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 Kiara Residence Phase 2, Bukit Jalil or OUG New Development

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puchongite
post Nov 10 2011, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Nov 10 2011, 09:25 AM)
To my understanding the main con for this project is formerly attached to Sime Property and this will consist of it's very first project under it's own name. Due to some permit issue, heard that they may postpone the project until next year before decide should they proceed with the plan.
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If they have permit issue that will affect KR1 too. Is that right ?


Added on November 10, 2011, 3:03 pm
QUOTE(puchongite @ Nov 10 2011, 10:44 AM)
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With one of the nearby condo heavily infested by termites, any of these condos ( KR, Z, RAINZ etc ) taking special measures to stop the invasion of termites ?

You know every house will have enough wooden furnishing, and you don't want your beautiful and sweet home requires spraying of termite chemicals everywhere and turning it into a poisonous house right ? cry.gif

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post Dec 5 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 5 2011, 12:25 PM)
Ok, just noted that there will be RM15,000 undertable needed by the agent or so-called insider arrangement. As such, would like to propose we boycott or banned this project to avoid feeding such greedy agents.
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Do you think you could succeed with such a call for boycott ? The insider job system was there in KR1 and nothing has happened to the agents and the insiders, all of them pocketed the money and laughing all the way to the bank.
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post Dec 5 2011, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 5 2011, 12:46 PM)
With such current economic situations where developers are started to giving freebies and more discounts to attract buyers, only fools will be paying undertable to get a unit there. I think lesson must be given to these unscrupulous agents or the sales person. No doubts the rebate of 7% will be given for first 100 buyers but these agents are trying to earned large chunks of these discounts which is suppose to be given to purchasers. Looking at the Kiara 1 records of delaying the construction job, I can see same thing is going to happened for this one too.

Good luck guys, I'm moving on to others.
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:35 PM

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After looking at the model of the building, I noticed that in term of road access, KR2 is not really much better than the rest. Because there will not be a road access to Jalan 1/155b (bukit jalil to kesas). The main gate of KR2 is going to open towards jalan 3/155, and that is the same road which Bukit OUG, KR1, Rainz, ZR people are going to use.

Sorry if I gave you the impression that the car road access is better than the rest, I retract that. The car road accessibility is almost the same as Bukit OUG.
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Dec 5 2011, 02:50 PM)
S&P has been signed. Received a copy of it already. in fact received it almost 2 months back.


Added on December 5, 2011, 2:50 pmi meant for KR1
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No intention to spoil the good name of the developer. How come these posters in this threads haven't received their stamped S&P :-

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=46194440
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post Dec 5 2011, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Dec 5 2011, 04:10 PM)
I'll double check on the exact date i received the stamped copy of my S&P tonight smile.gif

Not sure why some haven't received their stamped S&P but i'm pretty sure that if i received mine, all the other buyers would have already received their stamped copy since i haven't actually been chasing them.
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Are you one of those who have "jalan" when you purchased KR1 or you followed the usual registration process ? You may skip this question if you don't want to answer. smile.gif
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post Dec 6 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Dec 6 2011, 10:31 AM)
i got a unit because the buyer couldnt get his loan approved. so i was there at the right time. didn't have to pay under-table money whatsoever and i had a good experience with the agent.
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Thanks for giving us this first hand information. I am happy for you.

Another thing of interest to me is that do you know if THIS developer forfeits the initial deposit if the loan could not be approved ?

I think this is where people could abuse the system. Imagine a middle man overbooked 10-20 units and later claimed that his loan could not be approved and in the mean time seeks under-table money from other potential buyers .....

Regards.

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post Dec 7 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Dec 7 2011, 01:52 PM)
Kiara 2 is around RM440/sq ft after 7% discount based on the leaked price sheet. And asking for 15k undertable just doesnt make sense as there are 720 units available up for grabs and Z residence is available around 400k per sq feet(freehold).

I would only consider kiara 2 below 400/sq ft as it is leasehold else z residence will be a better buy.
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And the other factor is the developer's image.

Appears to be clouded with delays in S&P, slow projects progress, rampant under table money practices, first time doing high-rise etc. Any ways these are just suspicions.

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post Dec 7 2011, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(darthvest @ Dec 7 2011, 05:05 PM)
I just drove passed the site and saw a building coming up. Looks like a Community Hall or could it be a mosque?
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It's a Community Hall. The signboard says.
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post Dec 8 2011, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(grifterfmj @ Dec 7 2011, 11:22 PM)
From what I got it the deal was this, you pay 10% first to secure unit before  pre-launch and priority pick, then when pre-launch they will rebate back 7% to you.

I also think its damn !&@#& just open for launch ppl queue and book la. This is what happens when too many people register interest I think. Was actually looking forward to purchase a unit here but have since turned else where
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If there are so many people register interest, it's the developers duty to manage the process in a fair manner.

The "queue" method is terrible, I object to it. People hire others to queue at the office nights and days, some even weeks for it. Some people cut queue by paying the people queuing there; so just when you think you hired someone to queue for you, you never know this person gets a bigger money from someone else to cut queue.

Pay 10% to secure unit before pre-launch and priority pick - not sure what is that exactly. Might not be effective after all.

I am not sure if the developer could enforce forfeiting of booking fees if loans not approved ( especially those people who booked multiple units ) and make names non-transferable. I would say these two measures are effective in reducing "middle-men".


Added on December 8, 2011, 7:38 am
QUOTE(terrywoo @ Dec 7 2011, 11:33 PM)
thing might change after this weekend.

