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 Credit Card v15, Ask general questions here, Please read the 1st post before posting

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post Mar 7 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(Alec.Yong @ Mar 7 2011, 11:32 PM)
5x?

I thought it's,
RM1.00 = 1 Enrich Miles (overseas)
RM2.00 = 1 Enrich Miles (local)

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Read the point system again Alec ... I assume you have the card.

Overseas transaction 5x points and conversion to Enrich points is 5:1 - 1 Enrich point
Local transactions every RM2 spending ... you will get 5 points. Again the conversion to Enrich is 5:1 - 1 Enrich points.
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post Mar 8 2011, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Mar 8 2011, 08:25 AM)
no,it can combine to any purchases to meet the min amount regardless of shell product.
it kinda sucks but its a way for them to force u to use their card so u get more rebates on the petrol
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They are not forcing you in any way. (I'm just correcting as every time someone is unhappy with the bank something like this happens ... sigh)
It all depends on the consumer whether they will be taken in with the promo. The consumer has the power to decide ... banks can't force you to use their card.
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post Mar 8 2011, 08:52 AM

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Just asking anyone has this experience ...

I'm attempting to do a hotel booking via Agoda and at the payment page, I'm presented with 2 options. The site asked me whether I wish to be billed in RM or in USD.

Will I be charged the overseas transaction rate if I choose RM ? (Agoda is not based in Malaysia)
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post Mar 8 2011, 09:28 AM

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Thank you alexwsk and milentechie!
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post Mar 8 2011, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Mar 8 2011, 10:58 AM)
wow, u guys are good and thanks for the info.
i did notice tht if u use is for currency which involves more zeros  like jpYen ,rupiah ,baht, the rates(still high) are quite comparable to the rates tht u get from money exchangers. but if use it on SG, Euoro countries, very high.
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I'm not sure where you derived such idea but forex exchanges are regulated and what you say is very misleading and confusing to those who have no idea about forex. (Again ... I'm being honest and straight forward and not commenting on anyone's intelligence. I have regular fans who is ready to blast me and read my post religiously wink.gif ) If what you say is true then please provide proof of your statement which is normally your actual cc charged against daily market forex rates.

The guys who share their information here have used their cards in most countries around the world. And we compared it against MBB daily forex rates, ONANDA/XE (and other major forex tables) and Wawasan.
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post Mar 8 2011, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Mar 8 2011, 11:34 AM)
so u are saying otherwise not based on  daily rates but fixed foreign exhange? are u sure? yesterday's rate on sgd same as todays? as u say?
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Read my reply .... I never said based on fixed foreign exchange. Fixed foreign exchange in used for budgetary calculations but for operational use, you need to pay your suppliers/bills/invoices based on daily forex rates. (For companies who has forex exposures)

I used the term daily forex rates.
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post Mar 8 2011, 02:58 PM

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Well ... it took me slightly longer than a month to finally get my MBB2 cards myself. At least I got the newer card design and they expedited the card embossing process.

On the last lap ... Poslaju messed up the delivery I think and I ended having to run over to the Poslaju office because I want my card badly!
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post Mar 8 2011, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 8 2011, 12:37 PM)
Not this fan, I agree to most of the contents posted by you which are direct and factual.
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Thank you Gen-X. Yup ... you are right. I choose to be direct rather than beating around the bush.
I used to be absolutely crazy about credit cards like yourself but I got to take off my hat to you for taking the time to write all these information.
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post Mar 8 2011, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 8 2011, 03:31 PM)
Newer card design ? Do you mean your MBB2 AMEX has the word Platinum printed on it ?
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Yup. I like the magnetic strip design at the back as well. Kindof unique with the hologram.
My card ends with an 8 - makes me happy!

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post Mar 8 2011, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 8 2011, 03:52 PM)
thank you. next time I want to book any hotel I better seek your advise first  notworthy.gif
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Actually my savings for the hotel room came as I saw the room price fluctuates by nearly RM200 over the last 48 hours!
Thank god for the internet. They save your money!
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post Mar 9 2011, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(milentechie @ Mar 9 2011, 07:26 AM)
I did ask MB and Citi for temporary CL increase before but failed to get the increase for my Citi card.

