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deepyu
post Sep 21 2005, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 21 2005, 05:21 PM)
I used manual mode, maybe my shutter speed is too low.
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than maybe u're rite.actually as u can see ur shot is overexposed..
means too much light entering ur lens. faster speed means shorter time
to gain light. so u can shot the moon surface, not the moon's light.
and do focus on the moon. not the sky.
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post Sep 21 2005, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 21 2005, 04:32 PM)

I am wondering how was the guy able to shoot with so many details. Every of mine shots were all overexposed, wonder if photoshop able to solve overexposed problem...  cry.gif and even my KM Z3 with 12X optical zoom can't be this far...
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Mr.LKM see here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=196633&st=20
FoxtrotZulu's nice moon pics with details. And maybe the easiest way is
to shoot when the moon is not too bright.evening and morning would be best i think. biggrin.gif

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post Sep 21 2005, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 21 2005, 06:40 PM)
Mr.LKM see here
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=196633&st=20
FoxtrotZulu's nice moon pics with details......
Wow, suddenly everybody's posting Moon shots......I'm in heaven!

i don't want to buy dSLR because i scared my pics turn out no good_then everyone say i'm lousy fotographer. If i get no so good camera, i can blame the camera.....hehe.
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post Sep 21 2005, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 21 2005, 09:14 PM)
Wow, suddenly everybody's posting Moon shots......I'm in heaven!

i don't want to buy dSLR because i scared my pics turn out no good_then everyone say i'm lousy fotographer. If i get no so good camera, i can blame the camera.....hehe.
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......faint doh.gif
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post Sep 22 2005, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 21 2005, 09:14 PM)
Wow, suddenly everybody's posting Moon shots......I'm in heaven!

i don't want to buy dSLR because i scared my pics turn out no good_then everyone say i'm lousy fotographer. If i get no so good camera, i can blame the camera.....hehe.
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I just came back from JB for a wedding shots. I notice that the moon in JB is much clearer compare to what I see in KL/PJ. I think it is super hard to get clear shots of moon in KL/PJ... should be air dirty and too much light polution.

Too bad I did not bring tripod there...

By the way, do you guys think cable release is a must for astrophotography? Basically just need confirmation (and excusses) to spend the money. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2005, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 21 2005, 09:14 PM)
Wow, suddenly everybody's posting Moon shots......I'm in heaven!

i don't want to buy dSLR because i scared my pics turn out no good_then everyone say i'm lousy fotographer. If i get no so good camera, i can blame the camera.....hehe.
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biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Hehehe... i don't use dSLR also.. just Pana FZ5..
I've tried shooting the moon when it was full and bright in middle of night
no good doh.gif . The brightness hides the moon surface details.
Also when moon high in the sky above your head, it will look small
but if near horizon, or 20deg or so from horizon, it will look bigger
I don't know much about astronomy, but maybe due to some larger
magnification by earth's atmosphere... correct me if I'm wrong here blush.gif

So this month I tried early morning shots, just after full moon day...
That's why my shot doesn't have the round moon.
This gave me some "details" of the craters, especially near the darkside. biggrin.gif

Thanks for linking, deepyu notworthy.gif

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post Sep 22 2005, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 22 2005, 12:33 AM)
I just came back from JB for a wedding shots. I notice that the moon in JB is much clearer compare to what I see in KL/PJ. I think it is super hard to get clear shots of moon in KL/PJ... should be air dirty and too much light polution.

Too bad I did not bring tripod there...
By the way, do you guys think cable release is a must for astrophotography? Basically just need confirmation (and excusses) to spend the money.  biggrin.gif
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yea..the sky there should be clearer than kl..
Since i have the cable release i take all slow-shutter speed with the
release cable to prevent shake.film SLR so dont have any anti-shake lor.. biggrin.gif
Depend on wat pic u want to take if taking some long exposure astrophoto
dont think that cable release is a must. But if taking moon pics maybe
better if u have one..DLSR maybe no need at all..they got the IS.
err..can be a good excuse arr? biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2005, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 22 2005, 12:33 AM)
....I think it is super hard to get clear shots of moon in KL/PJ... should be air dirty and too much light polution.
Think of all that air polution is going into our lungs....cough, cough. sweat.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 22 2005, 12:33 AM)
By the way, do you guys think cable release is a must for astrophotography? Basically just need confirmation (and excusses) to spend the money.  biggrin.gif
If your fingers itchy to spend then enjoy lah. you should be able to find a use for it somehow. Maybe can use as emergency camera strap?
i think the cable release is a must only if you don't have a mirror lockup function in bulb mode. A bit silly to keep your finger on the shutter button for 30 minutes..... The cable release also may not help if you have a `clunky' mirror though, unless you use the lens cap trick.

