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post Apr 5 2011, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(jeffwkh @ Apr 5 2011, 09:58 AM)
i dunno how they calculate. i deposit rm 500 in 2010 and in march 2011 i get the dividen rm12 onli!!! now my acc, is rm 512
maybe this sspn is not a got place to put $$$
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Most probably they calculated based on daily rest. Most financial institution do that nowadays.

So if your tax rate is at say 19% and you saved RM 3,000.00, your net ROI is 19+3.5% = 22.5%.

If you think that is not good, pls shoot yourself with a 0.50 Baretta.

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post Apr 6 2011, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Apr 5 2011, 06:14 PM)
if simpan wif them how to draw the money?

atm can?
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Withdrawal form obtainable from Maybank branch. The processing is still done by PTPTN HQ.

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post Mar 8 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Mar 7 2013, 11:21 PM)
Ah great.. Ay idea what the d.rate is?
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For me it is a ROI of 30.25% for Y2012.

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post Mar 8 2013, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Mar 8 2013, 12:04 PM)
You included the 'tax savings' as part of your ROI calculation?  drool.gif
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LOL, yes of course.

I kena tax'ed at the highest tax bracket... so it is beneficial to me to "plan" my tax.

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post Mar 9 2013, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(poolcarpet @ Mar 8 2013, 01:14 PM)
Ok, I was just thinking about this... most will put in RM3k into SSPN in order to take advantage of the tax relief, and gain up to RM780 in 'instant' returns, correct?

I just quickly created an excel with simple calculation,

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and let's assume we only look at 1 year investment return (because year 2-year n is just a repeat of this year 1 investment),
RM3k put in SSPN and RM3k-RM780=RM2220 put in another investment.

Over 17 years, if I can get consistently 2% higher return rate than SSPN dividend, I actually end up with MORE money at the end!

Is my calculation correct or am I missing something here? Anyone understand what I'm trying to say here?
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First I use Excel to do the calculation.

I pull it for 17 years.

Under column 1: I put in a figure of RM 4,400.00 i.e., RM 6,000.00 less 26%. This means your actual capital is RM 6000.00 - less 26% = RM 4,400.00

Under column 2: I put in a figure of RM 6,000.00 because this is the actual amount put into SSPN every year for the next 17 years consistently.

Under column 3: I key in the formula =Column 2 x 1.04 because I assume SSPN will give a dividend of 4% consistently throughout the whole 17 year tenure.

I repeat the process until I get 17 rows i.e., 17 payment periods.

What I get essentially is:

i) PV = 0 since I start accumulating from zero value

ii) FV = RM 147,872.48 i.e., the total accumulated future value inc dividend reinvested.

iii) N = 17 i.e., 17 years tenure.

iv) PMT = RM 4,440.00 i.e. the actual capital outlay per period of time

v) Mode = End, since the dividend is paid at the end of the period.

From all the 5 parameters above I am able to calculate I, i.e. the Internal Rate of return for this series of investment using a financial calculator.

And from my calculator, the IRR (I) = 7.85% p.a.

Taking into a/c the tax savings, this SSPN saving vehicle is able to give a return of 7.85%p.a.

Can you compare SSPN rtn with an equity unit trust rtn in a direct way? The answer is no.

Because another component we have to take into a/c is Risk adjusted return.

For SSPN, I'll say its volatility or standard deviation from mean (the measurable parameter for riskiness) is very similar to money market fund i.e., around 0.1%

For an efficient unit trust, the usual standard deviation from mean is around 8% and a typical long term rtn is around 10% p.a.

So, let's compare the risk adjusted return of SSPN vs a efficient equity unit trust.

SSPN = (7.85 - risk free rate)/standard deviation = (7.85 - 3.1)/0.1 = 47.5 where the risk free rate I take is the current retail 12Mth FD rate

Unit Trust = (10 - 3.1)/8 = 0.8625

So if that is the case, does that mean we should dump everything into SSPN?

The answer is no, because SSPN tax benefit stops at RM 6,000.00 p.a. So it is not enough to accumulate for a child education.

However, SSPN plays a volatility reducing role in your overall portfolio for your child education.

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post Feb 22 2014, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(tbheng @ Feb 20 2014, 11:03 AM)
Hi Xuzen,
While calculating the roi, I came across your formula in this post. Thanks for the tips.  notworthy.gif
I have worked out the spreadsheet as attached.
In fact I am able to work out the 7.85% by using the Excel function @RATE.
i.e. RATE(17,-4440,0,147872.48,0) = 7.85%

I normally use this function for Annualized ROI calculation for my investment.
RATE((TODAY-InvestmentDate)/365,0,-OneTimeInvestmentAmount,CurrentBalance,0)
E.g. says I withdraw RM100,000 from EPF for UT investment 10 years ago, and it is double by today.
Hence, Annualized Returns for the past 10 years = RATE(10,0,-100000,200000,0) = 7.18% p.a. (compounded).
Am I correct?  (sorry, I am no financial person) notworthy.gif
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I am not clever with excel formula.