The CS told me my CL is already hit the limit for the type of card that I am holding. I can't accept it and wrote a complaint to the bank. Got a response saying that they will investigate the matter. Until now, more than 6 months, still no reply from them.

MB is more straightforward. Got the increase that I wanted without hassle.

Is it possible for Classic card to be given a permanent CL of a Gold card?
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What Gen-X and Chemistry said is true ... temporary CL increase are subjected to the discretion of the bank.
I would not be discriminating your intentions to upgrade your CL from Classic card to Gold card but I hope you (and the readers here) understand the risks of high CL. If your income/monthly payments is unable to support that CL then better don't ask for it. We have seen many coming in here with high cc debts and they rant whereas the true fault lies in the card holder to begin with. Let's put it this way ... if you are deservingly entitled to it, the bank would have no qualms in giving whatever card type/CL that you deserves. (They might even beg you if you qualify for Platinum but you only want a Classic card limit!) If you don't deserve it then all the banks will snub you.

Generally all banks practice some form of CL cap for each of their cards types. I doubt so anyone here can provide a comprehensive info on this as this is privileged information and Gen-X has mentioned examples such as RHB Classic card max CL is RM8K and another example is Citibank Platinum max CL is RM450K.

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post Mar 9 2011, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 9 2011, 01:41 PM)
Hye, after you  brows.gif
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Hahaha .... that's a good one.
Anyway I can see the regular folks here are "encouraging" visitors of this thread the use of search instead of coming in here and asking the question. I believe the frequent contributors (e.g. Gen-X and many others) acquire their cc information by not asking around but instead researching and experiencing it themselves. While there's a belief that one can come in here .... ask a question and you'll be given "shared knowledge" but that's quite one way rite?

Pity Gen-X for having to answer the question so many times and finally he writes them up in a blog! (I still admire that effort .... I read the blog too)

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post Mar 10 2011, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(spitzupipu @ Mar 10 2011, 02:25 PM)
working in singapore. singapore is not like malaysia when applying cc.
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You can be more straight forward and say you don't exactly qualify to apply cc in Singapore.
They have a higher entry qualifier for foreigners and it is the same case for foreigners working here in Malaysia. Don't give incorrect/incomplete information ... there might be people who know and will catch you. And like bro @MilesAndMore mentioned, even if you qualify, the CL will be based on your SG income. Apply a Malaysian cc and there's a hope of better benefits. Yes .... we knew your intention already.

What is told to you is correct. Have a local card to save on conversion rates. Plus using the local card give you access to local promotions (SG) where it is not available for MY/foreign cc.

Still, you can easily apply for debit card in Singapore.

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post Mar 10 2011, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(milentechie @ Mar 10 2011, 03:04 PM)
Cool down bro. I think what Hye meant is if you are asking us to give advise, you should at least tell us the full story. Only then we can advise you properly and accurately.
No ill feeling here.
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post Mar 10 2011, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(tzeling @ Mar 10 2011, 03:42 PM)
am wondering how come there is this promo whereby HSBC staff called me up for free 1 yr annual waiver and even FREE GST for HSBC Gold Master? (for new application) but this promo is not shown online and the CS also don't really knw about it
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Banks will generally not publish certain promotions online coz there have been many cases where another competing bank will complain to BNM just because another bank is having this xXx promo. (Especially when it comes to free GST because it has happened before where UOB was strongly "advised" by BNM when they publicly published their promo online.) We have talked about this before in the previous version of this thread and this news has once came out online local papers and in the papers (in print).

Not to get wrong by thinking I'm a nasty person ... but really .... have you search via Google or make any effort at all since you looked for the promo online ? The answers will be there.

Just keep in mind that promos will need to come in black and white and in this case HSBC will need to send you the promo details including the cc application form. HSBC CS and HSBC marketing staff are not integrated thus if you ask the CS they won't know ... and in their first place they are supposed to support cc customers and not do sales.

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post Mar 10 2011, 04:37 PM

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On another hand .... I can't help it if someone is very immature about things.
Just let the guy be ... can't help it if he has a bad temper. I know what I said and the guy thinks it differently. Too bad!