I'm still itchy for Casio EX S500 - stop me, someone!
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post Sep 22 2005, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 11:17 AM)

i think the cable release is a must only if you don't have a mirror lockup function in bulb mode. A bit silly to keep your finger on the shutter button for 30 minutes..... The cable release also may not help if you have a `clunky' mirror though, unless you use the lens cap trick.
haha..completely forgot bout tat! yaya u will need it to lock the shutter..
but tot last time u took for 5hrs? u SLR have the shutter lock up function?

QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 11:17 AM)
I'm still itchy for Casio EX S500 - stop me, someone!
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yaya..dont go for EX S500..go for DSLR.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 22 2005, 11:29 AM)
...but tot last time u took for 5hrs? u SLR have the shutter lock up function?
That was not me. It was TheVoIP. see post #135.
I think his Canon got shutter/mirror lock unless he superglued the snap button down.... ohmy.gif

thanks, deepyu, for the support.
but i'm going to need at least 10 good reasons vmad.gif or i'm handing over the cash for that S500 tomorrow afternoon.........

i like the Canon 5D but.........RM13,000.00++? Mr.LKM, i'll join you....faint doh.gif


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post Sep 22 2005, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 01:44 PM)
That was not me. It was TheVoIP. see post #135.
I think his Canon got shutter/mirror lock unless he superglued the snap button down.... ohmy.gif
actually tat question is for TheVoIP..sorry to make u misunderstand.. biggrin.gif
QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 01:44 PM)
thanks, deepyu, for the support.
but i'm going to need at least 10 good reasons vmad.gif or i'm handing over the cash for that S500 tomorrow afternoon.........
i like the Canon 5D but.........RM13,000.00++?  Mr.LKM, i'll join you....faint  doh.gif
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yea..u should buy depends on ur need. no point buying without good
reason rite?..but if u double ur budget can get DLSR olredi wat.dont think about
tat 5d lar.. low-end DSLR can also.. drool.gif biggrin.gif
just joking lar..forget my words arr.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 22 2005, 02:33 PM)
..but if u double ur budget can get DLSR olredi wat.dont think about
tat 5d lar.. low-end DSLR can also.. drool.gif biggrin.gif
Trouble is u ppl spoil me already. Low end dslr maybe not good enough to take good pics. A rotten fotographer like me will need help from highest end camera just to be able to take `reasonable' shots (just like playing pc games with cheat modes).
i think i'll start near the bottom (better for my wallet!) with a compact digicam and get the hang of it and see where it leads to. like TheVoIP said, "since i'm still new to digital....." if he's new, then i'm newer than new.

i sort of like the Casio because of its small size, startup speed, and the mpeg4 movie capture. This means i can finally leave my bulky dinosaur Sony handycam at home. This camera won't really be for astrophotography.....but that won't stop me from pointing it up at the sky and hoping for a miracle. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 03:32 PM)
Trouble is u ppl spoil me already.  Low end dslr maybe not good enough to take good pics. A rotten fotographer like me will need help from highest end camera just to be able to take `reasonable' shots (just like playing pc games with cheat modes).
i think i'll start near the bottom (better for my wallet!) with a compact digicam and get the hang of it and see where it leads to. like TheVoIP said, "since i'm still new to digital....." if he's new, then i'm newer than new.

i sort of like the Casio because of its small size, startup speed, and the mpeg4 movie capture. This means i can finally leave my bulky dinosaur Sony handycam at home. This camera won't really be for astrophotography.....but that won't stop me from pointing it up at the sky and hoping for a miracle. whistling.gif
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Oh man... Go for a telescope lah thumbup.gif I think if you want to just to try digital photography, a "noob" compact camera is suitable for you but if you are serious with digital photography, don't get a noob camera, go to get higher end one or you will regret. Lastly, I summoned you to buy TELESCOPE~~~~


QUOTE(FoxtrotZulu)
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Hehehe... i don't use dSLR also.. just Pana FZ5..
I've tried shooting the moon when it was full and bright in middle of night
no good doh.gif . The brightness hides the moon surface details.
Also when moon high in the sky above your head, it will look small
but if near horizon, or 20deg or so from horizon, it will look bigger
I don't know much about astronomy, but maybe due to some larger
magnification by earth's atmosphere... correct me if I'm wrong here blush.gif

So this month I tried early morning shots, just after full moon day...
That's why my shot doesn't have the round moon.
This gave me some "details" of the craters, especially near the darkside. biggrin.gif

Thanks for linking, deepyu notworthy.gif

The moon looks bigger because it is nearer to us, just that easy, not the magnification of the atmosphere smile.gif Hope my reply can help you.