Dunno Europe can pass thru this weekend not.
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If Europe cannot pull through the debt crisis, the market will head for a crash. Time for "economic correction" ! The market needs this from time to time. smile.gif

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post Dec 8 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(darthvest @ Dec 8 2011, 11:34 AM)
Yeah i believe correction is on the way, heard many "experts" said 1H 2012 will be hard knock but recovery is quite fast with reasonable growth in 2H 2012... rclxm9.gif
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Recover so fast ? Then I strongly "encourage" it to go for a correction, healthier after that. The market is mad now, and the thing is, it is unstoppable .... Only a crash is able to correct it !



Added on December 8, 2011, 12:24 pm
QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Dec 7 2011, 07:14 PM)
Just receive another call from a so called agent offering 10k undertable for securing a unit. Seems like they are desperate huh??
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If only the developer's higher management could only hear our voices, they just have to implement 2 simple measures :-

1. Booked names not transferable.
2. Forfeit booking fees if loan got rejected.

It will put an end to all the fat hopes of these blood suckers.


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post Dec 8 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(S300 @ Dec 8 2011, 01:15 PM)
dear all,

I am one of the registrant that registered a unit directly from WCT Realtors. as far as I am concern the developer (kiara resources sdn. bhd.) did not request any under table money from purchasers. currently the developer has not launch the project (KIara Residence 2). So no sales is allowed. so don't trust those people that is heartless that try to con our money.
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You got the truth, but the partial truth. From what I see, it does not appear that developer company and the agent company receive under table money, however, it does not rule out that individuals from the companies accept under table money.

Firstly, we are not sure how the developer allocates units to "internal people", and secondly we don't know if these units are convertable to an external sales and so on and so forth.

I have already received information that a big chunk of KR2 has already been blocked by internal people. I don't believe the internal staffs are rich enough to indeed purchase them under their personal names, as this is already the second project.

We only call for a clean and fair booking process.

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post Dec 8 2011, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(S300 @ Dec 8 2011, 03:14 PM)
Bro you are right. we only call for clean and fair booking processes.
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And to accomplish that, the developer must facilitate by :-

1. Make bookings non-transferable. If it is employee purchase, S&P must carry the employees name.
2. Forfeit booking fees if loans are not approved.

If the developer is not doing the above, the developer's sincerity is questionable, the developer is assisting the foul play.

This is where we distinguish credible developers from not-so-credible developers.

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post Dec 8 2011, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(JustNobody @ Dec 8 2011, 04:36 PM)
Usually it is not transferable one. But some developer just make that happen only.. The worst I saw is OUG Parkland... like pasar malam... tongue.gif
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That means OUG Parkland is not credible. 我鄙视它! rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 16 2011, 04:28 PM

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Sorry not a Iphone user. smile.gif

But about the launch, someone mentioned in another thread, it will be Jan. Is that right ? Or someone has already bought under-table units ?
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post Dec 21 2011, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 21 2011, 11:35 AM)
Imagine where all these projects completed (ZR, Rainz, KR1, KR2) completed and thousands of these units sharing the same access in and out.
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This is the biggest problem. Initially I thought KR2 could access bukit jalil directly, that will give it advantage, but the model provided by the developer showed that the road access is the same as Bukit OUG.
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post Dec 21 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(darthvest @ Dec 21 2011, 12:21 PM)
Yes, earlier i thought so. Now it seems like KR2 will have only one exit, that is onto the same road as Bukit OUG's (Jln 3/155). In fact the exit will be after the community hall, which sits right in front of Bukit OUG entrance. This will make the walking to LRT station way too far.
Also, i wonder how are they going to build the access road from Z, Rainz and KR1 to 3/155? If only a normal T-junction, then the queue will be right in front of KR2 entrance.
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Exactly, you have gone into the details which I thought about too. I am afraid it's going to be a normal T-junction. Since Jalan 3/155 is on the higher ground, this road which joins jalan 3/155 will also be at about the same height, so those condos will have the parking at the lower levels, and cars will spirally drive up to the higher level to join jalan 3/155.

And yes, there will be queue right at the T-junction. There will queue at jalan 4/155 extension into bukit jalil, there will be queue at jalan 1/155b. There will be queue at Kesas. Everywhere ! rclxub.gif
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post Dec 21 2011, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(darthvest @ Dec 21 2011, 12:54 PM)
Haha...like that really pening lor. Not to mention those Bukit OUG/KR2 residents parking both sides of the road, making the road even narrower and hard to manouver.
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It will be wise for ZR, RAINZ, KR1 and KR2 to quickly revise the plan to make 3 car parks for each unit. Bonus to all the buyers. Set a precedence to Malaysian condo history.

Bukit OUG is already built, nothing can be done. cry.gif
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post Dec 22 2011, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Dec 22 2011, 02:10 PM)
Since you mentioned there is an extension at jalan 4/155, isnt this extension connected to jalan 1/155b? So kiara2 should be able to exit bj directly. Could you please let us know where is the entrance for kiara 2 located??
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KR2 exit is the same as bukit OUG, into Jalan 3/155, on different side of the road.

Yes KR2 is able to exit to bj, but I don't call it "directly". "Directly" to me it means KR2 use the park-and-ride land/road to enter Jalan 1/155b. It's a matter of different terminology. Hope we can be in sync.

Cheers.
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post Dec 24 2011, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(pinkdevil88 @ Dec 22 2011, 02:41 PM)
Thanks for the clarification. There is another exit from the west of jalan 4/155 to kesas. Wonder if any condo using that exit, might ease some traffic.


Are you saying there is another exit or there will be another exit from the west of jalan 4/155 to kesas ?

I am not aware of that though.

As far as I know the west of jalan 4/155 is going to be connected to bukit jalil highway ( is already today connected but it will be made a proper road ).

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