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post Mar 10 2011, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(spitzupipu @ Mar 10 2011, 05:39 PM)
I only said i am working in singapore and the cc application is not as easy as in malaysia. and what did you reply? saying that you have no underlying meaning? whatever, the answer is with you, no need to type here and tell everyone that you did not.
and just so you know, i merely replied that guy and i did not ask for further information including stupid underlying message from you cause there was some nice person already answered me.


Hey .... spitzupipu!!!!
It is up to you to decide on whether there is any underlying translation or not but I don't have to explain myself to some immature hot tempered boy in here. The way you answered demonstrated the level of your maturity ... thank you for proving that on your own to everyone here. biggrin.gif You really are that smart !!

It doesn't matter whether you are able to prove me wrong or not. Your demonstration of your mental capacity is really commendable and I wish you all the best in your career and your life. May you progress well with that attitude of yours. Bless you man!

If you think it is shameful to be honest and forthcoming with information then it is up to you. Really ... how to advise you properly if you did not speak the truth. Advising you wrongly will be irritating right ? You expect people to guess your situation or read your mind online ? If it is that shameful to you then you could PM any of the guys in here. Hey ... you choose to work where ever you want and whatever the challenges are comes with the package. You can't blame people for doing it to you ... you have a choice to walk away. However you choose to stay on to earn a living ... you made your choice and take up whatever people throw at you. Don't raise a tantrum just because you felt victimized ... it is your personal choice. If you deny this then obviously your have yet to mature and face up to realities.

There will be other people who will be reading our posts to your answers. Imagine they took the same approach and got it wrong as well, we're further compounding the problem. I didn't ask anyone to come to my side either. And people answered you after you finally came forward with right info and not before that.

You don't have to read my post. Your choice. All the best and bless ya.

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post Mar 10 2011, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(tzeling @ Mar 10 2011, 11:39 PM)
i see...i didn't notice the post abt this in the prev version tho...actually I didn't do a very detail research...didn't have such time to find out bt it so much...I only see fr app form the 1st yr annual fee is waive but there's no black and white about the GST, HSBC marketing staff firmly tell me that GST will be waived once the card is approved, I ask her why tis promo I didn't see online, she only tell me sth like this is only for new card application blabla...but since she's HSBC staff still okay, if agent then I don't really trust...
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Yup ... you are right.
If you get the call/info directly from HSBC then it should be OK. Still rouge staff may exist. Just make sure everything is in black and white. One example to this practice would be SCB. Promos are not listed but whatever they offer you, it'll likely be written on the piece of paper. Plus, HSBC cc are not known to screw their customers up ... so you should feel safer.

You could write something extra on the application form such as "Please approve my CL to be RMxxK only" etc and you could modify it accordingly. And they should get the message - this lowers (not totally eliminates) the chance of miscommunication/frauds at the point of application.

As much as I remember, HSBC does not outsource their cc application units but instead hire their own staff. But that was a few years back and it may have changed. Emm .... if you do meet an agent ... ask for their business card. That should give you a firm indication whether they are agents or bank staff. Again ... this is only a rule of the thumb ... there are banks who totally outsource their cc marketing. Example SCB via Price Solutions and RHB. (I am not sure)

Either agent or bank staff ... always practice safety when presenting your IC and you may ask for a copy of your application form. These guys will also be careful when you are careful.

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post Mar 10 2011, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(chng5255 @ Mar 10 2011, 11:41 PM)
assuming if one have an existing card (non plat) which is more than 1 year and CL at 10k, can use it to apply plat grade card?
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Depends on what the bank that you are applying for defines the minimum CL for Platinum. (Can varies)
Honestly ... I won't do that if I were you. It is rather laughable your CL is only RM10K for a Plat card ... you definitely want a good reference card the next time you apply for another Platinum. Banks can see your CL ... you may be able to show off to your pals but you can't fool the cc application processing unit.

Plus to likely successfully waiver Plat cards (unless it is free for life types/minimum swipes), you need to spend "Plat" type spending. If you spend like non-plat .... let's be realistic OK ?

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post Mar 11 2011, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Mar 11 2011, 07:21 AM)
I know you are posting merely for discussion but and many greedy people may read your post thinking they be making money and just follow what you say without studying the matter further unlike you. You yourself I believe have been using CC for long time but don't understand how interest is charged.
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There an absolute danger to this post being abused. Many will just jump in without understanding the dangers.

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