Hey guys, the one who sells us Meade Telescope is reaching Argentina and going to Chille tomorrow!! thumbup.gif
I got an idea to setup a astronomy website, anybody interested? I will register www.astronomy.com.my for the website if somebody is helping me along. smile.gif

Remember guys, on 2/3 October, we can see Mars with our bare eyes cleary! shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 22 2005, 08:23 PM)
....I think if you want to just to try digital photography, a "noob" compact camera is suitable for you.

i think i'll upgrade to the Casio EX Z750 (60 secs long exposure, 7.1 MP, and full manual override). that's as far as my pocket can stretch right now. dSLR is too far off my budget, even the cheapest one.

QUOTE(Mr.LKM @ Sep 22 2005, 08:23 PM)
Lastly, I summoned you to buy TELESCOPE~~~~
no more money lah........

Thanks for all your advice! Hope to have some lunatic shots this weekend!
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post Sep 23 2005, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 23 2005, 09:51 AM)
i think i'll upgrade to the Casio EX Z750 (60 secs long exposure, 7.1 MP, and full manual  override). that's as far as my pocket can stretch right now. dSLR is too far off my budget, even the cheapest one.
no more money lah........

Thanks for all your advice! Hope to have some lunatic shots this weekend!
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i see u prefer compact digicam so go lar for it..
unless u can accept bit bulky digicam than can recommend u other
better model.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 23 2005, 11:09 AM)
unless u can accept bit bulky digicam than can recommend u other
better model.. biggrin.gif
Which one? blink.gif
Still haven't laid money on the counter yet, so got chance to change my mind.......getting cold feet already.
I sense u ppl disapprove my choice.

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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 22 2005, 10:52 AM)
Since i have the cable release i take all slow-shutter speed with the
release cable to prevent shake.film SLR so dont have any anti-shake lor.. biggrin.gif
Depend on wat pic u want to take if taking some long exposure astrophoto
dont think that cable release is a must. But if taking moon pics maybe
better if u have one..DLSR maybe no need at all..they got the IS.
err..can be a good excuse arr? biggrin.gif
Just tell me getting cable release is a must easier la... biggrin.gif

Anyway, most probably I am getting one la. RM120 is not really much compare to what I had spend. I guess cable release usually will be need with whatever of my shots on my new Manfrotto tripod.

Hope I did not make mistake in getting the 190Pro... Last time (film time) using 055C, no complait about stability. Hope 190Pro can do as good. tongue.gif

When I was testing the tripod at Manfrotto shops, I was wondering how the hell I managed to carry the 055C all the way last time along with my heavy camera bag.... Sometime even can walk about 5~8km. Now I remembered that I has a good friend helping me carrying and watching me shooting pictures... I just call him to thank him... Now no one helping me... must be careful on buying stuff.

QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 11:17 AM)
Think of all that air polution is going into our lungs....cough, cough.  sweat.gif
If your fingers itchy to spend then enjoy lah. you should be able to find a use for it somehow. Maybe can use as emergency camera strap?
i think the cable release is a must only if you don't have a mirror lockup function in bulb mode. A bit silly to keep your finger on the shutter button for 30 minutes..... The cable release also may not help if you have a `clunky' mirror though, unless you use the lens cap trick.
I think my current 10D should have mirror lock in one of its custom functions if I remember well... I thought it is a default feature already...

Will get the cable release when I return to KL. Now in the North with only my 10D (no battery grip, so last 2 fingers dunno put where biggrin.gif ) along with my EF50 f1.4. I think I make mistake of not bringing the charger.... Not sure how long it can last...

QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 22 2005, 11:29 AM)
haha..completely forgot bout tat! yaya u will need it to lock the shutter..
but tot last time u took for 5hrs? u SLR have the shutter lock up function?
yaya..dont go for EX S500..go for DSLR.. laugh.gif
Yup... It has mirror lock etc on EOS A2 (known as EOS 5 in Malaysia). Worst experinces was beaten by flies all over my body... and nearly (I think already) damaged the car engine by driving to the hills. The grasses are taller than my car. I think I had too much guts that time.