Sorry.

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post Mar 6 2014, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(lalachong @ Mar 6 2014, 05:43 PM)
anyone got dividends yet?
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Just checked at i-SSPN website and NOPE... belum dapat.

Looking at 2013, the dividend was credited into the statement somewhere between late Mar to early April, usually 6 weeks after EPF's.

BTW, SSPN's dividend declaration do not have the same fan-fare as its more famous counterpart (EPF). It is usually a very low-key affair.

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post Apr 24 2014, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(lalachong @ Apr 24 2014, 03:13 PM)
got the dividend d. not sure percentage though...

back calculated to be 4.25%. not bad...  rolleyes.gif
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I also have just checked the e-sspn website and I concur that the 2013 dividend has been credited into my account.

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post Apr 6 2015, 01:44 PM

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1) Let's say I deposit RM 5,755.00 on 1/1/2014.

2) 2014 Dividend @ 4.25% p.a.= RM 5,755.00 x 1.0425 = RM 6,000.00

3) My tax relief is RM 5,775.00 or RM 6,000.00 for YA2014?

Thank you for you attention.

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post Apr 6 2015, 03:40 PM

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Assume deposited RM 140,000 get RM 6,000.00 dividend on top of that get RM1,560.00 tax relief, total = RM 7560.00 = 5.4%.

OK lar... so so nia.

Just like FD.

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post Dec 1 2015, 11:32 AM

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I call up the SSPN hotline and asked them whether can set up a standing instruction using credit-card facilities or not.

She answered as of this moment they do not have S.I. facilities.

However, to my mind, this S.I. thingy is just a matter of time.

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post Jan 12 2016, 11:06 AM

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For those at high income tax bracket of 24%; RM 6,000.00 x 24% = RM 1,440.00 tax savings.

SSPN gave out 4.5% dividend: RM 6,000.00 x 4.5% = RM 270.00

RM 6,000 - 1,440.00 = RM 4,560.00 actual capital invested. Future value is RM 6,000 + 270 = 6,270.00

Hence profit per annum = (6270 -4560) / 4560 x 100 = 37.5% gain. Apa lagi lu mau? drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 27 2016, 04:54 PM)
After EPF announced Dividend last week, now awaiting gud news from PTPTN
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Historically is somewhere mid to end of April every year and the return is 4.25%. Nothing great. We are mainly using it for fhe tax relief.

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QUOTE(fairyboy @ Feb 28 2016, 04:22 AM)
So actually does we get the tax relief if we open the spss account for ourselves? Sorry to ask again due to i saw it from the spss official website, there wrote:  Individu yang menyimpan untuk diri sendiri tidak diberi pelepasan taksiran cukai.

So still confusing whether we get tax relief or not if the account is opened by ourselves and not by parent.
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Which part of this sentence do you not understand? Are you a Malaysian or a foreign citizen? To me that sentence is crystal clear!

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post Mar 28 2016, 05:25 PM

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Our good friend WMK asked LHDN about this and LHDN says will follow whatever is printed on SSPN document brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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post Apr 15 2016, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 15 2016, 09:03 AM)
Still awaiting Dividend for 2015...
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Unlike EPF which announce their dividend at press conference thereafter unwittingly invite loads of politician who will then politicize the whole issue; SSPN dividend is a very much subdue affair. They will quietly declare it in the month of Apr @ 4.25% thereabout. Check your statement on or after 30/4/2016, it will be there.

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QUOTE(giko @ May 8 2016, 02:13 PM)
looks like on a downslide... 2014's rate was 4.25%  ohmy.gif
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The main attractiveness of SSPN is the tax relief. The 4% is just the icing on the cake. So, for me, a 25bps drop is not an big issue.

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post Dec 2 2016, 12:19 PM

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I still have RM 1,500.00 quota left....sedang tunggu year end bonus.

I usually do online transfer.

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 21 2016, 06:53 PM)
i thought i have missed the promotion free gift for 2016 top up so late into year end.

deposited  RM6000 at PTPTN seberang jaya branch,(look for that nice guy Hafizi) still got goodies,  umbrella, coin box, tupper ware and tumbler, and a hamper. currently out of stock, told me to collect hamper on Saturday at Mydin Mall where there will be promotional fare.

Forgot to ask the PTPTN guy just now.. may be you guys know can help.

Say my son already have sspn-i account with me and i claim max RM6000 tax purpose. Can my wife open another sspn i account with that same son and she deposit another 6k to claim tax for her own?

that will mean that kid will have  2 sspn-i accounts one with dad and another with mom? is it allowed?

thanks for any feedback.
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Can. Have been doing that since my kid was one year old until now. But srly, I would prefer them to keep those freebies and pay me higher dividend. All these freebies end up as junk in my house.

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post Dec 30 2016, 02:15 PM

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Maxed out my SSPN quota for 2016. Now I await my to do tax return in Apr 2017 in which to get my tax relief.

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