitation technique). Thus this TV has a very good motion handling for images/videos. Again Full HD is not really important...

The 3D, I wont recommend to people wanted to use solely to watch 3D movie.. for now, for 3D gaming yes... And for your information.. my 3DTV.. I have stopped watching 3D movies.. two glasses not enough... i forget that when usually watch movie, they will be more than 2 people.

Bout the contrast, is it really important.. yes.. definitely, but contrast and brightness have to be seen in pair with brightness... for both TV, contrast n brightness wont be an issues...

Oh yeah, i was thinking to ask you to look at the Samsung PS51D450 as well... but its hard to get this TV for less than RM3k... you can, if u look hard enough n with Raya is coming u might be lucky... (Wont be a problem if u search within low yat seller)

If I hav RM3.3k, and manage to find the PS51D450 less than RM3k, i'll get this TV and will use the rm300 to get a good anti reflection screen.

between the two choices u've given, I'll get the Pana. and to let u know, depending on ur room condition, reflection may be an issue

This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 20 2011, 10:47 AM

Thanks again for the in depth explanation bro. Actually I had wrong info from one of the shop which tells me that the PW450 runs on passive 3D tech. Which is why I was tempted to go for that. But since another shop had explained to me that all plasma (from LG) still uses Active (passive only on LED), I had decided to go back to U30K.

But I'd also found out that LG's PV250 had just been released. Or so, the sales guy managed to get a pricing for me (3.7K). It's their new 50" FHD Plasma. The contrast is 3M:1 as of U30K 2M:1 and an additonal HDMI. Again, is that dynamic contrast ration makes any difference? Cause I read some where and even the sales guy told me that, anything above 2M DRC, you won't be able to tell the difference. Is it true? Any chance of reviewing LG's PV250 yet? hehe!

Side note: Not really into Samsung actually. Some one did offered me their 5 Series (forgot the model) FHD Plasma. But I think it's around 4.3K or so. And my friend told me their service sucks. So a bit reluctant. And better got for higher series like 6 and above? Well if I have the money of course. haha!

cant really tell you... I have a PW450 and it is great experience.. the 3D is good the 3D glasses you can bargain for RM180+- which is not expensive

compare to passive the glasses a little heavy but good as it uses RF insted of IR for signal so far no loss of signal and it is very fast...

but still expensive la the glasses. initially i tot it's passive so can get a lot (9pcs). now can only have 2 glasses.

is the flickering lesser? But now I most probably wait for PV250 and compare to U30K ..

of course cant compare to passive laaaa...

but FYI passsive 3D Tv cut resolution by 1/2 so you are not really watching HD in 3D

Hi all,

I have "problem" that hope someone here would help me...

Currently using P42GT20K Panasonic 3D Plasma, while watching 3D Blu-ray disc,
my remote control become unresponsive, very difficult controlling BD player.
The problem may describe better here by others.
Although not exactly the same problem, but it is the closest I can find.
Apparently, the culprit is the TV itself, interfering IR signals or something...

Then I bought a Logitech Harmony universal remote control which uses RF to communicate,
and I installed the RF to IR blaster close to BD player.
I can't notice any different, I still have problem starting the movie from BD menu!
(Cannot send [OK] command to BD player to start movie from disc menu)

With Logitech's IR blaster close to BD player, I found it will work better if I block the front panel of BD player.
Leaving Logitech's IR blaster "sees" the BD player and block out other interfering signal.
But this is not the proper way to enjoy a movie...

My BD player and TV does not have direct "line of sight".
TV is on table top of the cabinet and BD player sit inside the shelf (no door).
The IR transmitter on the TV (for 3D Glass) needs to do a sharp "U-turn" only it can reach my BD player.
How can it still interfere the remote IR signal?