Also too much knocks on the bottom of engine I guess. The black oil was leaking after that and beyound repair... so have to change engine for RM800... Old car la... At least can upgrade that time 1.3cc to 1.5cc, not bad also... biggrin.gif

QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 22 2005, 02:33 PM)
actually tat question is for TheVoIP..sorry to make u misunderstand.. biggrin.gif
yea..u should buy depends on ur need. no point buying without good
reason rite?..but if u double ur budget can get DLSR olredi wat.dont think about
tat 5d lar.. low-end DSLR can also.. drool.gif biggrin.gif
just joking lar..forget my words arr.. biggrin.gif
I agree with you. One should always spend on his needs la. No point over spend. I think I make full use of my gears... Initially ignore my 16-35, but recently use it heavily for most of my friends wedding shots. You know most chinese wedding are in crowded places... and even 50mm hard to use... And will need the 16-35 at least until Christmas... f2.8 is really a great things to have...

Only spend on those you need la... You will feel bad if you buy white elephant sitting there. I still have a expensive Hoya Super C-PL that I had bought RM330 in my drying cabinet.

QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 22 2005, 03:32 PM)
Trouble is u ppl spoil me already.  Low end dslr maybe not good enough to take good pics. A rotten fotographer like me will need help from highest end camera just to be able to take `reasonable' shots (just like playing pc games with cheat modes).
i think i'll start near the bottom (better for my wallet!) with a compact digicam and get the hang of it and see where it leads to. like TheVoIP said, "since i'm still new to digital....." if he's new, then i'm newer than new.
I am really new ma... Just bought my first dSLR in April this year...

I am having so much fun with it. Shooting without film and no need worrying about money/cost is really enjoyable. Some more can change ISO on the fly.... You have to go throught film to really appreaciate that...

If remember well, I met some astrophotography assoc people during a the camera festival. And one of them just bought a used 10D at really good price. I think maybe can get used 10D at less than RM3k? That will be great for value for money. biggrin.gif

Even you buy now... You should be 5 months newer than me only la... Same standard la... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: Sep 23 2005, 11:49 AM
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post Sep 23 2005, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 23 2005, 11:19 AM)
Which one?  blink.gif
Still haven't laid money on the counter yet, so got chance to change my mind.......getting cold feet already.
I sense u ppl disapprove my choice.
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no lar..ignore me ok.. biggrin.gif
but maybe u wanna get one with more zoom capability
so u can shoot moon's pics.. whistling.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 23 2005, 11:38 AM)
Just tell me getting cable release is a must easier la...  biggrin.gif
Worst experinces was beaten by flies all over my body... and nearly (I think already) damaged the car engine by driving to the hills. The grasses are taller than my car. I think I had too much guts that time.
yeap..better get one much easier.. biggrin.gif
last time i shot star trail was alone at about 2am..
so not dare to go far from main road and stay inside my car.. sweat.gif
QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 23 2005, 11:38 AM)
And one of them just bought a used 10D at really good price. I think maybe can get used 10D at less than RM3k? That will be great for value for money. biggrin.gif
Even you buy now... You should be 5 months newer than me only la... Same standard la...  biggrin.gif
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atleast u got ur DSLR..i dont even have a digicam..
can only shoot with my dvcam for digital photo.. cry.gif
if can get used DSLR like tat would be nice..
well guess i dont have much choice but to wait cheaper
KM 7D or KM 5D to fall in my hand sweat.gif
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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 23 2005, 12:15 PM)
but maybe u wanna get one with more zoom capability..

Actually I would prefer wider angle than zoom range. But hard to find 28mm equivalent in digital compacts. cry.gif

QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 23 2005, 12:15 PM)
if can get used DSLR like tat would be nice..
well guess i dont have much choice but to wait...

Never mind, I'll wait with you. flex.gif

QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Sep 23 2005, 11:38 AM)
Even you buy now... You should be 5 months newer than me only la... Same standard la... 

u'r kidding, right? I'm like light years behind, man. notworthy.gif




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QUOTE(deepyu @ Sep 23 2005, 12:15 PM)
no lar..ignore me ok.. biggrin.gif
but maybe u wanna get one with more zoom capability
so u can shoot moon's pics.. whistling.gif
yeap..better get one much easier.. biggrin.gif
last time i shot star trail was alone at about 2am..
so not dare to go far from main road and stay inside my car.. sweat.gif

atleast u got ur DSLR..i dont even have a digicam..
can only shoot with my dvcam for digital photo.. cry.gif
if can get used DSLR like tat would be nice..
well guess i dont have much choice but to wait cheaper
KM 7D or KM 5D to fall in my hand sweat.gif
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You are KM fans too?

March, what's the sensor size of ur will-be camera? If it is too small, 60secs exposure= useless because of the noise.

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