Does anyone already have the solution or fix to this problem?
Really need your help, please~!

ya I realized that, cause active still using 1080 on each eye but passive cut down to half 540 on each eye hence the no flicker on passive.

but a lot of people said they don't really saw the diff just mentality u know it's not 1080 only.

anyway, now gonna test out the new PV250 before deciding on the U30K. Megatex coming soon, hopefully they are showing it there

I havent demoed the LG tv yet, to tell the truth, i havent actually seen this TV yet....
well... the seller did make a good point, its hard to distinguish between a 3M:1 contrast and 2M:1. the brightness is more important...

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Added on July 24, 2011, 7:06 pmoh yeah... for the LG passive 3DTV,, if the size is bigger like 55", u can actually notice the half resolution... n some sort of window blind effect

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Added on July 24, 2011, 7:06 pmoh yeah... for the LG passive 3DTV,, if the size is bigger like 55", u can actually notice the half resolution... n some sort of window blind effect



This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 24 2011, 07:06 PM

to tell u the truth, i haven't seen the PV250 too. Just on catalogue. so when the guy told me he got the pricing, it surprised me. but too date, i didn't saw any place displaying the unit

brightness as in how bright the setting it can go? or? I wanted to try the reflection on both the unit actually. but it's pretty hard unless they are setting it side by side.

oh yeah... the good thing bout LG, some of the basic model, do have the anti reflection coating...
so.. most likely the PV250 hav it as well...

I have finally have a chance to test out Cinema 3D by LG...

verdict

1. Very impressive.... no flicker my eye is so relax and seeing 3D with no headache -- this is the BEST!!!
2. Yes Cinema 3D do cut the resolution in half... I notice the 3D is softer compare to my 3D Plasma... so inorder to fully satisfy your viewing experience you now need to sit further from the TV else you will notice softness -- not so good..
3. normal 2D make no difference -- neutral
4. Price is RM6K so a little on the expensive side but hey it will become cheaper
5. GLASSES SUPER CHEAP and SUPER LIGHT!!! -- AWESOME!!!

Yes, I am sure it come with the anti reflection coating too.

But not going to get it since already decided to go with U30K now.

Price went down another few hundred

Thanks for all the good replies bro~ ur the man

No worries.. glad to help...
So, how do u like the TV...
What do u think.. does the reflection annoyed u or u didnt notice it???

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Added on July 29, 2011, 10:10 amWhat size did u manage to test? Do try the 55" size.. does the "window blind" effect annoyed u (noticeable when u watch it around 2.5m distance


This post has been edited by azsace: Jul 29 2011, 10:10 AM

I'm bought the LG 55LW6500 model last week, Passive 3D effect is impressive. "Window blind" effect is noticeable but not annoyed me because i'm enjoying the show more than the minor details of the it. But please take notes you have to keep some distance from the TV to your seating, because this is a 55" panel!!! Magic motion controller is one of the best experience on nagivating among these smart tv nowaday. Built-in media player is fast and responsive, tried on playing MKV via USB and my NAS - smooth experience. Next thing is the geta ARC compatible AVR so that audio can be fall back to the AVR.

[quote=azsace,Jul 29 2011, 10:08 AM]
No worries.. glad to help...
So, how do u like the TV...
What do u think.. does the reflection annoyed u or u didnt notice it???


Actually not really if U dun pay any attention to it. if you are watching BD it's really really good but once someone tell u bout some reflection on it, u will start to get annoyed at some point. but from the location of my plasma, i guess it's better since it's away from the sliding door.

Yep the 55" the wondow blind effect wont have you notice if you wear those glasses... the issue is there is softness around the edge and hair... although I like the comfort of the glass and no stress towards my eyeball (due to flickering) I still cant take the fact that the overall picture is quite soft... the colour is good just the edge...

I was messing around with my new 50U30K and found out that even though the have this Normal, Dynamic, Cinema, True Cinema and Game, but all the settings are the same at Default. I thought they have preset the settings already according with those viewing options.

Anyone know how to do a calibration setting on those viewing? I heard there are demo/calibration DVD to download to do, is it?

Hmmm.. you can look for this
HDTV Calibration Wizard